I wonder if there’s some metric they’re going off of where the majority of the subscriber base only plays less than 100hrs and the “abusers” or whales play over the 100hr mark.
100hr / 30 days is 3.3 hours a day. Which as a father of two… I’d be lucky to get that much in a day.
100hr / 20 days(5 days a week) is 5 hours a day.
100hr / 8 days (weekends only gaming) is 12.5 hours a day.
None of these are outrageous and probably are the “average” user of the service.
Now if you’re doing 8 or 12 hours a day for 30 days, that’s 240-360 hours a month. Which is pretty much gaming full time.
I think 100 hours is a weird number to land on. I think 120 hours makes more sense (4 hours a day over 30 days).
I do expect Nvidia to lower the hours over time. Expect to see 80 hours or 50 hours soon IMO.
I’m not calling them out for their bullshit, but my GPUs are onboard M2 and M2 Pro Apple Silicon chips. I’m a Mac user. I think my Xbox Series X uses an AMD GPU. I didn’t choose it. My Switch has CPU/GPU technology by Nvidia. The original Switch was just a modded Nvidia Shield tablet and it originally ran Android (before it was released, I mean, the prototype did). Or it was rumoured to. I forget. My last Windows computer used an AMD GPU.
So as a Mac user, I’m actually a good candidate for GeForce Now. Mac guys tend to hate it because it’s not taking advantage of the actual Apple chip, but if you’re a gamer, you game where you can, how you can, when you can.
You need to own the games to play them so if they turn it off then you can still use them on a different services or gaming pc… But I guess you got a few tb on storage full of games and dont use any kind of launcher or digital marketplace, good for you to be able to afford that and yeah that makes you a non target audience.
This is one of those situations where you’re correct, but also being poopy about it. For people who don’t regularly play games or can’t afford a system, this is basically a modern blockbuster.
The reason people can’t afford a system is because NVidia is screwing with the market in the name of AI. Before that they were doing the same in the name of crypto. They’re one of the big companies manipulating politics in their favour, against the better interest of the general populace. They’re standing alongside the companies that are pushing for mass-surveillance, they’re pushing for people to lose their jobs, and for all the other nefarious ways AI is being applied.
But at least we can ignore our culpability and blame a computer when it decides to bomb a bus of brown school kids on the other side of the planet now, I guess.
I’m not sure I entirely buy that. For cloud gaming to be any good at all, you need a high-speed, low-latency internet connection. Yes, nowadays having an internet connection is pretty much a requirement in the industrialised world and even someone of lesser means will probably have one good enough to watch streaming video at a decent enough quality (unless they live in the middle of nowhere), but that’s not good enough. So with the expensive internet connection and the monthly subscription, cloud gaming doesn’t strike me as a very economical.
We’ve also been living in a period of diminishing returns when it comes to visual fidelity improving as hardware power does for a while now, so you can buy older, more affordable hardware and still have games look great on them. Meanwhile, I don’t think someone who insists on being able to see the surroundings accurately reflected in every window and puddle is going to accept the compression artifacts and latency of cloud gaming.
I agree but we have barely seen anything of what cloud gaming will become. Platforms like Steam will introduce it too. Especially after the Steam Machine is turning out to be such a headache for them because of uncertain hardware prices. This will happen and I am very afraid a lot of users will welcome it with open arms. We could be witnessing the end of home computers right now.
I don’t listen to influencers who make their entire damn money out of yelling at people “QUIT HAVING FUN!!!” or “YOUR GAME IS SLOP!!!” (while they literally play a slop of a different flavor) or got burned out by CoD for playing for so long that they hate it now and spend 90% of their time trashing it, sorry. I play the game myself and decide if I want to buy it or not.
Note that when Battlefield 6 launched I also put 100+ hours into it in like 2 weeks.
But yes, I should definitely be given a time limit sometimes LOL
Yeah I do this because I don’t want to spend $$$ upgrading my rig and I don’t have as much free time to justify hardware costs.
The paid plans start at $10/month. So $10/month to have hardware capabilities to play new games isnt bad. And if you want to divide it by hours additionally its $0.10/hour…
Between work, marriage, yard work, working out, and taking care of dogs, I’m lucky to get 10 hours a week and I make time for it as it’s my primary hobby. How do other adults get 50+ hours online?!
yeah I’m literally unemployed and gaming is my primary hobby. I have NEVER hit 100hrs on GFN and I’ve been using it for years. I may not have a job, but I do have a life outside of games. I can’t imagine someone who has both that has more than 100 hours of free time to game.
I know a lot of people who would consider 3 hours of gaming a day to be plenty, and I know a lot of people who buy Nvidia products. They are not the same people.
Ha, no. Many older gamers have the disposable income but not the time or motivation to spend hundreds of hours on gaming per month. I know what I’m talking about.
Still never buying into that subscription bullshit.
From what I understand about this subscription (I never looked into it before) it’s basically like a reverse Game Pass? So you pay the monthly subscription, and you can play the games that are on the service, on different devices aside from just a PC?
While that does sound pretty cool and impressive, I can’t imagine most people, or most anyone that calls themselves a gamer would touch this service with a 20’ pole. Like at that point, just own the game and system you want. You can play whenever and for however long you want.
Also, this may sound weird, but after reading the article I have a strong urge to start a game and just let it run idle, racking up playtime. Out of spite for Nvidia I guess.
That too. Even though my Game Pass has been cancelled and I haven’t had Xbox Live in a couple years, I can also still go into the Xbox PC app, install any game that I’ve bought that’s also PC compatible or stream whatever I own that isn’t (but still has cloud workability).
It’s how I’ve been playing Halo Wars 2 lately. And I’ve seen the Fable games are cloud compatible, but I haven’t tried those on PC yet.
You’re really just renting hardware. You own all your games and they aren’t tied to that service. The appeal is to play PC games without being on the perpetual hardware upgrade hamster wheel.
Just save what you would spend on subscribing to tbis dumb shit for a few months and build your own machine so you don’t have to throw money away on a subscription service.
There is the Steamdeck OLED still, Steam Machine and Steamframes on the way early 2026. Also there is enough used machines in the second hand marketplace to tide everyone else over until the AI bubble pops.
It has to eventually, right? It’s just straight up not sustainable, especially in its current form. But I do think the hype will carry things along for a little bit. No doubt things are gonna be ugly in the meantime
I mean “eventually” yes but for the foreseeable future Trump could continue dumping your and my money into it indefinitely in the name of “national security”.
Yeah you’re not wrong. The AI market only exists in its current state because it’s heavily subsidized, and that very well may continue to be the case for at least the time being
I think it will pop. But oh no! Now what do we do with all these data centers equipped with endless GPU power and RAM that we are building? Oh, I know! Cloud gaming! In fact let‘s buy up even more GPUs and RAM then rent the computing power to companies Epic Games, Valve, Apple, Nvidia. Look! Microsoft is already adding it to Gamepass+++! And what‘s that? Is that Google Stadia with a steel chair?! Better be quick folks!
This is the future of mainstream gaming. I wish I was being sarcastic. It will be horrible.
What console does 4k/240hz?? Even PS5 Pro can’t do 4k/60fps in most games, and usually it’s at lower graphics settings too, Digital Foundry does pixel counting and frame rate tests
The deck is weak yeah, much weaker, so there’s no need to embellish. PS5 runs plenty of games even below 1080p/60fps. Output is rarely the same as the actual rendering resolution.
You can’t just look at the output resolution, otherwise that makes the PS5 and PS5 Pro equivalent in most games, which obviously doesn’t make sense. You need to analyze the internal resolution, image quality, average frame rate instead of peak frame rate, graphics settings, etc
I’m not arguing against your point of the Deck being poor value if you just want to plug it into a TV and let it sit there.
Many AAA/high end games run at lower internal resolutions and/or frame rates on PS5/XSX. Otherwise PSSR would not have been a hyped marketing feature, they’d just run games at native 4k on PS5 Pro, but no, it needs PSSR.
I never said “every” or “none” on either side. But the heavy games often do not hit that bar or even get close to it. If all you need is a single example of a game hitting 4k120fps in order to consider it a 4k/120 system, well you can always run Quake 1 (with a source port) at that quality lol.
It’s just a bit of a stretch. I really only jumped in cause of the original comment about “4k/240” which has since been deleted anyways. Calling PS5 a 4k/120 system is reaching, but whatever. You can parrot their marketing material instead of assessing the real world results of the actual graphically demanding games.
“Yeah, we’re gonna do this new fangled form of piracy. It’s like the old way, but without the boats and parrots and stuff. We’re just stealing stuff now.”
what are people even paying for, 100h per month isn’t that much if you have a fair amount of free time or would pause the games between doing other things. i’m expecting for posts about someone accidentally leaving it open and not being able to play for the rest of the month.
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