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Grangle1, do games w I would like to enjoy Zelda BOTW but …

BotW and TotK are a very different type of game from OoT. As others have pointed out, there are a lot of environmental mechanics to learn as well as how to find and use different types of weapons due to weapon durability. It’s a much more open ended game than OoT where exploration is much more of a focus, whereas OoT is more story focused and has a more specific order to do things (which isn’t 100% set in stone, as the whole Spirit vs Shadow Temple debate proves) that’s still more straightforward than the newer games. I like both types of games, especially for both OoT and BotW/TotK being gaming masterpieces for their time, and the three of them are my top 3 Zelda games for sure. But if you don’t like one or more of them that’s perfectly fine. Not every game will appeal to everyone.

leggettc18,

Fun fact, Spirit and Shadow aren’t the only temples in that game you can do out of order. You can do the Fire Temple first, as there is only one chest that requires arrows and it doesn’t have anything crazy important in it. Water Temple can also be cleared without arrows, but you do have to get a bit more creative with some non-intuitive jumps and either saving and resetting or using a warp song to go back to the dungeon entrance without raising the water level in order to do that. Spirit Temple does require arrows but nothing else from the other dungeons is required so you could do it as early as your second dungeon. Even then I think you can abuse invincibility frames to skip an eye switch and I can’t remember anything else that required arrows in there. Shadow Temple is the most restrictive, but only because you have to clear Forest, Fire, and Water in order to gain access to it. Once you’re actually in the dungeon you’ll find that arrows are the only item from the other dungeons you actually have to use to beat it.

RightHandOfIkaros, do gaming w What is the most terrifying RTS game unit to be up against?

It depends. AoE2 Organ Guns, in a group of at least 10, will obliterate basically everything in their path, but alone theyre not too menacing to anything other than vils.

Any Scrin unit from C&C Tiberium Wars, because that faction was overpowered.

ryathal, do gaming w What is the most terrifying RTS game unit to be up against?

Something in 40k universe probably. Tyranid or demon units would probably be my top choice for worst. Necrons are literal terminators too.

secondaccountlemmy, do games w I would like to enjoy Zelda BOTW but …

The exploration and physics IS the game. You kinda do the objectives along the way.

It really helps that you follow the road though and turning off the UI. I dont think this is for you though of you got frustrated by the weather. The old man teaches you to cook and make a fire.

Vode_An, do gaming w What is the most terrifying RTS game unit to be up against?

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kinther, do games w I would like to enjoy Zelda BOTW but …
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A few tips for you:

Cook food. Lots of it. You can sell cooked food (especially meats e.g. rare meats) for crazy amounts of rupees. Use rupees to buy cold weather clothing from the various towns in game, then use that whenever you feel cold (same goes for hot weather, you’ll need hot weather clothes).

Don’t try to go way off into the mountains right to start. Find the shrines close to you, mark them on your map, and go there. Do the same for towns. You can then fast travel via the map around the game world, making things way easier.

Finally, when it comes to weapons, you really can’t get attached to any of them. The Master Sword is the only one that doesn’t break, but it will lose energy and take time to recharge before it can be used again. It’s just part of the game mechanics. While annoying, it does force you to plan out your attacks and consider your resource usage.

IWantToFuckSpez, (edited ) do games w I would like to enjoy Zelda BOTW but …

While I find it a shame that modern Zelda games have left the formula behind, I do believe the old Zelda formula has gotten stale and that the franchise was ready for an overhaul. Before BotW the main line console games in the series have pretty much the same progression mechanics since LttP, the only exception is Majora’s Mask. Twilight Princess and Skyward sword were boring for me because they were way too predictable. I do like the openness of the new Zelda games but I get what your saying the games feel too much like a playground instead of an immersive fantasy game.

Kolanaki,
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They went back to square one. BOTW and TOTK have more in common with the first 3 games than the last 3 games that came before BOTW.

caut_R, do games w I would like to enjoy Zelda BOTW but …

The weapon breaking is annoying, even in TotK still. It‘d be more bearable if you could at least repair broken stuff at a blacksmith or something, but as it is, I’m scared to lose my cool stuff to a buncha gremlins. So I‘m hoarding the good stuff and cope with poor throw-away weapons…

It‘s a bit like the „elixiers“ situation in old FF games: Game‘s over and you have 22 unused elixiers you saved for when you really need them.

AndreyAsimow,

There are some special weapons that you got from story quests that are repairable. Even rusty weapons can be repaired.

blazera, do games w I would like to enjoy Zelda BOTW but …
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Pretty sure they put a bunch of hot pepper plants around the entrances to that region as the hint.

MelodiousFunk,
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Not only that, but the item description tells you that cooking them has a cold resistant effect. The old man also gives a way to combat the temps.

ZephyrXero, do games w I would like to enjoy Zelda BOTW but …

I bought BotW right when it came out and I’m still not all that much further than you. I’ve come back to it multiple times, but just can’t get into it. I had trouble with the freezing area too. Took me an hour before I finally stumbled across a solution. I’ve gotten a bit further than you, and it just keeps getting more and more over complicated as you go.

I just don’t think the game is fun, personally. But I also don’t think Skyrim is fun. I’m not really into most open world games. I wish they would make us a new one more in the style of Ocarina and Twilight Princess, but it seems like we’re in the minority

Kolanaki, (edited ) do games w I would like to enjoy Zelda BOTW but …
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I never got into BOTW, either. But TOTK is so much better in every way, I got into that just fine.

BOTW is just so bare-bones and not engaging enough.

Carnelian, do games w I would like to enjoy Zelda BOTW but …

The weapons breaking and stuff is whatever, eventually you just tune it out. They shower you with new stuff constantly, so the idea is to use a little of everything. No comment on whether that’s a good or bad thing, it’s probably the most divisive part of the game. Just is what it is.

You do get permanent loot in the form of clothing (which can have interesting special properties) and powers and such

TallonMetroid,
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Really wish they’d exempted the Master Sword from the durability mechanic, especially given how much effort it takes before you can even get it (I think it’s something like ~80/120 shrines or else it kills you?) and how not OP it is in actual practice.

Carnelian,

Well, it kind of is, but in a roundabout way.

It doubles in strength and I think is unbreakable inside the final dungeon and possibly against guardians as well. Can tell for sure because it starts glowing

PlantDadManGuy, do games w I would like to enjoy Zelda BOTW but …

Sounds like you’re still at the Great plateau which is just the tutorial area of the game basically. You can watch a few videos on YouTube to find the easy way to get past it. The weapon breaking mechanic is really annoying at first but eventually you’ll realize that they did it so that you can enjoy all the variety of weapons in the game without having a hundred things in your stash. Exploration is one of the most enjoyable parts of this game so try to look around for the old man and he will help you.

alvvayson,

This. I also remember being overwhelmed at the Great plateau, but I’m hindsight, it’s just a simple tutorial…

It just kind of sucks because there isn’t really any guidance. The key is to talk to the old man and read the book in his hut.

At the risk of almost spoiling it… they are trying to teach you the cooking mechanism, which is quite important in the game, but has quite a learning curve.

Once you get out of the great plateau, then the game really starts and boy is it big. Just enjoy the scenery and don’t get too focussed on quickly completing it.

I kind of regret rushing the game the first play through.

Eventually I played through it multiple times. It’s really, really good. But it does take a lot of time!

amio, do games w I would like to enjoy Zelda BOTW but …

I grew up with ALttP, OoT, LA and MM mostly. I feel that BotW and TotK are OK games but not what I personally want from a Zelda game.

pjhenry1216, (edited ) do games w I would like to enjoy Zelda BOTW but …

I got farther than you, but felt all of those things didn't really improve or feel as fun. The weapon breaking is annoying. I feel like it's too quick.

Edit: I eventually gave up after the 'first' boss (I know you can do them any order, but water blight is generally considered the easier one to do first).

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