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Grass, do games w Roblox is coming to PlayStation next month

Roblox is a plague. It should be shut down and the operators put in a cell.

Jaeger86, do games w Roblox is coming to PlayStation next month

Let’s expand the whale userbase, and exploit more children

ShittyRedditWasBetter, do nintendo w Nintendo reportedly showed a demo of the ‘Switch 2’ console at Gamescom which included visuals comparable to the PS5 and Xbox Series X.

👌👍🤣

Anomalous_Llama, do nintendo w Nintendo reportedly showed a demo of the ‘Switch 2’ console at Gamescom which included visuals comparable to the PS5 and Xbox Series X.

My expectations for the switch successor are reasonable I think

Backwards compatible with the Switch

performance boost when docked (I’d be perfectly happy with solid 1080p 60fps)

Mobile performance of 720p 60fps (lower detail settings than docked)

And I dunno just get a modern fucking friend/online system or at the very least let me integrate discord lol

Seudo, do nintendo w Nintendo reportedly showed a demo of the ‘Switch 2’ console at Gamescom which included visuals comparable to the PS5 and Xbox Series X.

Can’t wait till graphics are better than reality!..

AzPsycho, do games w Starfield’s Xbox exclusivity ‘yielded a better product’, Todd Howard says

It worked for The last of Us and Spiderman. Optimization through exclusivity allows the publishers to spend less time chasing down random bugs and rendering issues.

circuitfarmer, do nintendo w Nintendo reportedly showed a demo of the ‘Switch 2’ console at Gamescom which included visuals comparable to the PS5 and Xbox Series X.
@circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

To use the PS5 as an example, it’s based on Zen 2 and RDNA 2, both of which are now deprecated. It would not be surprising for Nintendo to match them at this point in the cycle.

AProfessional,

Yes it is surprising, it’s a high TDP desktop x86 SoC vs a low TDP mobile ARM SoC. Not close.

circuitfarmer,
@circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Did Nintendo announce that Switch 2 is ARM?

AProfessional,

I don’t know. It’s obviously arm. They partner with Nvidia, they want backward compat, and it’s a mobile device.

Natanael,

The Steam Deck uses the same architectures by the way, with different core counts and a few more differences in capabilities

Clown_Tempura, do nintendo w Nintendo reportedly showed a demo of the ‘Switch 2’ console at Gamescom which included visuals comparable to the PS5 and Xbox Series X.

I feel like I’m in the minority when I’m looking forward to Nintendo making a high-powered console for once. The last time their hardware was on par with or better than the rest of the industry was the Gamecube, which was an amazing little system.

dudewitbow,

I dont think itll be high powered, thats just the reporter adding something for clickbait.

Im one to believe in Bobby Kottick mentioning that the Switch 2 is roughly the power of a PS4 as he was in contempt of the court when his leak of its performance was discussed. the handheld likely has better cpu performance though vs ps4, as its basically in the same playing field as the steam deck is, both companies who can sit and make thir 30% cut from developer games.

Tldr, dont expect Series S perf, expect steam deck performance with better battery and DLSS support to 4k (i personally believe itll target 1080p60, and use DLSS Performamce preset to upscale to 4k, as 1440p tvs arent common)

Clown_Tempura,

Honestly a handheld PS4 equivalent of the Steam Deck sounds nice too.

darn,
@darn@lemmy.world avatar

even then, the gamecube had mini discs instead of full sized ones, so games couldn’t be as big

the n64 was behind in a similar way, using cartridges when cds were starting to become the norm

Psythik, (edited )

You’re not. I’ve been wanting this since the GameCube, the last Nintendo system that was built with performance in mind and advertised as such. The Wii was a step in the wrong direction, and it was all downhill from there as far as my head canon is concerned. I’m glad that Nintendo is finally catering to fans like us again after waiting patiently for 22 years.

Rockslide0482, do nintendo w Nintendo reportedly showed a demo of the ‘Switch 2’ console at Gamescom which included visuals comparable to the PS5 and Xbox Series X.

Maybe I’m in the minority (doubtful since the switch is super popular) but I don’t need the Switch2 to be better than current/next gen as far as hardware goes. It’s portability, flexibility and funativity are what sells the thing for me. I’ve got a PC if I want to play fancy pants AAA games. One day, I’ll probably have a Steam Deck. I like playing Zelda and Mario, etc. on my Switch like it’s a the Super-Mega-Gameboy that I dreamed about as a youth. I sometimes play it docked, but probably 80+% of my game time on it is in handheld mode.

If the Switch 2 was basically a PS5-esque console (non-mobile, regular console), I’m sure I’ll eventually pick one up to play Nintendo exclusives, but mostly that would just hasten my purchase of a Steam Deck.

OrnateLuna,

Even if it was portable but had so much performance I wouldn’t want it bc then the battery life would be bad.

AceFuzzLord, do nintendo w Nintendo reportedly showed a demo of the ‘Switch 2’ console at Gamescom which included visuals comparable to the PS5 and Xbox Series X.

I’ll believe they made something on the same level as the competitors when the console actually comes out. An unreleased demo console is not something you should be using as a benchmark for how good the visuals are since the product will most likely go through a significant amount of changes in-between the demo and release.

Even then, there’s the chance that if the console is coming out a few days later, there is no guarantees they didn’t use an old demo console that is outdated compared to what will be released or wasn’t made specifically with the goal in mind of overselling the console by pouring resources into making the demo console actually better than the release one.

echodot, do nintendo w Nintendo reportedly showed a demo of the ‘Switch 2’ console at Gamescom which included visuals comparable to the PS5 and Xbox Series X.

Nintendo never makes high power consoles that’s not really their area. So I’d be surprised if this is true.

And what does PS5 equivalent graphics even mean? We just talking screen resolution or are we saying it can push the same poly count. I’d be prepared to accept it might get 1080p maybe 4k on a good day, but that’ll only be on low poly assets.

Psythik, (edited )

Both the N64 and the GameCube were built and marketed with performance in mind (especially the N64). Maybe you’re just too young to remember the ads.

Sethayy,

Today’s consoles are pretty different than the n64 or GameCube tho

km3k,

yeah, Project Reality

Phen,

Apparently the ps5 comparison is because they ran the same tech demo that the ps5 did 2 years ago. But that doesn’t really mean anything. At this point Nintendo may still be working with a wide range of specs on prototypes before finalizing a decision about what the console will be.

Hazdaz, do nintendo w Nintendo reportedly showed a demo of the ‘Switch 2’ console at Gamescom which included visuals comparable to the PS5 and Xbox Series X.

I don’t doubt it… Nintendo is always years behind.

The PS5 came out in 2020 and this Switch2 is probably a year away. So that would make their hardware be roughly 4 years old in terms of power. Plus if this is roughly the size of the current Switch, it won’t be pushing more than HD-resolutions (current Switch is only a 720 display), so getting PS5-level graphics on a 1080 screen these days is not particularly complicated or expensive.

Vathsade,

Current switch does 1080 docked already , so while I hope it’ll have at least 4k menus and 4k light games, I’d settled for 1080 again with some sorta more advanced AA for first party games

Hazdaz,

it’s screen is 720. I would not expect Nintendo to go above 1080 on the screen and maybe output a scaled-up 4K when docked.

Psyduck_world,

God of war 2016 PS 4 original setting at 720p on steam deck is about 30 fps. On ROG Ally afew frames less if you run it at 15 watts, at 45 watts Ally can probably do 720p at 50ish fps but less than an hour of battery. Ally is the top of line 2023 AMD tech apu and cost $700. Mobile technology is amazing right now, but it’s just not at a level where it can do 3 years old desktop graphics at a reasonable cost/power consumption.

Graphine, do nintendo w Nintendo reportedly showed a demo of the ‘Switch 2’ console at Gamescom which included visuals comparable to the PS5 and Xbox Series X.

I find this hard to believe. At this point Switch 2 “rumors” have just been used for clickbait now.

I think they’re working on it but it won’t be for awhile.

TPushic,
@TPushic@pgh.social avatar

@Graphine @nintendo If they work on it too long it’ll be obsolete upon release

paultimate14,

Nintendo is of course famous for never releasing obsolete hardware

Kolanaki,
!deleted6508 avatar

Judging from this article, it’s already obsolete.

echodot,

As per for Nintendo

Nioxic, do nintendo w Nintendo reportedly showed a demo of the ‘Switch 2’ console at Gamescom which included visuals comparable to the PS5 and Xbox Series X.

Compared to does not mean equal to… lol

ZoopZeZoop,

True, but it does suggest they are in the same league. Not saying it is, but able to be compared suggests that it may be as good in some aspects.

Patches,

I compared my wealth to Bill Gates and turns out he makes more money just existing for 1 minute than I will make in my entire life. But we are comparable.

kattenluik,

You are comparable, and what they said was not anywhere near over the top or outrageous.

Your disbelief in a product existing and making a joke out of what otherwise would be a proper conversation is honestly very sad.

legion,
@legion@lemmy.world avatar

And even if some prototype device is, that doesn’t mean the production device will be, once things like heat and power usage have to really be accounted for.

conciselyverbose,

It doesn't even matter a lot if it does have really good graphics capability. Nvidia is good at that (though whether they'd price that where Nintendo wants is questionable). The question is what Nvidia can give in a CPU, because the only ARM CPU out there that's actually interesting in terms of efficient per core performance is Apple.

eltimablo,

the only ARM CPU out there that's actually interesting in terms of efficient per core performance is Apple.

No it's not

conciselyverbose,

That is not a gaming capable chip. It is a server chip where the entire value proposition is the core count and connectivity.

Nvidia doesn't make anything and hasn't shown any capability to make anything that isn't a massive liability for gaming.

eltimablo,

There's no such thing as a "gaming chip" when it comes to CPUs. Are you trying to tell me that you can't plug a GPU into the PCIe slot of an Ampere Altra? Do you honestly believe that a game compiled for ARM magically won't run on a server chip due to some kind of hardware block that detects games and says "nope, not gonna run that?"

Also, Nvidia makes the processor in the Nintendo Switch, and I linked chips from two other manufacturers in my comment.

conciselyverbose, (edited )

There are performance traits you have to have to be even in the vicinity of functional for gaming, and they're the opposite of what you need for a server. Yes, I'm saying that if you put a gaming GPU into any of those chips, the performance would be fucking terrible. You need fast clocks and IPC with low latency, not lots of cores and high bandwidth. High "Performance per core" in terms of server parts does not mean that it can do anywhere close to the same work per core a consumer, gaming focused chip can do. The design parameters are completely different.

The processor in the Switch chip is the reason the Switch has such a limited AAA library. It's not mediocre. It's not serviceable. It's fucking terrible.

sebinspace,

Exactly. Oranges are comparable to apples, doesn’t mean they share much in common

Taringano,

Honestly the swtcih is so far off in performance that if the new switch performs like the ps4 it’s already a win.

TowerofPimps, do nintendo w Nintendo reportedly showed a demo of the ‘Switch 2’ console at Gamescom which included visuals comparable to the PS5 and Xbox Series X.
@TowerofPimps@lemmy.world avatar

Doubt.

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