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FluffyPotato, w Lies of P quietly adds Denuvo DRM to PC version

Isn’t that illegal in quite a few European countries? I vaguely remember something about 3th party software requirements needing to be disclosed some amount of time before release.

xep, (edited ) w Lies of P quietly adds Denuvo DRM to PC version

The DRM was added right as the game’s 72-hour early access period started, which is included as part of Lies of P‘s Deluxe Edition.

The actual work done to integrate Denuvo was far before release, of course, but it feels a bit sneaky to disclose the DRM as late as possible. I wonder if this is how it's disclosed for other games as well.

The_Helmet_Stays_On, w Lies of P quietly adds Denuvo DRM to PC version

Welp…that’s another one added to the “wait until it’s removed” list

Syldon,
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I won’t touch nothing with Denuvo on it.

Thranduil,

So you will touch everything with denuvo on it? Since that was a double negative

Pat,

More like added to the list of "wait till pirates fix it"

Will happen sooner than it being officially removed.

Polar, (edited )

That’s cool, but some people prefer to buy their games. To either show support, to track their hours/achievements, or the biggest one is to easily receive updates without having to scavenge the web to find an update patch.

irmoz,

You can do all that pirated too, no scavenging needed

Polar,

That’s cool, but some people prefer to buy their games. To either show support

Solarius,

“Show support” sounds like you only care about showing the game off to others on your steam profile. you can pirate and still buy merch if have the overwhelming need to not feel morally bad. the devs got paid, denuvo publishers don’t deserve anything.

Polar,

Or, you can buy products. If you don’t like what they do, just don’t buy them.

I am not even defending Denuvo. I will not be buying this game. Pirating it also supports them, because if you talk about the game, show your friends, stream it, upload screenshots/videos, etc, you’re potentially getting others, who refuse to pirate, to buy the game.

If you don’t like what the company is doing, don’t play it.

irmoz,

You can show support without buying the game. Indie devs often have patreons or donation links these days

Angry_Zombie,

I think they’re talking about the performance hit denuvo adds to a game

papabobolious,

Supporting devs is good, but supporting a denuvo game is also showing that you will tolerate such overbearing DRM

Mnemnosyne,

People shouldn’t show support for companies that are willing to use this shit.

Also fuck updates. I hate that effect of the Internet on games, where they just keep updating, which also leads to increased laziness on release. I miss the days when you got a game and that was it, what you had was what you had, never to change again unless they release an expansion pack.

gk99,

And without the context that these devs just added Denuvo to their game, you might have a point. They shouldn’t be supported for fucking consumers, time can be tracked by adding as a non-Steam game, and by the point they remove Denuvo, the patches probably won’t be rolling in anymore.

Personally, I don’t pirate, so this is where I’d buy grey market or used on console. They wanna be dicks, I’m gonna be a dick right back.

red,

They don’t remove it just because it would sell more later on, they remove it because it’s a big licensing cost that will stop being profitable once most sales have happened.

My point is; if the publisher used Denovo, just don’t be buy the game ever.

Sharpiemarker,

Agreed

Glide,

The good news is once it’s removed, you can just pirate it.

Fuck Denuvo.

ZC3rr0r, w Unity will start charging developers each time their game is installed

Alternative title: Unity about to get sued into settlement or bankruptcy due to legal fees by Nintendo, Sony, and a bunch of others over unilaterally announced installation fee.

BCsven, w Unity will start charging developers each time their game is installed

Next will be subscription service to end userto run unity games

xtremeownage, w Unity will start charging developers each time their game is installed

Well, nice knowing you unity…

ILikeBoobies, w Unity will start charging developers each time their game is installed

Seems weird with how friendly Unreal and Godots deals are

You’d think they would be competing with that

conorab, w Unity will start charging developers each time their game is installed

I’m surprised it’s not per-seat or per-user. Not like the dev is getting more money if the user re-installs the game. Also not a fan of it being monthly. I get why you would charge twice if the user installs it twice since you may not be able to track concurrent installs without DRM, but that should only apply if you choose a per-install licence. Per-install also opens you up to malicious users installing/uninstalling to make you pay.

There should be a per-seat/per-user perpetual price if the dev never updates the Unity engine itself. I get charging per-seat/per-user monthly if they devs are pulling in new versions, but that should stop if you cease updating.

Came here after a friend linked me to this: twitter.com/stephentotilo/…/1701679721027633280

LostWon, w Unity will start charging developers each time their game is installed

WTF. Luckily it isn’t an issue for me right now, but I guess I won’t be using Unity in future like I once thought I might.

I couldn’t find it in the article, but I assume this is only going forward and not somehow retroactive? Lots of amazing indie titles I’ve played run on Unity.

Jakeroxs,

It is just going forward starting Jan 1 I think

LostWon,

If so, at least anyone whose project was completed beforehand can be grandfathered out of the new arrangement.

That really sucks for new projects, though. A few months is not going to be enough time for a lot of projects out there.

dandi8,

AFAIK this applies retroactively.

LostWon,

Unfortunately, I was just coming back to comment this myself, and link this: gamingonlinux.com/…/unity-attempt-to-clarify-new-…

gravitas_deficiency, (edited ) w Unity will start charging developers each time their game is installed

A few cents of 0 downloads is $0 lolololololol

Also, I don’t expect a unilateral and very one-sided payment and service contract modification is going to stand up in court.

ono, w Unity will start charging developers each time their game is installed

I look forward to the incoming crop of games made with Godot.

hal_5700X, w Unity will start charging developers each time their game is installed
@hal_5700X@lemmy.world avatar

RIP Unity. First they partnered with Ironsource. Who are the people behind InstallCore it’s a wrapper for bundling software installations. It tricks people into installing enough browser toolbars and other bloat to hurt their PCs. Windows Defender and MalwareBytes blocks it. Now Unity does this shit.

moormaan, w This is the Lenovo Legion Go Gaming Handheld (First Official Images)

Good luck to Lenovo and all the others, but the Steam Deck has changed my life and it’s such a versatile and magical device for a modest price, and Windows-free to boot, that I’m not even considering any of these other ones.

xpinchx, w Weekend PC Game Deals: Focused specials, stealth bundles, and free heists

Deceive inc is pretty fun with friends.

Syldon, w Weekend PC Game Deals: Focused specials, stealth bundles, and free heists
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Busy playing Shadow tactics: blades of the shogun ATM. I have Aiko’s choice already, but haven’t opened it yet. The series comes highly recommended in reviews. Blades of the shogun hasn’t disappointed so far. Just a very slow moving game that you pick up to fill in a bit of time.

I used to love the NFS series. I really wish they would remove that 3rd party DRM. It is nothing but spyware IMO.

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