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Konstant, do gaming w You wouldn't self-host a game server

You wouldn’t buy a game, and keep it forever.

007ace, do games w Does anyone else find it suspicious that there wasn't any criticism on here about Stop Killing Games until after it hit 1.4M signatures?
@007ace@lemmy.ca avatar

I saw it posted on here much before it reached the threshold. I think that before then it was really just a few people running with it, now that it has gotten momentum, more people are sharing and we run in similar circles so it can appear to be overwhelming.

szymon,

This

So much internet space wasted for mundane thing,

Is This petition even automatic to get to the board of European Commission or European leaders?

If not, then it’s waste of time,

Also I have zero knowledge about European Legislation, to be honest so I maybe in wrong

givesomefucks,

Pretty sure:

  1. Yes, this is a legit thing the EU cares about. However that’s also why I’ve always wondered why they’re soliciting signatures outside the EU…
  2. Didn’t it come out that the people who pushed payroll processors to force studios to censor, have been found out to be a bunch of far right religious extremists who definitely aren’t going to stop here.
Skua,

There is also a UK petition, which has itself cleared the required threshold. Are those the out-of-EU signatures you mean?

givesomefucks,

It’s possible there’s multiple out there

I just at one point also wondered what the point of a petition was because I’m a jaded American

pivot_root,
vk6flab, do games w What's a video game that can run on any sort of device?(besides doom and pong)
@vk6flab@lemmy.radio avatar

Solitaire, 2048, Chess, Zork

AmidFuror,

Came here to write Zork.

stoly, do games w Does anyone else find it suspicious that there wasn't any criticism on here about Stop Killing Games until after it hit 1.4M signatures?

Are people criticizing it? There is a certain critical mass that when something becomes popular enough a subset of the population will automatically oppose it.

hoshikarakitaridia,
@hoshikarakitaridia@lemmy.world avatar

There’s also a threshold where Industry Groups will start astroturfing. Especially when it comes to worker’s rights or consumer’s rights.

a_jackal,

It seems like it’s a bit too late now to start astroturfing this though

Dultas,

It’s a fine line because if you do it too early you’ll just add more attention to it. They probably predicted it would stall out.

SalamenceFury, do games w Stop Killing Games reaches its goal of 1.4M signatures, covering the risk of valid signatures going under 1M
@SalamenceFury@lemmy.world avatar

Hope every gaming company out there is sweating buckets at this. This is a matter of consumer rights.

4am,

We don’t want them to sweat, we just want them to do the right thing by their customers

Melvin_Ferd,

The only way I see that happen is having the tools and ability to pirate any and all media like we had back in the napster days. That’s the only time I’ve ever seen these companies scared. A petition I don’t think will do much. Plus not only is there this issue. There is also the issue of groups now targeting the way funding works like on steam. Payment processes are now being used to apply pressure where certain groups do not like the content.

The solution was always to defend and protect the people who cracked and pirated content. But I think they were all locked up and threatened.

AgentRocket,

A petition I don’t think will do much.

This isn’t just any regular change.org petition, that can be ignored. It’s an official partition based on EU rules, where EU parliament is forced by law to listen to the initiators and talk about the topic, when it passes.

Melvin_Ferd,

Ok but is there any group or lobbyists who are advocating or will this just be a petition sent to them which they can just ignore.

eatyourglory,

The European Parliament legally cannot ignore it.

Signtist,
@Signtist@bookwyr.me avatar

To what extent do they have to talk about it, though? Can they address it, come to the conclusion that it's infeasible (while subtly tucking millions of dollars from game companies into their pockets), and consider the matter settled? I understand that governments are meant to keep corporations in check to benefit the people, but functionally they keep the people in check to benefit corporations and their "lobbyists" (bribes).

MisterFrog,
@MisterFrog@lemmy.world avatar

These two things overlap under capitalism, as doing right by your customers is only required if not doing right by your customers affects your profits.

We definitely want them to sweat.

Korkki,

They hire like two lobbyists with 100k of splurge money and this won’t pass, for sure.

If voting or filling a petition changed anything they would make it illegal.

Melvin_Ferd,

By the way, the left could have done this for any number of issues in the past but refused to.

Like how hard would it have been if everyone who showed up to a George Floyd protest instead donated to some fund that then went to paying a lobbyist/think tank to work for them in Washington to change laws and make sure the police officers and department actually saw justice.

EncryptKeeper,

Are you a bot

Melvin_Ferd,

Are you

Korkki,

donated to some fund that then went to paying a lobbyist/think tank to work for them

It would be more effective to get a quarter of 1.4 million people organized with united demands and on the streets of Brussels with the actual risk of projecting threat violence on EU bureaucrats, then StopKillingGames or any petition or demand would have a much better chance of passing. At that point you wouldn’t even need collect any names before hand :) All the voting, all the petitions all the representation only exists to act as an filter and push the little people people and their little people idea’s far away from actual power as possible.

I’ll be positively surprised if this passes, but I really really really doubt it. Too much money at stake here just for the sake of having some pro consumer common sense.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

The EU has gotten us pro consumer common sense a number of times already, like with iPhones and the GDPR.

Melvin_Ferd,

There is no way that you believe people showing up in streets would do anything lol

That’s what the powerful hope we do. It’s the most useless action possible. It’s like trying to boil water by breathing hot air on it. You’ll get tired way before you get any boiling.

mnemonicmonkeys,

You literally couldn’t be more wrong

Melvin_Ferd,

Yea whose the president?

We’ve had more protests in the past 10 years than any other time. None of them have accomplished much of anything.

You’d be lying to say otherwise. I’m sure you’ll try to find some policy or law that was implemented that nobody listens to as proof of action.

You can’t tell me there’s a global protest like George Floyd or no Kings and the result was what?? What the fuck did any of it accomplish. Insanity to continue with the idea that protests are doing anything other than given the opportunity to arrest thought leaders and kick in the heads of everything else.

You’re literally throwing bodies against an armed and trained force that watches you all protest like referees at a hockey game before they come in and break it all up. I’ve watched countless protests where the protesters are herded like cattle into pens before getting busted up. There’s no way you can tell me honestly that the authorities aren’t in love with the idea of you all showing up against their armed and trained forces. The left is doomed. It’s not just the Democrats who do these performative actions with no results. It’s all of the left.

SalamenceFury,
@SalamenceFury@lemmy.world avatar

The EU is not swayed by this kind of thing easily.

M0oP0o,
@M0oP0o@mander.xyz avatar

America brain, Its like they think everyone is in the same dystopia as them.

kadaverin0,

You know the guy who started this petition is an American, right?

M0oP0o,
@M0oP0o@mander.xyz avatar

I was under the impression that Ross Scott lived in Poland, but what does that matter its an EU and UK initiative.

kadaverin0,

Do you really not see the irony of shitting on Americans while simultaneously praising the efforts of one?

M0oP0o,
@M0oP0o@mander.xyz avatar

No, I can shit on americans in general and praise one quite easily. And besides this one got better.

kadaverin0,

Ah, so you can be a xenophobic shithead while still liking an outsider because he assimilated to your culture. Got it.

kibiz0r, do games w Does anyone else find it suspicious that there wasn't any criticism on here about Stop Killing Games until after it hit 1.4M signatures?

I made some critical posts about it several months ago. It was exhausting. So I stopped. Haven’t changed my position though.

RageAgainstTheRich, do games w Steam is cracking down on porn games, to keep Payment Processors happy.

They want to that bad? Why not remove those payment options for those games? There are a load of other payment options besides VISA and Mastercard…

XTL,

That’s not the threat. Payment processor says they have to form their entire store according to their whims or lose all credit card using customers.

SheeEttin, do games w What's a video game that can run on any sort of device?(besides doom and pong)

Any sort of device? Well, to run a game, at a minimum there must be some kind of input and output, but not necessarily any storage. I think the one that could run on the most would be one that requires only one button for input, and one LED for output, that just tests your reflexes. It would have to read out your time by counting out flashes. You could also have a Simon-like game, with pattern memorization.

barnaclebutt, do gaming w You wouldn't self-host a game server

Fun fact, they pirated the font. What a bunch of assholes. Stop killing games.

Jax, do games w FromSoftware reportedly has another unannounced game that ‘could release next year’

I would believe a Bloodborne remaster was coming before Bloodborne 2.

Please. Please I have been waiting for years to play it on PC.

MasterNerd,

You could emulate it if your PC’s powerful enough

Jax,

I admit it’s been a while since I checked in on the progress towards emulation, is it actually playable now?

cyberpunk007,

Didn’t bother on my much more powerful PC, but it’s playable on the steam deck… Just a bit rough last time I tried.

skulblaka, do gaming w 'Cause I wonder where you are
@skulblaka@sh.itjust.works avatar
SkybreakerEngineer,

Perfect for blaring from your Chupathungy while committing vehicular homicide

PleaseLetMeOut, do gaming w You wouldn't self-host a game server

COD4 and CS:S private servers… oh how I miss you both </3

modernangel, do games w Stop Killing Games reaches its goal of 1.4M signatures, covering the risk of valid signatures going under 1M
@modernangel@sh.itjust.works avatar

If only someone could garner that much support for StopKillingGazans amirite

MisterFrog,
@MisterFrog@lemmy.world avatar

There’s arguably much more support for that, than stopkillinggames.

But the political opposition to stopkillinggames is far less.

Allero,

Easy to gather, but will likely be ignored, sadly.

mrductape,

The whole Gaza situation is a wasp’s nest that nobody should poke without knowing damn sure what they are doing. There are multiple big players playing chess with other people’s life there, and you could lose a lot.

But given the complexity the chance that the situation is resolved and thus something is won is very small.

Yes, it’s terrible what is happening. But unless you have a lot of resources and a big army you are not in a position to muscle all the parties involved into submission, which is what will be required at this point.

IndiBrony, do gaming w Steam is cracking down on porn games, to keep Payment Processors happy.
@IndiBrony@lemmy.world avatar

Come on, Steam, it’s time to create your own payment method! There are plenty of people who want their wincest!

slazer2au,

The problem becomes how do you get your money from your account into steams.

Making a payment platform isn’t as easy as it sounds. There are significant rules regarding payment processing which is why there are so few of them.

Walk_blesseD,

It does have its own payment method: steam gift cards

XTL,

It’s not so much the having or adding a method but losing one that a lot of your (potential) customers use.

Tattorack, do gaming w Is that a mod on the device that you own?
@Tattorack@lemmy.world avatar

Oh no! Not the vile, vicious Nintenazi!

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