And it’s perfectly reasonable for people to ask “why don’t you want to buy a game sweetbaby worked on?”
For example: I won’t purchase a game produced by Blizzard. If someone asked me why I wouldn’t evade the question by saying “I am free to do so, that is my choice.” I will happily tell them it’s because of how poorly they treat their employees, and how they actively make games worse to try to squeeze more money out of people. The entire point of a boycott is to inform people why this company should be boycotted.
All this dancing around answering the very simple question of “why do you actively want to avoid purchasing a game SBI worked on” speaks volumes as to how generally unacceptable that reason must be. Makes it look like people are afraid to “say the quiet part of loud.” Why else would they not just answer the question?
It’s not a plugin, and as far as I know it uses publicly available information.
I just don’t understand the use case. So people look for a game they’d like to try, then go and check that list, then go back and purchase the game if it’s not on the list? Why? If they make games bad the reviews will tell you the game is bad.
i have said it its in the fucking comments you just need to read like i already told you.
And, to repeat myself: I have. All I’ve seen are deflections, and vague statements that the company does bad work with nothing to back it up or to clarify why their work specifically requires a curated list instead of just reading reviews and avoiding poor quality games. (see how easy that was to copy and paste?)
sweet baby is a superficial performative hollow fake company
So what is the need for the curated list? If the company doesn’t do anything useful that’s on developers to not use them. If the company makes games bad that’s what reviews are for and I won’t buy games that are bad, I don’t need to cross reference my purchases with a 3rd party list to avoid poor quality games. If they work on a game that isn’t bad why should I take the advice of this list to not purchase it?
I keep asking you to make a clear direct statement which you are purposely refusing to do. So that just leaves me to guess at what that reason could possibly be that you don’t want to say it out loud.
what is the fucking point
If you’re not going to say anything then what is the fucking point of replying? It would take just as much effort to “repeat yourself” and prove my questions are as disingenuous as you claim.
I have. All I’ve seen are deflections, and vague statements that the company does bad work with nothing to back it up or to clarify why their work specifically requires a curated list instead of just reading reviews and avoiding poor quality games.
i m not going to repeat myself on what the issue is.
Seems like it would have been trivial to copy past if it had already been made clear.
maybe you can show us sources and proof
Of what? That nobody is making a clear statement as to what the issue is with SBI? Okay, here’s one source that implies SBI is bad but gives no reasons as to why: …steampowered.com/…/44858017-Sweet-Baby-Inc-detec…
I am not arguing that SBI is good, I’m trying to get a clear argument as to why SBI is bad and keep hitting brick walls. I don’t know what type of “source” you expect for that other than gestures broadly at the comments.
and the point is that sweet baby is shit company that does shit work that makes games worse
There’s lots of shit companies that make shit games. I don’t need a curated list of shit games do be able to avoid them, I can look at reviews and even get a refund through Steam. What makes SBI special such that reviews and refunds are insufficient to be able to avoid poor quality games?
that’s the whole point you make it before you buy because you cant always tell on what game they worked because they don’t make the game.
But why should I care so much if this company was involved in a game? If the game is bad the reviews will reflect that, I don’t see the reason for checking an extra source to see if this company was involved or not. Let the games stand on their own.
if you really want sources use some yourself first
“This company does bad work! Everyone needs to avoid anything they’ve work on!”
“Okay… can you give me some examples of their bad work?”
“No! First YOU prove that the work they are trying to do is good!”
How hard you work to deflect the conversation speaks volumes towards what the real issue is here.
I tried going to the Sweet Baby Inc detected page to see what the actual issue is but nothing is explained. Just a list of games and the comment “SBI worked on this.”
Why should I care? It’s never explained. You say they do bad work, and when I ask for an example you give a long winded no. For someone who feels so passionately about them being bad you are very reluctant to actually back up your claims.
You are upset that I “mischaracterize[d] what the argument is really about” but it is impossible to find any direct statements as to what the argument is really about. Any clear statements of the curation page would help prevent “mischaracterization”, but people are twisting themselves in knots in order to not make direct statements.
I have no strong opinions about SBI, I could be convinced that they are bad and best avoided, but nobody wants to present any actual arguments no matter how much people ask. Makes it really sound like a group of people too afraid to say the quiet part out loud because it wouldn’t be acceptable.
sweet baby does never make there own games they leech of other peoples games and get payed for it.
You mean games hire them for a service? Lots of games do that. I’ve yet to see any example of the service they provide being bad.
and not that you want to shove your political agenda into places where it does not belong
Do you have any direct examples instead of just names of games (screenshots, quotes, etc)? What specific"political agenda" is being pushed, and is this falling into the pit of “everything is politics, but this is politics I don’t like?”
games have always been inclusive
That’s just a lie. It’s always telling when on Steam discussion pages I see people complaining that they can’t customize their character and to play a certain class they have to be female or a minority, as if for 99% of games the protagonist doesn’t have to be a white male. “I feel included so it’s inclusive.”
its also bad to mischaracterize what the argument is really about.
When trying to get a direct answer as to what the argument is really about is like pulling teeth, then people are going to misunderstand. Even in your post you’ve provided no sources to show that Sweet Baby lowers the quality of games, but you *do" complain about inclusivity. So the only “fact” that I can actually pull away from your post is that you don’t like them because of their focus on inclusivity. You say it’s because it makes the games worse, but you have shown no evidence of that.