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kalkulat, w NASA rover discovers liquid water 'ripples' carved into Mars rock — and it could rewrite the Red Planet's history
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Water scouring the surface? Or was it thousands years of wind-blown sand / dust? Dunes have ripples.

There is no water on Mars (not to be confused with liquid CO2) until somebody goes there and drinks some. Anything else is hoping for water to justify the $100billion price tag.

fossilesque,
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Read the article. This is from water that no longer exists on Mars.

bane_killgrind, w NASA rover discovers liquid water 'ripples' carved into Mars rock — and it could rewrite the Red Planet's history

This is cool

dukeofdummies, w In a last-minute decision, White House decides not to terminate NASA employees

… I mean that would’ve been the clearest conflict of interest you could’ve possibly summoned.

keepthepace,

Thing is, I don’t think NASA and SpaceX compete. NASA is not a for-profit company and was happy to see successful private companies in the sector. They’ll happily be a SpaceX client so that they can focus on actual research and do things that are not profitable (yet)

dukeofdummies,

In practice, you’re probably right.

But in terms of “I wanna cut waste, and make the government lean! So I am gonna delete the space part of the government and replace it with my own!”

Just sounds bad, like really bad. Even worse than the armored Teslas. I can’t imagine NASA is the top of people’s lists of “utter wastes of time” It’s not a regulator, it’s not in the “known enemies” list unless you’re a flat earther. I dunno how you spin it to be palatable.

someguy3,

Really doubt that was it.

BedSharkPal,

SpaceX gets most of their money from NASA contracts no?

PhilipTheBucket,

I think that is probably the actual reason. Musk probably fired most of NASA, and then realized that the absolute carnage would in this case impact him personally, and it suddenly became an important issue and he needs to have them all rehired so that they can keep paying him his contracts. He still doesn’t give a shit about other people’s contracts / medications / intelligence operations / statutorily enforced payments / whatever.

corsicanguppy,

The problem is that so many other companies also get their money from NASA. Cutting out NASA makes it a clear pipe from gov to spaceX.

Of course, so many other projects NASA is running will also just die, but those don’t even help Elon anyway so they’re pointless. Or so.

TachyonTele, w In a last-minute decision, White House decides not to terminate NASA employees

Who was the one person that down voted this, and why?

jatone,

Me, what now?

ohYouKnow,

I can’t believe you’ve done this.

jatone,

I’m sorry I had to bring them back down to earth for their own good.

toynbee,

That’s the exact opposite of what NASA wants!

onlinepersona, w In a last-minute decision, White House decides not to terminate NASA employees

I do my best to block any news regarding the new administration, so this comes at quite a surprise that it was even considered. Always thought NASA was one of the great prides of the country, but it seems like those days are long gone.

Anti Commercial-AI license

ruk_n_rul,

NASA peaked during the Apollo project, after which budget plummeted and never reach the 1% mark on the national budget again

clay_pidgin,

In the mass firing they lake of the people who maintain nuclear weapons and the people working on bird flu. Once they realized they need those people they started trying to rehire them.

deFrisselle, w In a last-minute decision, White House decides not to terminate NASA employees
@deFrisselle@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Best thing would be to terminate Artemis

RememberTheApollo_, (edited )
@RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, shit idea. And exactly why NASA gets shit on for consuming money with less to show for it.

Spend billions on a program set up by one administration, then some tool comes along and wants to cut costs because they want to look effective and cuts NASA’s programs. Program never completes, now it’s just a waste. NASA, being by default a scientific endeavor thar doesn’t need to return an profit other than exportation and research data, is an easy target. Billions invested and nothing to show for it. WhY iS NaSA So iNeFfeCtIve!?! Repeat for another program later.

tunetardis, w Jupiter’s Moon Callisto Is Very Likely an Ocean World - Eos

I’m so looking forward to what JUICE uncovers! Europa has been centre stage and is getting its own dedicated mission, but the more we find out about those outer moons, the more fascinating they get. Ganymede is the largest in the solar system and has its own magnetic field. And Callisto being an ocean world? It wouldn’t surprise me if Ganymede is also.

Chakravanti,

Don’t land on Europa and if you’re right, I bet they make the same contract over that too. That, being the monolith’s ban.

ImmortanStalin, w Jupiter’s Moon Callisto Is Very Likely an Ocean World - Eos
Nougat, w Jupiter’s Moon Callisto Is Very Likely an Ocean World - Eos

They found that Callisto’s ionosphere alone cannot explain all existing observations, but that a subsurface ocean in combination with the ionosphere can. Further exploring which scenarios best fit the data, the researchers predicted that the ocean is likely at least tens of kilometers thick, as measured from the top of the liquid ocean to its seafloor, and encased beneath a solid ice shell that itself could range from tens to hundreds of kilometers thick.

Life on Callisto would have a worldview not unlike that of the Krikkiters.

Rooskie91, w 'It's extremely worrisome.' NASA's James Webb Space Telescope faces potential 20% budget cut just 4 years after launch

Because efficiency is leaving a $10b telescope floating in space like a piece of junk.

ploot,

Efficiency is when the government abandons all its investments, lets everything fall apart, and drives all scientists to take jobs abroad before the next uncontrolled pandemic paralyzes the country.

Theoriginalthon,

It’s going to be measles or some other preventable disease

ploot,

It’ll most likely be avian flu, which is pretty bad. The Trump people are trying to ban MRNA vaccines and cut the vaccine research that might have helped with it.

ZeroPoke,

Then its war with Canada to distract from the disease and to take their resources.

Asafum, w 'It's extremely worrisome.' NASA's James Webb Space Telescope faces potential 20% budget cut just 4 years after launch

Every day these people find a new way for me to hate them with a fucking burning passion.

sunzu2, w 'It's extremely worrisome.' NASA's James Webb Space Telescope faces potential 20% budget cut just 4 years after launch

We should sell to SpaceX for cheap since NASA can't do anything right!

Did not they do this with space lunch too lol

Gut it from the inside, then provide tech and talent to a corpo who then charges you for the services you knew how to do in house...

JoMiran,
@JoMiran@lemmy.ml avatar

I have no idea why you got downvoted for pointing out the obvious scam. I guess the sarcasm didn’t translate well.

5714, w 'It's extremely worrisome.' NASA's James Webb Space Telescope faces potential 20% budget cut just 4 years after launch

Fermi- MAGA-Paradox

MedicPigBabySaver, w 'It's extremely worrisome.' NASA's James Webb Space Telescope faces potential 20% budget cut just 4 years after launch

Space X is going to steal the 20% (probably more).

ShittyBeatlesFCPres, w 'It's extremely worrisome.' NASA's James Webb Space Telescope faces potential 20% budget cut just 4 years after launch

Elon is probably mad it launched on an Ariane 5 and it went so perfectly, we’ll get an extra decade of science out of it.

The Ariane 5 really was a reliable rocket. It had some failures early on, like basically all rockets, but then it had 82 successful launches in a row and then one partial failure before having another long perfect streak.

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/2c41d971-9cec-4bbe-81ef-32d8a246c2d5.jpeg

Obviously, more expensive than modern reusable rockets but JWST was important enough of a payload, that I’m glad NASA/ESA chose Ariane. (Plus, given JWST’s delays, I imagine when that decision was made, SpaceX was still iterating and having occasional explosions.)

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