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shadowedcross, do games w No, Phil Spencer, Having AI Mock Up An Old Game Is Not The Same As Preserving It
@shadowedcross@sh.itjust.works avatar

Oh OK, he’s trying to sell something, what a surprise…

quickenparalysespunk, do games w No, Phil Spencer, Having AI Mock Up An Old Game Is Not The Same As Preserving It

i agree with the headline. strongly. didn’t read the article.

btw is tech dirt still funded by (one of) Koch bros?

edit: honestly, just checking. won’t complain, whatever the answer.

sigmaklimgrindset,

According to their Wikipedia, Techdirt only accepted money from Charles Koch’s foundation for a lawsuit (amongst other donors), and are owned by Floor64.

Floor 64’s website only has 2 people listed in their management team, but I couldn’t dig up if either are linked to the Koch’s (I was pretty cursory about it though).

The article was worth a read for this quote alone:

VGHF library director Phil Salvador puts it even more simply: “Generative AI video is a great way to preserve video games, in the sense that mirages are a great source of water.”

tonytins, (edited ) do games w No, Phil Spencer, Having AI Mock Up An Old Game Is Not The Same As Preserving It
@tonytins@pawb.social avatar

That is the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard.

SpaceNoodle,

You must not follow US politics

tonytins,
@tonytins@pawb.social avatar

If I had a nickel for every dumb thing that went on in US politics, I’d be filthy rich.

dotslashme, do gaming w No, Phil Spencer, Having AI Mock Up An Old Game Is Not The Same As Preserving It

This seem less to do with preservation and more to do with capitalizing on an old game on a new platform.

KickMeElmo, do games w No, Phil Spencer, Having AI Mock Up An Old Game Is Not The Same As Preserving It

I’m honestly somewhat offended at the mere suggestion that this could be acceptable.

Blackmist, do gaming w Xbox Boss Surrenders In The Great Console Wars

They surrendered when they thought day one console buyers and people who liked gimmicky dance game peripherals were one and the same, and never really caught back up.

Since then they’ve been pushing Game Pass hard, but that mythical era where you’d just need a TV, internet and a gamepad just never arrived for them. Streaming games is probably fine for a lot of casual gamers, but the casual gamers are already on mobile and tend to spend very little on games. Far too little for Game Pass Ultimate to make sense for them.

And I’m really unconvinced that day one Game Pass games are sustainable. Even with their piss-poor output over the last few years.

I also don’t like that games are no longer going down much in price over time. It seems everyone is far too happy to leave things at launch price to make subscriptions and crap sales seem like better value.

orbitz, do gaming w Xbox Boss Surrenders In The Great Console Wars

The great one was Sega vs Nintendo, this was a sequel. A noticeable and impactful war but not the ‘great’ one.

Excel, do gaming w Xbox Boss Surrenders In The Great Console Wars
@Excel@beehaw.org avatar

Microsoft has always been the niche player here. Nintendo is usually the one on top when you look at the actual numbers.

_NetNomad, do gaming w Xbox Boss Surrenders In The Great Console Wars
@_NetNomad@fedia.io avatar

so long as Nintendo remains a more niche player

??????

SineSwiper, do gaming w Xbox Boss Surrenders In The Great Console Wars
@SineSwiper@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

So, Steam won?

Skymt,

Yeah, but no one else is even competing in the same league.

Megaman_EXE, do gaming w Xbox Boss Surrenders In The Great Console Wars

This kinda sucks to see. Less competition is a bad thing for everyone. Maybe it’s just me hanging onto every bit of nostalgia I have, but the Xbox generations were special.

I know that it can’t like…physically remove any of the good times I had with the systems over the years. But these consoles have been part of my life since 2001. So many friends and memories were created with these systems. In a way, it feels like your friend is dying, LOL. I know that’s extremely over dramatic, but like damn.

Some of the exclusives that came to the system were really special. It’s sad to see that over the past decade, there were really only a small handful of exclusives that were notable. Especially when early on we had some absolutely amazing stuff.

On a more serious note, I am extremely curious what this means going forward and how they will handle digital purchases a decade from now.

Faydaikin,
@Faydaikin@beehaw.org avatar

They’ll still make the Xbox consoles as long as they are selling. They’ll hopefully just ease off the “Exclusives” going forward.

It was a shitty way of trying to move consoles anyway.

Although they are late to the party, Sony is also trying to sell on PC and other storefronts. So my guess is that the console market isn’t treating either of them super well atm.

Gointhefridge, do gaming w Xbox Boss Surrenders In The Great Console Wars

Microsoft needs to merge their ecosystems and make the Xbox a PC Game console for your tv. I shouldn’t own 2 different units that have Microsoft operating systems that can’t use the same software in 2025. Xboxes should be PCs that run Xbox games. Make a forked version of Windows that’s TV friendly and have the ability to “boot” into a version of Windows that users can run their own PC games on.

I understand how tricky that can be for piracy and whatnot, but there’s gotta be a better way by now. At the very least, Xbox should include Steam/Epic games integration.

otter, do gaming w Xbox Boss Surrenders In The Great Console Wars

Relevant bit

Over the weekend, Spencer sat down for a lengthy interview with XboxEra in which he discussed his favorite games, talked about what various Xbox studios are working on, and dished on the industry at large. And he was also honest about Xbox no longer being part of any console war, as it shifts to selling Xbox games on other consoles, like PlayStation.

“I would love to make all of the money for all of the games that we ship, right? Like, obviously we make more on our own platform,” said Spencer. “It’s one of the reasons that investing in our own platform is important. But there are people, whether it’s their libraries on a PlayStation or Nintendo, whether it’s they like the controller better, they just like the games that are there.”

“I’m not trying to move them all over to Xbox anymore,” added Spencer.

Now, I don’t expect that to mean the sudden cessation of manufacturing of current Xbox hardware. I’m not entirely sure I believe that any of this means we won’t get another generation of the console at some point, either.

But I can see that happening. And everyone can already see how Microsoft has begun to pivot away from focusing on its console, has begun a far greater foray into cloud gaming through the Xbox Game Pass platform, and it has even begun moving away from the exclusivity we wrung our hands over months ago

endeavor, do gaming w Xbox Boss Surrenders In The Great Console Wars

I don’t think its as much as microsoft lost its just that all the consoles are the same, and pc and steam deck by extension plays all the games anyway for cheaper.

tatann,

… and better (except for bad ports)

RememberTheApollo_, do games w NBC News Does Entire Piece Trying To Link CEO Shooting To ‘Violent Video Game’
@RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world avatar

It’s likely more than half of adults in the US play video games. About 40% of those play some kind of shooter. There are 258 million adults in the US. That’s ~129 million gamers, and ~51 million “shooters”.

Out of 51 million, they think they can link one to a game and condemn the genre?

Whatever. Try again The only people that think so are the pearl-clutchers and the press.

jqubed,
@jqubed@lemmy.world avatar

Even better, the “violent video game” they’re blaming is Among Us!

screenshot of NBC article
(Not my screenshot, and I haven’t actually read the article)

NotMyOldRedditName,

Of all the games they try to demonize, they demonize a game type people have played at home for decades at parties, in person, with no computers.

Brilliant.

90s house party game here, I’m sure people played it earlier.

jqubed,
@jqubed@lemmy.world avatar

Not too much earlier; Wikipedia says the game was invented in 1986 by psychology student Dimitry Davidoff, a psychology student at Moscow State University.

NotMyOldRedditName,

Interesting, had no idea about its origin story.

Also… of course

In June 2006 a Rockingham school inquiry was launched after parents complained of the traumatic effects classroom Mafia was having on their fifth-grade children. Davidoff responded to the reports, saying that as a parent who had studied child psychology for 25 years, he felt that the game could “teach kids to distinguish right from wrong”, and that the positive message of being honest could overcome the negative effects of an “evil narrator” moderating the game as if it were a scary story.

jqubed,
@jqubed@lemmy.world avatar

If you enjoy the game you should check out The Traitors with its many international variants. I was surprised to read that the productions provide psychologists to help the contestants as it gets traumatic, but when I watched the first UK season there were a lot of people getting into emotional distress.

There have been a lot of people cast who really shouldn’t be on the show; it’s just a game!

NotMyOldRedditName,

I love the game, that show sounds really fun!

jqubed,
@jqubed@lemmy.world avatar

The biggest difference of the TV show versus the home game is the home game just ends whenever all the killers are found. The TV show has to reach a set number of episodes, so there are mechanisms built-in to make sure there’s always at least one traitor up to the final episode.

NotMyOldRedditName,

I actually did try watching a bit of it, and while I love the idea of it, I can’t stand the length they make it due to the reality tv show.

It just drags on and on.

If they’d made them 30-40 minute episodes instead of an hour I might have liked it.

jqubed,
@jqubed@lemmy.world avatar

I guess it depends which version you watch; I think the U.S. and Canada versions are 44 minutes without commercials, but yeah, it does have some filler. When someone’s actually good at the strategy it can be interesting hearing them talk through their plans.

BlindFrog,
1985MustangCobra,
@1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca avatar

This has been done over and over again to entice boomer parents to get their kids to stop playing video games. My parents didn’t let me buy any shooter games other than jet force gemini becuase they thought it was a exploration game…

RememberTheApollo_,
@RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world avatar

It’s rock music. It’s “reefer madness”. Then it’s metal music with satanic messaging when played backwards. Now it’s video games. Same old blame game while never tackling the actual problems of lack of psych care, real societal pressures like financial difficulties, and more.

1985MustangCobra,
@1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca avatar

I mean aside from LSD being introduced by the CIA into the public, everything else the government tries to blame someone else.

Sterile_Technique,
@Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world avatar

My parents didn’t let me buy any shooter games other than jet force gemini

At least you landed on solid gold! Jet Force Gemini was the single best shooter for the N64. Far superior to Golden Eye. Yes, I’ll die on this hill.

1985MustangCobra,
@1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca avatar

It was actually a really hard game. I never beat it, i sold my N64 anyways as i needed the cash.

Sterile_Technique,
@Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world avatar

Especially in the era before just looking shit up on the internet when you hit a snag. I remember scouring levels in that looking for a path that I’d missed when I couldn’t figure out where I was supposed to go next.

Definitely a highlight of the N64 for me. It’s up there with the Zeldas in my book.

1985MustangCobra,
@1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca avatar

beating majoras mask was the best thing ever.

Sterile_Technique,
@Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world avatar

…in an it was the worst thing ever kind of way - cuz that meant it was over Q_Q

1985MustangCobra,
@1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca avatar

yeah…true

Bronzebeard,

Boomers’ children are grown ass adults with their own kids now. Those parents are the ones who grew up playing games. This dumbass narrative doesn’t play anymore

1985MustangCobra,
@1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca avatar

I’m talking about boomer parents. In respects to the millennial parents, of course they are laughing at this shit (or I would hope so)

TachyonTele,

Boomers are the parents of Gen X kids.
What you’re saying doesn’t make any sense.

1985MustangCobra,
@1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca avatar

my parents are boomers and im a millennial (90)

TachyonTele,

That’s cool. Playing the outlier game could go on all day, but it’s obviously not the norm.

1985MustangCobra,
@1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca avatar

Ok. Maybe it was just me then, but growing up in the 90s there was a push for “video games bad they are violent”

TachyonTele, (edited )

Yea. They’ve been doing it since the 70’s, and are still doing it now by trying to say Among Us made Luigi violent.

That doesn’t have anything to do with the millennial or gen z generations. The first “video game generation” was X.

Silent> Greatest> Boomer> X> Millennial> Z

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