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batterysoup, do gaming w Switch 2 would arrive in the second half of 2024 and development kits are already out

Launching without an OLED screen would be a mistake. It's going backwards with what they achieved with the switch OLED model.

JJROKCZ, do gaming w Baldur’s Gate 3 on Xbox Series: Larian Studios says not this year

I guess trying to make a current game work on the lower “next gen” model is harder than anticipated based on that article earlier this week where they said getting split screen working was a challenge

WanderingPoltergeist, do gaming w Baldur’s Gate 3 on Xbox Series: Larian Studios says not this year
@WanderingPoltergeist@kbin.social avatar

That's a shame as I was hoping to play Baldur's Gate 3 on my Series S sometime this year. I'll just wait for it to release on Xbox instead of getting it for PC. I've got other games to entertain myself until then.

BudgieMania, do games w The Lord of the Rings: Gollum gets a big patch with multiple fixes

I feel so bad for them, there are few things in software dev worse than having to devote significant time and effort to a project that is failed at a concept level

JeevaBeans, do gaming w PAYDAY 3 will use Denuvo anti-piracy technology in its PC version

And that is a no from me.

CriticalMiss, do games w PAYDAY 3 will use Denuvo anti-piracy technology in its PC version

I like to use Denuvo as an indicator of a bad release. For someone with over 3k hours on PAYDAY 2, I just cancelled my preorder.

Thank you for the fun times OVERKILL, sad to see you go this way.

Kerandir,

I don’t know a lot about Denuvo, is it a bad thing? Why did you cancel your pre order based on that?

CriticalMiss,

It’s a DRM scheme to protect against piracy. Over the years I saw more and more shitty titles use Denuvo on release because God forbid someone steal their cash grab. A lot of titles that are of quality usually do not see the need for Denuvo.

Therefore, nowadays, for me Denuvo serves as an indicator of a potentially shitty release. They slap Denuvo on top of it so that they can pump & dump.

Maybe I’ll buy the game when it’s on sale, but for now I am too skeptical, especially since slapping additional DRM on an already DRM’d game (it’s multiplayer only and always online, unlike previous parts that allowed offline play) does not make any sense to me.

Miqo,

Edit: Seems the below statement was factually incorrect. Oops!

It’s a very obnoxious and heavy-handed approach to anti-piracy measures. It slows down games, kills framerates, gives users a whole host of other performance issues, and just makes the experience worse overall. It’s a product that doesn’t even seem to care to improve, because they make their money from publishers, not the people who buy and play the game. Many people hate it, and I believe it’s absolutely justified.

beefcat,
@beefcat@lemmy.world avatar

There isn’t a lot of evidence to back these claims up. For most users, it’s entirely transparent. You would never know a game shipped with Denuvo unless your first launch is offline and it fails to authenticate.

There have been games that had their performance impacted, but I don’t think it’s the norm. Games like Doom 2016 shipped with it and saw no performance gains when Denuvo was eventually patched out. I think titles like Rime and RE8 are usually the exception, but it’s something I always watch out for in reviews. If a game runs bad, I don’t buy it, regardless of the cause.

Denuvo has proven successful for 2 reasons:

  1. It’s actually effective. Games go months or even years without a crack.
  2. It’s nowhere near as draconian as what came before (TAGES, StarForce, SecuROM, etc). Most players aren’t even aware of its existence. They just buy these games on Steam and they work, which is why all the weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth that goes on in these threads never accomplishes anything.
Miqo,

So, I went back and tried to look for a source, but you’re right. Thanks for informing me! From the few sources I read, those issues were debunked, exaggerated, or due to bad implementation. I want to add that I still don’t like the idea of Denuvo (or any other DRM) on digital media that I purchase, but that’s a different topic.

Alimentar,

Honest question here. Could it be possibly that as they improved their DRM with more triggers and methods that it has started to impact performance since 2016?

As Empress was cracking Denuvo, I wouldnt be surprised if they started to quickly add extra defencive measures compromising what could have been optimised in the past.

beefcat,
@beefcat@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t think so, because it has become less common over time for Denuvo to be the cause of bad performance. Doom 2016 is an early good example, likely because Id Software takes optimization very seriously. Stories of games having bad performance due to DRM were a lot more common back then. The worst example I can recall was Rime in 2017, which was borderline unplayable until the developers removed Denuvo in a patch.

CatZoomies,
@CatZoomies@lemmy.world avatar

Why are we still preordering AAA digital video games from multi-million dollar corporations?There is no incentive to preorder AAA video games anymore - long gone are the days of midnight launches for physical games.

  • Cyberpunk 2077
  • Returnal
  • Forsaken
  • The Lord of the Rings: Gollum
  • Fallout 76
  • Grand Theft Auto: Definitive Edition
  • The Last of Us Part 1
  • No Man’s Sky
  • Etc. ad nauseum

All of these games came with a half-assed apology from the publisher and how “this wasn’t their intention”. Yes, it was absolutely their intention. They released a knowingly broken game and charged us full price for it. They already got our money and laughed because they know we’re too stupid to do anything about it and that they’ve trained us well with “fear of missing out”.

How many times do us gamers need to get burned by video game publishers until we learn our lesson?

Stop rewarding and encouraging their predatory behavior. Opt out of this abusive practice by not preordering and voting with your wallet. Let them earn your money, so “they can feel a sense of pride and accomplishment”.

Skipcast, do gaming w PAYDAY 3 will use Denuvo anti-piracy technology in its PC version

What’s the point if the game is already always online? Sounds like throwing money in the ocean.

Raji_Lev,
@Raji_Lev@kbin.social avatar

The point is punishing the people who pay money for this sh*t, apparently (and they will, because for everybody who refuses to buy something that comes with malware bundled in there will be at least two screaming "SHUT UP AND TAKE OUR MONEY!")

Eavolution, do gaming w PAYDAY 3 will use Denuvo anti-piracy technology in its PC version
@Eavolution@kbin.social avatar

Is Denuvo one of ones that works on linux? If not I'll be sticking to payday 2.

GamerKick,
@GamerKick@kbin.social avatar

No problems using it with proton from what i know, but i still dislike denuvo.

Norgur, do games w PAYDAY 3 will use Denuvo anti-piracy technology in its PC version

Denuvo has become a very strong indicator to me that not the game devs are calling the shots during development, but the Excel-sheet-business-suit-monkeys are.

Only some business-fool would look at a proposal to buy that piece of performance-guzzling crap and go "Hey, then everyone who'd be a pirate otherwise will buy my product and spend money in muh cash shop, that's totally worth the investment", ignoring the immense drawbacks for paying costumers.

especially in a frickin' coop-shooter where piracy will never be as big of a deal because people want to play together with others on your frickin' servers anyway....

forgotaboutlaye,

Yeah, I don't get it -- the game is essentially online-only (not sure if you can play with bot teammates like the previous titles, but that wasn't too enjoyable anyway). Why pay for Denuvo as well unless you're out of touch?

ampersandrew, do gaming w Electronic Arts interested in making more Star Wars Jedi games
@ampersandrew@kbin.social avatar

It would be great if they were interested in making them without an always online requirement. I bought Fallen Order on sale for $4 and still felt ripped off.

thingsiplay, do gaming w PAYDAY 3 will use Denuvo anti-piracy technology in its PC version
@thingsiplay@kbin.social avatar

@GamerKick Game is dead on arrival. There was rumors before the would be always online. Which at least most (not all!) people would have ignored, because this is an online focused game. But Denuvo? As if the masses would pirate an online focused game, that is online only anyway. I don't get this. Hopefully they will remove Denuvo after some time, like some other devs/publishers do.

Is piracy really such an issue for the PC Gaming industry? They must have some data we don't know. Why would they pay millions of Dollars otherwise?

Raji_Lev,
@Raji_Lev@kbin.social avatar

Mostly because it looks good for the suits and investors, and since it doesn't actually seem to hurt their sales that much (hint hint)

thingsiplay,
@thingsiplay@kbin.social avatar

@Raji_Lev Imagine putting the money into actual development or some online infrastructure. Oh wait, that would make sense. Yeah, not gonna happen.

Ashtear,
@Ashtear@kbin.social avatar

It's digital snake oil.

Products or services that act as fig leaves for C-suites are a growth industry.

ilickfrogs, do games w PAYDAY 3 will use Denuvo anti-piracy technology in its PC version
@ilickfrogs@lemmy.world avatar

Bro who tf is stealing Payday let alone to play alone. What a waste of money and a fuck you to paying customers.

vewave, do gaming w The creators of Wo Long: Fallen Dynasty promise more fixes on the PC version
@vewave@kbin.social avatar

Wo Long is the harsh reminder that I shouldn't pre-order games. That one water level is quite literally unplayable even at the lowest settings.

technologicalcaveman, do gaming w The next Battlefield will ‘reimagine’ the series as a ‘truly connected ecosystem’

It's like they don't want to sell games

explodIng_lIme, do gaming w The next Battlefield will ‘reimagine’ the series as a ‘truly connected ecosystem’

Didn’t they do this already with battlelog back in the day?

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