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Floey, do games w Alan Wake, Control developer agrees €15m convertible loan from Tencent

If they need money honestly Tencent is better than a lot of the alternatives who might be willing to invest.

notaviking, do games w Alan Wake, Control developer agrees €15m convertible loan from Tencent

Yeah I feel there is a weird history between steam and remedy media. Like I remember when you could one day buy Alan Wake like really cheap since it was being taken off steam. Then the Epic deal making Alan Wake 2 exclusive basically meant they excluded a lot of customers immediately on steam.

NoMoreCocaine,

I know a guy who’s been working there for well over a decade, I wonder if he’s got any insights on this weird behavior they’ve been doing. He’s got no power over financial decisions, so it’s not likely he’s got any details.

notaviking,

I understand that Epic funded their project to be an Epic exclusive, but was that a financially sound decision excluding the major market place. Could they not have worked in like a two year or three year exclusive period

SwordInStone,

and who exactly have they excluded? aside from the steam deck users every steam user can easily use epic game store

batmaniam,

People who don’t want to use the epic store. That was me. I just don’t want another launcher, another account. I’ll get around to it at some point I’m sure but I didn’t buy AW2 and probably would have if it wasn’t an exclusive.

Kyrgizion, do games w Alan Wake, Control developer agrees €15m convertible loan from Tencent

Tencent will grow to become the anti-Steam, mark my words. They already have their grubby mitts all over devs worldwide, and every single one will live to regret it (or their players, at the very least).

slazer2au,

You say that like they don’t own a sizeable chunk of Epic.

acosmichippo,
@acosmichippo@lemmy.world avatar

exactly they are already doing it.

catloaf,

Not just games, movies too. And anything that gets Tencent money ends up with subtle pro-China propaganda.

thermal_shock,

they own WeChat too, China’s biggest chat app, also used for bill payment and government tracking.

AngryCommieKender,

I haven’t played in a few years, have they done any of that in EvE Online?

RageAgainstTheRich,

I’m not saying there isn’t, but do you have some examples of pro china propaganda in games and movies? I heard something about the live-action mulan movie being filmed in xinyang, but besides that i haven’t personally noticed anything.

wolfshadowheart,

It’s more about the scripts being given a passover of approval from the CCP. Want your movie in China? Usually, there’s some adaptation for the region, no big deal. However, I remember articles coming out about how the movie adaptation may not be accepted if the U.S. version doesn’t fit the standard, meaning the U.S. version would have changes made at the suggestion of the CCP.

Sorry for the NYT link, but it has some examples

RageAgainstTheRich,

Oh thankyou! Yeah that does make sense. That is pretty messed up.

CosmoNova,

It’s okay. The Fediverse assured me again and again it won’t matter how much Tencent owns of your company so as long as you “don’t think about them (Tencent)”. Whatever that means.

iAmTheTot, do games w Alan Wake, Control developer agrees €15m convertible loan from Tencent

That’s too bad.

Kayana, do games w Alan Wake, Control developer agrees €15m convertible loan from Tencent

Not only is that headline’s grammar exceptional(ly bad), for a moment I thought the developer of Control was named Alan Wake. Like, how did they manage to butcher that so badly?

iAmTheTot,

That’s a perfectly normal headline composition.

catloaf,

That doesn’t mean it’s good.

iAmTheTot,

Sure, but “good” is subjective. I had no confusion from the headline and like that it was direct and to the point.

Banichan,
@Banichan@dormi.zone avatar

I can tell you weren’t on newspaper staff

PoopingCough,

News headlines aren’t limited by space on physical paper anymore. If your headline is confusing because of traditions based on outdated limitations it’s not a good headline imo.

Banichan,
@Banichan@dormi.zone avatar

Your opinion doesn’t outweigh decades of an entire industry

PoopingCough,

K. Nor do industry traditions invalidate my opinion.

Banichan,
@Banichan@dormi.zone avatar

Your opinion has no bearing on the industry standard. Kick rocks, kid.

Tuuli,

That headline would have been rejected decades ago.

SpaceNoodle,

No, it doesn’t say “Control developer Alan Wake …”

thisisdee, (edited )

If that’s what they meant, there would have been a comma after “Control developer” I believe.

p03locke,
@p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

This is not the place for commas. This calls for a slash.

Alan Wake / Control developer agrees

Flamekebab, do gaming w 90s classic Little Big Adventure's lovely looking remake is out in November - And there's a limited-time demo on Steam
@Flamekebab@piefed.social avatar

I got excited and then I saw the new art style. I'm afraid I prefer the original art style - glorious isometric loveliness. The new one would be fine if the old one wasn't so gorgeous.

thingsiplay, do gaming w 90s classic Little Big Adventure's lovely looking remake is out in November - And there's a limited-time demo on Steam

Here is another such list of DRM-free games on Steam: pcgamingwiki.com/…/The_big_list_of_DRM-free_games…

Edit: I think this is an outdated version of the list. The following one is more up to date: pcgamingwiki.com/…/List_of_DRM-free_games_on_Stea…

Soup, do games w Crypto bros have discovered idle games, and the results are incredibly boring

Well this is a huge bummer. I like idle games. They distract from anxiety. And I have a lot of anxiety.

Mwa, do games w Crypto bros have discovered idle games, and the results are incredibly boring

ngl the third game art looks like a pokemon ripoff but the art is well made

ByteOnBikes,

As a shitty artist who dabbles in game dev, AI has helped dramatically with generating art assets that look professional

Mwa,

Oh but it looks self drawn tho

Emerald, do games w Crypto bros have discovered idle games, and the results are incredibly boring

Idk. I feel like I would like to upgrade Elon’s empathy.

SpraynardKruger,

I was just about to comment that it all makes sense now. Since Musk has no friends, he hasn’t unlocked empathy yet. Someone just needs to befriend the guy, somehow.

Zahille7,

somehow

TrueStoryBob,

Worse case scenario… you get a horse.

VirtualOdour,

Sometimes I day dream about what I’d say if I was elons friend. There are a lot of things.

Blackmist, do games w Crypto bros have discovered idle games, and the results are incredibly boring

That horrendous AI Muskthing will haunt my dreams…

Emerald,

Much ai generate. Very wow

xavier666, (edited ) do games w Crypto bros have discovered idle games, and the results are incredibly boring

One day, I’ll make a technology classifier which will take a small description of what a product is doing and will classify it as scam and what type of scam it is. It would also say if the technology is already exists or is a minor derivative.

Then the world will know peace.

brognak,

Kinda like that big infographic of logical fallacies. Honestly there seems to be a core set of like a dozen scams and everything from there is derivative more or less. Kinda love it when I hear of some actually clever way of stealing people’s money as opposed to just grift or obvious lies.

nossaquesapao,

I bet you will need a crypto-backed ai startup for that project!

/s

SynopsisTantilize, do games w Crypto bros have discovered idle games, and the results are incredibly boring

Lol my boss asked me if I knew how to build an EXE. I did not. So I spent a few days figuring it out with Visual Code. I build an idle game as my first game within a weekend. Man…low hanging fruit lol

ByteOnBikes,

That’s impressive!

I struggled with making my idle games interesting.

SynopsisTantilize,

My boss and I made a really fun fucked up story and it passed the time well

daniyeg, do games w Crypto bros have discovered idle games, and the results are incredibly boring

fuck notcoin that piece of shit legitimised all these other grifts. now they all are selling boosters with other cryptos with no sign of actual launch. crypto is cancer.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Really, crypto’s existence legitimized grifting.

Laser,

Which is a shame but not that surprising

Laser,

crypto is cancer.

I respectfully disagree. There are legitimate use cases do make sense. Of course, these don’t make tech bros rich quick so you don’t often hear about them.

One of them that I like the idea of is NanoGPT. It’s a frontend to various AI services where you pay per request instead of making accounts for each and pay with Nano. I haven’t used it yet, but the currency makes a lot of sense there, as it is feeless and requests can cost less than a cent.

Another one is Monero for goods and services that might be illicit under one’s jurisdiction. I don’t want to go into the discussion whether this is right or wrong; all I want to say is that laws can be nonsensical and dangerous.

squid_slime,

NanoGPT? What’s special about it? Is mining the nano coin used to create the AIs responses or is it just a crypto skin on top. If the latter we can self host AI.

But beyond that many dislike crypto for gas cost and same for AI so strapping them together is way less palatable.

Laser, (edited )

It’s just used as a means of payment for very small amounts, even less than a single cent if you calculate in dollars.

If the latter we can self host AI.

Sure you can; I certainly can’t, lacking the equipment, and the investment would be much higher than any return on it.

But beyond that many dislike crypto for gas cost and same for AI so strapping them together is way less palatable.

Nano, as I said, has no fees, and there’s no miners, it’s quite ecologically friendly. It does have other challenges (for example only being pseudonymous and fully traceable, plus fighting spam is an ongoing battle, no standard way of association a payment with an invoice). But I always liked its premise and it does make sense for such cases for me.

The beauty with how they implemented is that there’s no explicit about apart from a wallet address they create for you, saved in a cookie, so you can straight up use it.

I’m not trying to argue that this is somehow revolutionary or the right way to do it, but it manages to leverage the advantages quote well in my opinion.

squid_slime,

So if I made a confident AI and hosted it on a website you could visit, you buy my tokens $5 for 5 tokens, responses priced at .01 tokens. Essentially its very cheap.

Would you be as likely to use this service?

Laser,

I mean if it’s competitive, why not?

The thing is it’s unlikely you’d find a payment provider making this viable. For example, PayPal charges 49 US cents as a minimum fee, or 39 Eurocents. Even just credit card companies charge 5 cents fixed, so cheap payment processors will charge you about 10 cents per transaction plus variable rates and possibly a monthly fee.

squid_slime,

True but these companies are gate keeper that also work with fiet to crypto so its just moving the issue. If I want to convert my British pounds I will be charged even if I sent it physically. How do you buy nano coin?

Laser, (edited )

It’s true that you need to factor in the conversion fees. The same however is true, maybe for a smaller fee, when converting between fiat currencies, though my bank is usually pretty fair. Other providers - again PayPal being an offender and often ATM operators - will often have worse rates.

NanoGPT itself doesn’t sell crypto I think, they include sellers for convenience. I provided mine years ago on Kraken which is a market exchange.

For testing, I just transferred 0.1 XNO to them, which arrived basically instantly without fees, it was credited to the wallet before I switched back windows to my browser.

I’ll try a prompt and get back here if you want? I mean this is not really the core of the discussion but for completion’s sake…

Edit: I created this with the Flux Pro model (the most expensive one I think) for about 0.1 XNO: AI result of “A close-up view of a girl looking through a wall of glass with her right hand touching the glass wall. Behind the glass wall, there’s space with stars visible. The glass wall is slightly cracked, creating a prism of light.”

squid_slime,

So entry cost is the kicker, like for myself I don’t have any crypto, or at least crypto I can access (lost my monero keys) so for me to use nano I would still need to face conversion fees.

Tbh I hear about speeds but I’ve not had issues of slow transfers when it comes to fiat.

Sure, is it comparable to open AIs chatgpt?

Laser, (edited )

If you want, I’ll send you some to an address of your choosing; you can just use nault.cc as a wallet.

Due to how the site works, you can choose what model etc. they have without ever sending them any money.

like for myself I don’t have any crypto, or at least crypto I can access (lost my monero keys)

Didn’t we all? Nobody warned me of the dangers of boating

squid_slime,

Lol that picture is good but the little girl has a baby hand. That’s very nice of you but I won’t deprive you of your coins, another time maybe

Laser,

Lol that picture is good but the little girl has a baby hand.

I’ve seen presidents with smaller hands… anyhow, NanoGPT doesn’t run the models themselves, they have professional accounts for the models with the respective providers and basically resell access in per request amounts without an account or anything (your account is just a wallet address, no name or email required). I just wanted to showcase something where cryptocurrency can actually fill a niche.

That’s very nice of you but I won’t deprive you of your coins, another time maybe

All good, I still keep to the idea of cryptocurrency as a decentralized currency for the internet and have no issue with tipping some away if people actually engage in discussion honestly

explodicle,
@explodicle@sh.itjust.works avatar

Nano is a scam. They mined all the coins up front, and then told the most gullible rubes in the universe that everyone else had to fill out CAPTCHAs too.

Laser,

Nano wasn’t mined, it was all created at inception, and as you correctly said distributed via CAPTCHA; this was to disincentivize or stop people running bots to claim it automatically. After the distribution period ended, the Nano foundation burned undistributed coins minus an amount that they kept to ensure further development. This fund ran out in 2023 if I’m not mistaken. It’s now being developed by volunteers.

Do you know a better idea how such an initial airdrop would be done?

explodicle,
@explodicle@sh.itjust.works avatar

www.investopedia.com/terms/p/premining.asp

You are one of those suckers if you believe every distributed coin was solved by a CAPTCHA. The centralized(!) foundation pinky promises that they didn’t sock puppet ten times as many suckers at launch, and then keep a controlling share of stake permanently.

A better way to do the initial “airdrop” is to not do centralized issuance at all, because anyone would be a complete fool to trust any crypto foundation.

Laser,

What would be a controlling share with Nano? The largest representatives according to voting weight were the exchanges last time I checked, which would imply most of the currency is in “circulation” as in no longer held by the foundation. And even then, voting weight doesn’t grant you an immediate advantage in Nano, as there’s no staking.

So I mean, while I can’t prove that the foundation held now coins than they claimed, I’m unaware that there was ever a sign of them actually doing so.

A better way to do the initial “airdrop” is to not do centralized issuance at all, because anyone would be a complete fool to trust any crypto foundation.

It has to come from somewhere, right? How would you fairly distribute coins that aren’t mined?

Anyhow, I’m not here to shill the coin, the ones I bought I bought off an exchange long after the original issuance and all I wanted to show was an example for a good technical solution. Not perfect mind you, just something of which I thought is a positive example where it’s just used as a means of payment.

explodicle,
@explodicle@sh.itjust.works avatar

What would be a controlling share with Nano?

51%

The largest representatives according to voting weight were the exchanges last time I checked

Which is irrelevant because holders can just choose different representatives.

So I mean, while I can’t prove that the foundation held more coins than they claimed, I’m unaware that there was ever a sign of them actually doing so.

The sign is them creating a design that expects this tremendous amount of trust. It’s extremely conspicuous to create a vulnerability that only the foundation can exploit, that can go undetected if they don’t make a huge mistake.

It has to come from somewhere, right? How would you fairly distribute coins that aren’t mined?

You can’t fairly distribute a premine. Don’t use coins with premines.

I’m glad you’re not here to shill Nano, but it is a scam and you are promoting it.

Laser,

Can’t make it right for everyone… Some people will complain about mining and the energy consumption (Bitcoin is supposed to currently use about 850 kWh per transaction), others complain about a supposedly unfair premine. They didn’t even hold an ICO.

51%

That’s not currently a required percentage, you need 67% of votes to confirm a transaction. Which in turn means 33% are enough to stall the network. But even then, what would their gain be, apart from owning more of their own currency?

Which is irrelevant because holders can just choose different representatives.

You can, but then you can no longer vote. And if you can’t vote, holding Nano does nothing.

I don’t think there’s a cryptocurrency today that comes without downsides, be it high resource usage, lack of anonymity or others, if they’re not straight up money grabs and a copy paste of another random junk on ETH. Bitcoin is not an option for me because of the monster mining has become - I don’t blame Satoshi, this is something I didn’t expect either, but it’s insanity currently.

explodicle,
@explodicle@sh.itjust.works avatar

That’s whataboutism - a low carbon footprint doesn’t change whether or not Nano is a scam. My Excel spreadsheet has an even lower carbon footprint than the AI you’re pitching here. If they own a large enough majority to control the network, then they can keep dictate policy or favor their own blocks for free money.

Laser,

It’s ok dude, I’m not trying to sway you. I’m not invested into the topic enough to defend something against theoretical and unsubstantiated claims. Use what you want or don’t

explodicle,
@explodicle@sh.itjust.works avatar

I’m warning potential readers about the scam you’re promoting. If you don’t care, then stop.

If a cryptocurrency involves trusting a central foundation at any point, it’s a scam. It’s an unnecessary security hole, and one would be damn foolish to invest in it just because the hole remains unused.

Mwa,

crypto is cancer. odysee is actually a crypto video sharing website that uses it for videos and their currency it has some far right problems tho

ikidd, do games w Crypto bros have discovered idle games, and the results are incredibly boring
@ikidd@lemmy.world avatar

That fucking site’s cookie banner can suck my rectum. Not even going to bother.

sjmulder,

Why do they have one at all if they’re going to blatantly not comply

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