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Cornpop, do gaming w There's simply no going back

My monitor is 240hz and counter strike runs about 400fps max settings at 1080p on my new system. It was absolutely insane playing for the first time coming from my steam deck running 30-40fps on lowest settings.

setsneedtofeed, do gaming w There's simply no going back
@setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world avatar

Not playing TekWar at 18 frames per second

Cowards. It’s like you don’t even care about Capstone Software, the pinnacle of entertainment.

xkforce, do gaming w There's simply no going back

Wait until you experience 500

The_Picard_Maneuver,
@The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website avatar

Every time I get a taste for something better, things get more expensive… I’m going to avoid trying anything higher than 144 for a while.

pivot_root,

It’s for the best that you do that.

Sincerely, someone who “had” to buy an RTX 4080 after buying a new 200 Hz monitor.

Alteon,

Oh. Fuck…you got the Odyssey G9 as well?

In order for me to even taste the sweet potential of that monitor, I’m having to build a whole new computer. I’m dreading it.

pivot_root,

Hide the Pain Harold

The best advice I can give you is to turn off the FPS counter. If the game feels like it’s stuttering, turn down the quality. If it feels fine during gameplay, don’t fuck with it, and under no circumstances should you enable an FPS counter or frame timing graph.

If you’re anything like me and you do enable the FPS counter or frame timing graphs, you’ll spend more time optimizing performance than actually enjoying the game…

jacktherippah,

LOL I like how they mention one spec of the monitor and you instantly know which one they bought.

Cornpop,

I just built a new PC with a Ryzen 7800X3D CPU and a Radeon RX 7900 XTX GPU, loving it so far. 400fps with Counter-Strike 2 at max settings 1080p

pivot_root,

Wow, you went all out on that. What chipset? X670, X670E, B650, or B650E?

Cornpop, (edited )

B650, wasn’t planing on OC and figured better to put the money to the CPU and GPU

pivot_root,

Great pick. The X670 and E variants are insanely overpriced for what they provide. People don’t need PCIE 5 when there aren’t even any non-SSD components that use it.

xintrik,

I made an awful mistake of getting a 1440p OLED instead of the 540 and now a TN panel is going to be very difficult to get used to.

JackGreenEarth, do gaming w There's simply no going back

Can’t your eye only see like 30 frames per second in the center?

Sendpicsofsandwiches,
@Sendpicsofsandwiches@sh.itjust.works avatar

Technically yes, but the more fluid the video is 8n the first place, the fewer gaps your brain has to fill in. On 30 fps you can see the moving image just fine, but your brain is always assembling the pieces and ignoring the gaps. The higher framerates reduce the number of gaps and makes a surprising difference in how smooth something looks in motion.

Dutczar,
@Dutczar@sopuli.xyz avatar

So you just explained why it’s actually a no.

TheSlad,

Also most monitors only go up to 60fps, and even if you have a fancy monitor that does, your OS probably doesn’t bother to go higher than 60 anyways. Even if the game itself says the fps is higher, it just doesn’t know that your pc/monitor isnt actually bothering to render all the frames…

pivot_root, (edited )

This is blatantly false.

Windows will do whatever frame rate the EDID reports the display as being capable of. It won’t do it by default, but it’s just a simple change in the settings application.

Macs support higher than 60 Hz displays these days, with some of the laptops even having a built-in one. They call it by some stupid marketing name, but it’s a 120 Hz display.

Linux requires more tinkering with modelines and is complicated by the fact that you might either be running X or Wayland, but it’s supported as well.

drcobaltjedi,

To add on to this. There are phones coming out now with 90+hz screens. They are noticably smoother than the 60hz ones. My current phone does 120hz.

Yeah the OS can and will shove out frames as fast as the hardware can support them

Voyajer, (edited )
@Voyajer@lemmy.world avatar

Wayland picks up my 155, 144, and 60 hz monitors and sets them to the correct refresh rate on it’s own nowadays, so it’s even more painless.

ChicoSuave,

What the fuck? Help us understand: which OS doesn’t limit fps and what do you see when you check frame rates with your own eyes?

fiah,
@fiah@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

my man, just because you’ve never seen the refresh rate option in the monitor settings doesn’t mean it hasn’t been there since basically forever

olutukko,

You just won the award for stupidest comment in the whole commentsection. That is just completely false and makes no sense in any way. Your computer doesn’t just skip calculations its told do do. Where did you even get this idea lmao

CommanderCloon,

That was true before high framerate monitors were a thing, which was around 10+ years ago…

fiah,
@fiah@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

no it wasn’t true back then either, CRTs have been doing 100hz and more decades ago and it was very much supported by OSes and games

yggdar,

Our eyes and brains don’t perceive still images or movement in the same way as a computer. There is no simple analogy between our perception and computer graphics.

I’ve read that some things can be perceived at 1000 fps. IIRC, it was a single white frame shown for 1ms between black frames. Of course most things you won’t be able to perceive at that speed, but it certainly isn’t as simple as 30 fps!

Zron,

The human brain evolved to recognize threats in the wilderness.

We see movement and patterns very well because early hominid predators were very fast and camouflaged, so seeing the patterns of their fur and being able to react to sudden movements meant those early people didn’t die.

But evolution doesn’t optimize. Things only evolve up to the point where something lives long enough to reproduce. Maybe over extremely long time spans things will improve if they help find mates, but that is all evolution does.

Your brain perceives things fast enough for you not to get eaten by a tiger. How fast is that? Who the fuck knows.

All the being said, I like higher HZ monitors. I feel like I can perceive motion and react to things more quickly if the frame rate is higher. The smoother something looks, the more likely I feel that I can detect something like part of a character model rounding a corner. But no digital computer is ever going to have analog “frame times”, so any refresh rate you think feels comfortable is probably fine.

zout,

That's what I've heard. but also, the frequency of electricity in the USA is 60 Hz because Tesla found after experimentation that that's the frequency where you don't notice a lightbulb flickering anymore. Since the lightbulb flickers 120 times per second at 60 Hz, you could assume that a lower framerate than 120 fps is noticable.

Ibaudia,
@Ibaudia@lemmy.world avatar

No, your brain just blurs an overwhelming amount of visual information into images as it sees fit. It doesn’t have a framerate limit.

AbsoluteChicagoDog,

No. Iirc around 200hz is where you get diminishing returns.

olutukko,

No. This is something console fanboys used to spread up when pc gamets showed off with their +30fps games

DacoTaco, do gaming w Game of the Year
@DacoTaco@lemmy.world avatar

I had legit expected it to win, just because it was bethesda and was ready to rage because baldurs gate was so good. Yet, here we were, without starfield.
That poor game belongs in the ditch where it is right now imo

simple, do gaming w Game of the Year

The random Starfield trailer they had in the middle of TGA made me laugh so hard. Some serious “we weren’t invited but came anyways” energy.

Neato,
@Neato@kbin.social avatar

Big "Please buy" energy.

wizardbeard, do gaming w The Sims can be a fever dream sometimes
@wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Common in a good bunch of games. Happens when the game tries to use an animation that’s scaled for a larger 3D “skeleton”. It’s trying to use an animation here that’s sized for an adult Sim, so when the animation says “hands go here, elbows here, shoulders here, etc” it stretches to the adult proportions and makes this unholy mess.

See also: Smash Bros Brawl’s Longchu/Gannon-chu glitch/mod of Pikachu’s 3D model with Gannon’s moves and animations, Zelda Twilight Princess speed runs where you activate cutscenes for human form Link while in Wolf form so you get to watch what looks like a mangled twitching roadkill wolf propped up on top of a horse.

SgtAStrawberry,

That makes a lot of sense, especially as the sim in the picture is supposed to be a toddler and from what I remember toddlers can’t go to boarding school. That is only for kids and teens. Also from what I remember unless you bring them home yourself, they only come home if they age up.

So if the game is as I remember it, I totally understand why the toddler body freaked out.

pzyko, do gaming w The Sims can be a fever dream sometimes

Are the parents Zuckerberg and Slenderman?

jol, do gaming w The Sims can be a fever dream sometimes

They grow up so fast, you barely recognise them.

Vcio, do gaming w The Sims can be a fever dream sometimes
@Vcio@lemmy.world avatar

He found his hole

salvaria,
T4UTV1S,

That’s a deep cut, nice!

MacedWindow, do gaming w Try again
@MacedWindow@lemmy.world avatar

I had to restart my first renegade playthrough of Mass Effect to make my character look different, as I couldn’t stand seeing my paragon goodboy being mean to everybody

Stamets,
@Stamets@startrek.website avatar

God do I feel that

Wrench, do gaming w Same theme song but made with revving chainsaws

CD? That should be on a handful of floppy disks, tyvm. And be named “2 WooD”

Karlos_Cantana, do gaming w Same theme song but made with revving chainsaws
@Karlos_Cantana@kbin.social avatar

I believe she is, indeed, holding the case for wood.

Overzeetop,

That one just gets a sleeve.

saltnotsugar, do gaming w Same theme song but made with revving chainsaws

I choose to believe there is a lumberjack doing epic kill moves on logs somewhere in the woodland realm.

pleb_maximus,

Going by the game used in the screencap as the bottom pic, I doubt that there will be kill moves.

otter,

So, sample the shit outta Coldcut - Timber for the theme song, then?

BellaDonna, do gaming w Same theme song but made with revving chainsaws

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