nicman24,

huh that is weird, it worked great on my hardware. never would have guessed it had denuvo

weirdo_from_space,

What do you mean? It’s been removed in launch 🙃

redcalcium, (edited )

I actually had this game installed on my steam library and run strings ‘DOOMEternalx64vk.exe’ | grep ‘denuvo’ before I update it. Turns out it did has denuvo_dl and denuvo_atd which is a telltale of the executable having denuvo drm. After installing the update, it no longer have them. Given the performance of the game, I didn’t expect it has denuvo.

Edit: just finished reading the article you linked. lmao

Blackmist,

That’s because Denuvo doesn’t typically ruin performance.

Do gamers really think that devs send the game to Denuvo running 60 fps, get it back running at 30fps and go “that’s OK”? They’d be up in arms.

Here a video from when Doom Eternal leaked without Denuvo early on.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8FRqaZAxWo

The performance difference is a rounding error in a game that doesn’t even have a benchmark suite for accurate testing.

redcalcium, (edited )

Too bad I can’t confirm if it’s actually running faster myself because I just changed my gpu from GTX 1650 to RTX A2000. But even with the highest settings my gpu can handle (if I maxed out everything, the game crash due to running out of vram which is only 6GB), with ray tracing enabled and dlss set to quality, it run on my old hardware with cpu from 2014 (i7-4790) at max fps my monitor can handle (2560×1080 75fps), which is super impressive.

Maestro,
@Maestro@kbin.social avatar

Cool! I got this in the summer sale but haven't had time to play it yet (I finished Doom 2016 first). I didn't know it had Denuvo DRM. Is there an easy way to check my library for Denuvo games?

query,

So, GOG release soon?

sugar_in_your_tea,

Cool, maybe I’ll play it now.

TastyWheat,

It’s an absolute classic IMO.

mojo,

That’s the point. Denuvo states that their goal is to prevent piracy the first couple of months while the game is hot, so people cave into buying more. Then after a certain amount of time they remove it because it’s not longer needed and will get cracked at that point.

ooterness,

“First couple of months”!? Doom Eternal was released March 2020.

JohnEdwa,
@JohnEdwa@kbin.social avatar

That's how denuvo is supposed to be used, doesn't mean it is how publishers do use it. The moment the game is cracked denuvo stops being useful. Doom Eternal actually launched with a drm free exe as mistake in the first place so it's never been very useful :p

SatyrSack,

“mistake”

redcalcium,

Doom Eternal did release two major DLCs though, which might explain why they’re keeping denuvo for so long. I’m going to try the game again later to see if it’s running even smoother without denuvo.

query, (edited )

DRM is what keeps me from buying. And makes we want to wait until there are significant discounts, to not do too much to help them pay for the implementation of DRM.

TigrisMorte,

This is the way.
Plus you get to buy it at the sale they always have immediately after removing the performance killer.

Nioxic,

Denuvo has a high monthly cost (several thousand dollars, iirc)

This is why they always remove it eventually.

Heres an example

www.overclock3d.net/news/software/…/1

what the DRM’s typical pricing structure looks like. It calls for a flat protection fee of 126,000-140,000 Euros for the first 12 months, 2,000 Euros each month following the first 12 months, an additional 60,000€ flat fee in case the game sees more than 500,000 activations in 30 days, a 0.40€ surcharge on activations on the WeGame platform, and 10,000€ for each additional storefront (if the game is being sold in more than one online storefront platform).

narc0tic_bird,

Can’t say it performed bad with Denovu though. Obviously still the right thing to remove it for so many other reasons.

520,

id has always been a crack team of developers where performance is concerned. The fact that it was possible to get Eternal running on Switch says a lot.

H2207,

Now can everyone else do the same please.

NightOwl,

Steam Deck rejoices with better offline support.

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