james, 10 miesięcy temu

@ssamulczyk @cycling @rower Can you legally cycle on the pavement in Poland (I know you had the kids with you, I mean when you cycle as an adult)?

viq, 10 miesięcy temu

@james @ssamulczyk @cycling @rower It's aqualified "no" - you can if there's no bike path and the speed limit on road is 50+ km/h and "you are afraid" of driving on road, IIRC.

ssamulczyk, 10 miesięcy temu

@viq I think it was about being a supervising parent also on a bicycle. @james @cycling @rower

james, 10 miesięcy temu

@ssamulczyk @viq @cycling @rower Yeah, of course. It‘s different with kids.

ssamulczyk, 10 miesięcy temu

@james With kids - my best guess would be it’s not legal, but most of the people, including the polce do not mind, unless you are being deliberately reckless. @viq @cycling @rower

viq, 10 miesięcy temu

@ssamulczyk @james @cycling @rower Admittedly I've also gotten a reaction from police of "come on, really? At least don't do it in my sight, now go on, get out of here" for cycling across pedestrian crossing, which very explicitly is illegal.

ssamulczyk, 10 miesięcy temu

@viq Haha… I’ve had some reactions on running on red lights, but I rarely do that. If any, most of the times I skip those patches of accidental bike roads I’m supposed to be forced to be on, because of the shear inconvenience of getting on them just to get off them in like 50-100 meters… @james @cycling @rower

james, 10 miesięcy temu

@ssamulczyk @viq @cycling @rower Oh yes, it’s so useless. When numerous projects come together that were planned and built in times, you feel like your road surface and type changes every 30 seconds. 🙄

james, 10 miesięcy temu

@viq @ssamulczyk @cycling @rower Seeing this in a positive light: it seems at least the police cares.

viq, 10 miesięcy temu

@james @ssamulczyk @cycling @rower Or at least "low social damage" "("niska szkodliwość społeczna czynu") and accept that yeah, there's no bike path here, so come on, let's be real.
Poles have a well established tradition of rules being just guidelines really.

ssamulczyk, 10 miesięcy temu

@viq My trick is to choose routes with no cycling paths. In the „season” I feel safer with the cars than with a bunch of sunday cyclists…🤷🏻‍♂️ @james @cycling @rower

james, 10 miesięcy temu

@ssamulczyk @viq @cycling @rower What’s wrong with cycling at 8 kph? 🤣

ssamulczyk, 10 miesięcy temu

@james At this point I’d prefere walking…🤡 Usually I don’t have time to go that slow…🤣 @viq @cycling @rower

james, 10 miesięcy temu

@ssamulczyk @viq @cycling @rower When the cycling speed is as low as physics rather let you fall off the bike.

viq, 10 miesięcy temu

@ssamulczyk @james @cycling @rower Yeah, I believe that's another condition, I was commenting about the question of "when can adult without company of kids bike on a sidewalk".

james, 10 miesięcy temu

@viq @ssamulczyk @cycling @rower So it‘s a yes maybe because the exceptions seem more flexible than in Germany.
Here it‘s like:
Bicycle sign: MUST USE cycle lane/path/pagement wherever the sign refers to.
No sign: MUST use road.

I like to see this more flexible here too.

ssamulczyk, 10 miesięcy temu

@james @cycling @rower The polish law is a bit blurry on that. Childen under 10 on bicycles are considered pedestrians and have to be supervised by an adult (cannot use bike lane either). I think the code doesn’t say anything on the supervising adult being also on the bike. Never been stopped, though.

As a sole adult, there are special terms on which you can find yourself on the pavement legally (weather/speed limit/pavement width combo), but I’d still probably chose not to do that.

james, 10 miesięcy temu

@ssamulczyk @cycling @rower When your group consist of two parents and kid(s) under 10, one parents can use the pavement with the kids, the other MUST USE the road if there‘s no cycle sign. Seems funny here, eh? 🇩🇪