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dditty, do gaming w Five years from launch the PS5 is a roaring success, so why doesn't it feel like it? [Eurogamer]

I got a PS5 shortly after launch which was a chore; I subscribed to a discord group to get notified about new store drops so I could find one at MSRP to avoid scalpers. The only exclusive I played through was the Demon Souls remaster. Ive played other games on it too but they are all cross-platform and I could’ve played them on my gaming PC.

imetators, do gaming w Five years from launch the PS5 is a roaring success, so why doesn't it feel like it? [Eurogamer]

Nice style, fast lodaing screens, 4k and good graphics. But to me, it is just an upgraded ps4. Graphics didnt leap as far as 8bit-16bit-ps1-ps2-ps3. Big focus on improving visuals lead us to have great visuals barely changing overtime, but gameplay didnt evolve.

tmyakal,

gameplay didn’t evolve

Massive understatement. The PS5’s biggest titles were remakes and direct sequels. Coupling it with the “upgraded” versions of PS4 games like Ghost of Tsushima, Last of Us Part 2, and GTA5, even the marketing seemed to boil down to “This is just a really nice PS4.”

frezik, do gaming w Five years from launch the PS5 is a roaring success, so why doesn't it feel like it? [Eurogamer]

It’s because of this:

vgchartz.com/…/ps5-vs-ps4-sales-comparison-june-2…

Align PS4 and PS5 sales to their launch date, and you’ll see that the PS5 has been lagging behind. Not by a lot, but it’s noticeable. This is despite the fact that The Xbox Series X/S is doing a bit worse than the Xbox One, and the One did a lot worse than the 360. Nintendo, of course, is in another room doing its own thing.

Sony expected every generation to sell better than the last. The market has clearly hit a saturation point, so that expectation is no longer valid. Combine that with the fact that Moore’s Law (originally defined as the price per integrated component dropping) is completely dead. That means you can no longer expect better hardware to get cheaper. You might be able to find fabs that can give you more performance, but it’ll cost you.

This is why the GabeCube is a good idea from a business persepctive. It will likely have better performance than the Xbox Series X/S, but not as good as the PS5. What it can do is be affordable with good enough hardware. The specs appear to be a bit Frankenstein, which is what you’d expect if Valve grabbed whatever deals on things they could find to put something together.

Cevilia, do gaming w Five years from launch the PS5 is a roaring success, so why doesn't it feel like it? [Eurogamer]

It… does feel like a success, though?

theangriestbird,
@theangriestbird@beehaw.org avatar

it feels like it’s winning, but it doesn’t feel as successful as the numbers show it is. Everyone has a PS5 but a lot of them are collecting dust already.

Cevilia,

Everyone has a PS5

Feels like a success to me?

theangriestbird,
@theangriestbird@beehaw.org avatar

If no one is buying new games, that is bad for Sony and bad for the industry. Part of Sony’s business model is built around the revenue from digital game sales and PS plus memberships. You ain’t makin money from those if no one is using the consoles they bought.

InevitableList,

Consoles are usually sold at a loss and profit is made on the software i.e games and nowadays subscriptions. Selling hardware at a loss with no follow up is going to hurt.

t3rmit3, do gaming w Five years from launch the PS5 is a roaring success, so why doesn't it feel like it? [Eurogamer]

I never got the PS5 because the PS3 -> PS4 jump was too underwhelming, when PC is pulling away so many games. And it’s not about or solvable with exclusives, because there are literally no games I can think of that would make me buy a whole console just to play. Imho PC gaming, especially in the Golden Age of Indies, is just too strong an argument unless you are a console-only gamer.

cdnwaffleiron, do gaming w Five years from launch the PS5 is a roaring success, so why doesn't it feel like it? [Eurogamer]

Yup think the PS5 is going to be my last console purchase. In future if i get the itch to play on the tv i’ll plug my laptop into the TV.

mill_city, do gaming w Five years from launch the PS5 is a roaring success, so why doesn't it feel like it? [Eurogamer]

Exclusives? So PS5 isn’t as good as PS4 because you can play more of its catalogue on other platforms? This feels like a bad take to me.

People here already mentioning a lot of other good points that I think are bigger contributors to the feeling of the PS5 being less successful than it is.

melsaskca, do games w "This is a blatant, unapologetic act of vicious union busting" - Hundreds of Rockstar employees sign letter to management, demanding fired colleagues get reinstated

Get around this by passing fucking laws people. The law has for too long favoured the rich and powerful over the forces that create the wealth (the people). You don’t need unions if you are protected by law. Skip the middle man. No salesman will enter your home. I’m only pro-union until the laws catch up (but they never seem to, right?).

Vodulas, do gaming w Five years from launch the PS5 is a roaring success, so why doesn't it feel like it? [Eurogamer]

The only reason I got a PS5 was because my PS4’s HDMI port got damaged somehow. The controller is a significant upgrade if games use it, but not a lot do. Looking back, I probably would have been fine without it at all since I have a Steam Link and that works great in the TV

WALLACE,

The main reason why I got one was because my PS4 was on its last legs after the hammering it got during 8 months of covid lockdown and furlough, and the whole console was cheaper than a new graphics card for my PC (+the other upgrades it needed to accommodate it).

The new controller is epic and that astrobot demo game really showcased its capabilities, but no other games have used it, even other exclusives like god of war. Wasted opportunity.

danielhanrahantng, do gaming w Five years from launch the PS5 is a roaring success, so why doesn't it feel like it? [Eurogamer]

I don’t think it really is a success at least not a success in sony’s eyes an I hope they have a plan on what to do about the excess ps5s after it got the final nail in the coffin.

themachinestops, do gaming w Five years from launch the PS5 is a roaring success, so why doesn't it feel like it? [Eurogamer]

Still haven’t surpassed PS1, PS2, PS3, or PS4 sales.

en.wikipedia.org/…/List_of_best-selling_game_cons…

I think it is because it launched without that many games and honestly sure there was improvement, but not as much as the jump from PS2 to PS3, or PS3 to PS4.

theangriestbird,
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I think it has surpassed all those consoles at this point in their life cycles. Or at least it did, maybe it is sliding in that metric.

Paradachshund, do gaming w The Witcher 3 director's new RPG The Blood of Dawnwalker is different to that classic CD Projekt Red game in one big way: it doesn't have a main quest [Eurogamer]

This is something I’ve wanted to see explored a lot for years. Excited to see a big studio trying it.

bjoern_tantau,
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Is that not basically every MMORPG?

MagisterSieran,

FFXIV and GW2 both have main quests, I don’t know about others.

Paradachshund,

MMOs have main quests usually

SatansMaggotyCumFart, do gaming w The Witcher 3 director's new RPG The Blood of Dawnwalker is different to that classic CD Projekt Red game in one big way: it doesn't have a main quest [Eurogamer]

That's basically Legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild though.

theangriestbird,
@theangriestbird@beehaw.org avatar

Sure, “it doesn’t have a main quest” is a splashy way of saying “we’re doing a BOTW-style game structure”. But I’m totally down for a dark and gritty BOTW, that sounds like a fresh take to me.

SatansMaggotyCumFart,

As long as they have a dark and gritty twunk leading it.

Kolanaki,
@Kolanaki@pawb.social avatar

Possibly one that sometimes becomes a wolf or wears lady clothes.

SomeRandomNoob, do gaming w The Witcher 3 director's new RPG The Blood of Dawnwalker is different to that classic CD Projekt Red game in one big way: it doesn't have a main quest [Eurogamer]

So a “side quest” only game with a final “Boss”? Hmmm … sounds interesting. But I’m not sure if I could warum up to this Fame Concept

psx_crab, do gaming w The Witcher 3 director's new RPG The Blood of Dawnwalker is different to that classic CD Projekt Red game in one big way: it doesn't have a main quest [Eurogamer]

his new role-playing game has no main quest

https://lemmy.zip/api/v3/image_proxy?url=https%3A%2F%2Fuploads.dailydot.com%2F2024%2F07%2FEP0xPlFt-Doubt.jpg

What he describe really sounds like BOTW but with TTRPG writing, you have a goal, you have faction quest to do, and all these quest affect your path to the goal, and you can probably just walk straight to that goal if know where it is and you’re speedrunner enough.

Okay he did mention FO1 and 2, which is basically that.

But anyway, fresh IP from good rpg dev, can’t say i’m not excited for it.

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