League of Legends by far has the most toxic community I’ve ever encountered. I left in the middle of a match due to toxic players and got a temp ban. Never went back.
I was on System 76 for two laptops. The most recent one, a Lemur, started to fall apart: the plastic hinge just started coming off in chunks, and the clamshell began to split. Customer service was terrible: they tried to get me to agree to charges without explaining what they were going to charge me for. When I pressed them (which took repeated emails) they finally admitted they wanted to send me a part for me to do a replacement without any instructions, and which they advised people not to do. Very scammy vibes. I picked up a Framework instead and have been really enjoying it, though I can’t really speak to the gaming portion I’m afraid. I’d just say avoid System 76.
I haven’t used any Framework systems, so I can’t really give a proper comparison. I have owned two S76 laptops, a now-ancient Lemur Pro I bought back in 2017, and just recently, a Pangolin I just picked up a few weeks ago. I haven’t really had a chance to put the Pangolin through its paces, but it does have AMD-based 3-d acceleration built in. The old Lemur (and the new lemurs) only have basic Intel graphics.
I was able to use my old Lemur for some very light gaming. I think last time I was traveling, I was able to play Football Manager and Fallout Shelter quite successfully, but Lord of the Rings Online was just a bit beyond its capabilities. I would assume that Skyrim would definitely be beyond the Lemur’s reach.
It looks like the F13 does have some amount of built-in 3d acceleration, so just looking at specs I would expect it to do better than the Lemur. Lemur’s got a slightly larger display, but neither are very big. The rest of the specs look like they can vary quite broadly depending on your order so that makes the rest a bit hard to compare fairly.
Like I said, I’ve never even seen a Framework laptop in person, so I can’t give a hands-on comparison. I can say that I’ve been very pleased with my experience with System 76. If you’re looking at S76, consider the Pangolin. It’s only a little bit larger than the Lemur, the price is pretty close, and it comes with more capabilities.
edit-to-add: Whatever you pick, I hope you will come back and tell us how it turned out.
You sound like me lol. I had a lemur first snd upgraded to a pangolin a few years ago. I do a lot of gaming on my pangolin, but mostly indie games. Per Aspera, parkitect, firewatch, stuff like that. It will play Valheim but it’s a little choppy on low.
I expect the latest version of the pangolin would run better. Not only is it a much improved APU, it looks like it has vastly improved cooling.
A childhood friend of mine worked as a developer for Riot Games over a decade ago, when League of Legends first became popular. He tried to get me to play it with him, but the community was so toxic, it’s the first and only game I ever quit solely because of the community.
If you didn’t play specific characters with very specific builds, you were just wasting everyone’s time and any losses would be blamed on you. It was really bad.
I love the content and lore that comes from LoL (Arcane, K/DA, etc.), but I can’t stand the game itself.
Yeah what I never got was how did they find new perfect builds if you were not allowed to play the game freely to try new things. I mean I known the answer it was data mining but at that point is it a game or a job and you are just going through the motions. What ever happened to GG and you in something you lose some but we all had fun.
You’re not alone, my 2060 brother. As my build gets further into it’s twilight years I stick almost exclusively to smaller indie titles.
I bought my wife that Harry Potter game a while back and I don’t even want to try it. Even on potato mode it’s like 20fps in outdoor maps. She doesn’t seem to mind the shitty frames, thankfully.
Starfield was maybe one of the last ”modern games” I could run. 1080p and 30fps locked because It couldn’t handle steady 40fps. I havent bought any games made in 2024 or 2025. I mostly just buy older games that are now available -90% or something. My latest purchase was a remaster ed. for a 20 year old game which price was now all time low.
I haven’t tried starfield yet, but it looks interesting and I suspect I could run it at lower settings since I’m pretty sure it runs a modified Skyrim engine and Skyrim runs just fine.
Totally with you on older games on high discount. I picked up Metal Gear Rising Revengence for super cheap last year and that game is almost a decade old. I think the older rig has really helped maintain discipline to wait out the hype till games are older and I can enjoy them at a much lower cost.
Previous System76 owner here - Switched to Framework for my second laptop. Yes, System76 contributes upstream to Linux, but Framework is just better. My System76 needed a fan replaced and it was lowkey annoying - Paid over 150$ to have it done; such an upgrade is much easier on the Framework (not to mention the customization lets you get exactly what you need and pay for nothing more)
Same tbh. Framework just works. And they do contribute back, just perhaps not as much specifically to Linux. Open source hardware is so incredibly valuable and important and rare. Honestly, if I had to choose only based on how much is contributed back, I’d still pick Framework.
Yeah, I don’t expect to play a lot of things but 99% of the time I’m playing some 2D indie game. Everyone once in a blue moon I like to replay the TES series
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