kbin.social

Indy, do kbinMeta w Can we help against spammers?

Starting to feel like there's more SPAM than posts on Kbin, at this point.
I sort by new and comb through reporting "SPAM" and blocking users, but it's a never-ending cycle it seems and users reported for SPAM are still posting (hence why I block them in addition to reporting the individual posts).

BaldProphet, do kbinMeta w I'm seeing more microblog posts
@BaldProphet@kbin.social avatar

It's been a feature at least since the Reddit protest last year, which is when I started using kbin.

Kierunkowy74,
@Kierunkowy74@kbin.social avatar

It was available from day one of kbin.social. And even earlier.

CharlesReed, do kbinMeta w Lemmy.world has gone read only to us

Well that explains why a couple threads I posted weren't gaining any traction. I hope the issue gets figured out soon, otherwise I'll have to use my Mbin alt for anything lemmy.world related.

fiat_lux, do kbinMeta w Are we cut off?

Many of us are getting banned from other instances because there is a bug where kbin is sending way too much traffic per interaction. I know that was affecting federation (according to other instance admins) so It might have something to do with that. The content on kbin does seem to me like it's not in sync at all, but I haven't measured it.

All we can really do for now is hope for a fix and not interact with posts from other instances.

HubertManne,
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I saw some comments around this and did seem about the same time the 404's started. maybe thats it.

e0qdk, do kbinMeta w Are we cut off?
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This post made it over to reddthat, so your posts are federating out.

Checking over on my kbin account as well, I can see content in /newest from multiple sources. /sub returns 404 but I think that’s just a caching bug (adding ?p=1 to the end of the URL lets me workaround it).

e0qdk,
@e0qdk@kbin.social avatar

It took about a minute for my comment from reddthat to show up here, but it looks like it made it through ok, so inbound comments are working. (Note: replying to myself from my kbin account)

e0qdk,
@e0qdk@reddthat.com avatar

And I got the response from kbin back on reddthat fine. Seems like communication is working.

HubertManne,
@HubertManne@kbin.social avatar

thanks. I actually was seeing something similar at the start of the weekend but it sorta reveresed on me where sub works and newest gives me the 404. I have been looking through my sub and I am seeing lemmy mags. Thanks for the feedback.

static, do kbinMeta w Do the "Ernest needs to add more maintainers to KBin!" comments remind anyone else of the xz social engineering malarkey?
@static@kbin.social avatar

xz was successful because it was believable, but a malicious actor would more likely target libraries that are depended on by many, like xz.

wjrii, do kbinMeta w Do the "Ernest needs to add more maintainers to KBin!" comments remind anyone else of the xz social engineering malarkey?
@wjrii@kbin.social avatar

Yes, there is some similarity. You're not wrong.

However, it's much more likely to be due to the common experience of solo devs whose projects blow up than it is about bad actors on kbin.

If you're so inclined, you can always check the profiles of those who were pushing for it and particularly those who were volunteering; the boehs.org link should supply some helpful red flags to look for. Ernest would be wise to check IP activity and even ask for IRL credentials of those he would consider giving any real level of access to. Beyond that, it's firmly in the realm of "mildly interesting."

HarkMahlberg,
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It's not the boeh.org link, but here is a similar timeline of events: https://research.swtch.com/xz-timeline

Pamasich, do kbinMeta w Do the "Ernest needs to add more maintainers to KBin!" comments remind anyone else of the xz social engineering malarkey?

I don't know what this xz thing is about, first time hearing it. But people saying he should get more help are trying to help him, not having malicious plans like installing backdoors or whatever.

I do think people should ask less for more maintainers — the project is already opensource, so it's up to maintainers to join, not him to seek them out. But he should still get some help with managing the instance. Pauses in development are fine imo, but the instance shouldn't be swarmed with spam and account deletion requests lost in limbo just because ernest got sick or something, which can happen with the best work life balances.

FfaerieOxide,
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I don't know what this xz thing is about, first time hearing it.

Someone pressured the maintainer of a compression tool used in a bunch of open source software to hand over the keys by citing burnout and offering to "help" then spent ~3 years slowly adding tiny changes that combined to form a backdoor in SSH that nearly compromised the entire internet or something.

It was only barely caught by accident because it made some thing some guy was doing that wasn't even related a fraction of a second slower.

Been all over the FOSSiverse for days, and the social engineering that was used on the xz maintainer reminded me personally of similar pressure certain people have applied to Ernest in most threads about kbin performance I have seen.

FaceDeer,

The reason it worked is because sometimes burnout is a real problem, and getting extra help is a real solution. The fact that this was exploited in one situation doesn't mean that all of a sudden there isn't any real burnout or genuine offers to help any more.

A project can sometimes benefit from help even if there is no burnout. People have limits.

Facni, do kbinMeta w So I really am the cancer on this platform

I realize that a magazine I made isn't available through lemmy.world and lemmy.ml and some communities from there aren't available here. Does someone know why?

livus,
@livus@kbin.social avatar

Normally if nobody from an instance has subscribed it doesn't show up in searches from that instance. You have to manually type the exact url and subscribe that way. Once one person has done it, it will show up.

Facni,

I tried, but it doesn't work. Is this something that will change in the future?

ghostatnoon,
@ghostatnoon@kbin.social avatar

I've had it take up to a week for a community to show up after I've searched for it.

Pamasich,

To newly federate a magazine with Lemmy, search for it using the syntax !Polytopia@kbin.social in Lemmy's built-in search. This worked for me instantly when I just tested it on lemm.ee, after confirming that it 404s before doing it.

Auster, do kbinMeta w So I really am the cancer on this platform

Oh, so that must be why quite a few of the magazines I follow more consistently started appearing empty. Thanks for addressing it, op!

MrKaplan,
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for a magazine to show up on lemmy, a logged-in user needs to visit it first. afterwards, to ensure that new content is published to lemmy instances, someone from that instance needs to subscribe to the magazine. this needs to happen on every instance as far as i know. this is one of the reasons services like lemmy-federate.com or browse.feddit.de exist.

Auster,

The magazines I follow, they worked before, so I don't think this would apply.

eveninghere, do kbinMeta w So I really am the cancer on this platform

I got this ban when I took shower every 1 msec.

roguetrick,

Gotta stay clean.

diotima, do kbinMeta w /kbin next March update
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@ernest Best of luck and get well soon.

Facni, do kbinMeta w /kbin next March update

Thanks @ernest for your amazing work

roastedDeflator, do kbinMeta w /kbin next March update
@roastedDeflator@kbin.social avatar

@ernest thank you for the update and everything. Its great to hear your personal matter is kinda sorted.

  1. I already have the moderation of several magazines so I won't be able to contribute to that more, I think.
  2. I am a little bit familiar with bug reporting, not in github tho. So I just created a github account and a codeberg to try and contribute. Of course I will have to spend time checking out the existing ones and familiarizing myself with the platforms. I say all this because if you or any of the active devs, have test cases or a specific area that you would like to check first or anything relevant, I would gladly do my best to help on demand.
HeartyBeast, do kbinMeta w Will it be possible at some point to have private magazines?
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Sounds like a good case for someone running their own instance?

FarraigePlaisteach,

For those with the skills, yes. But it would be good to facilitate less technical people to use the platform too.

HeartyBeast,
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Understood

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