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athos77, w Is Ernest still here?

Someone in another thread said he had an operation about a month ago, but I don't have any details other than that.

HarkMahlberg, (edited )
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Yeah he did have a medical procedure, on top of just finishing with divorcing his wife. Guy's got plenty on his plate I'm sure.

FfaerieOxide,
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just finishing with divorcing his wife

Has—against his best wishes—he been shot?

Note: This is an irreverent reference to an event and I have no more reasons to think he has actually been shot than I do to believe she was in hospital having GRS.

In any event I imagine Ernest is fine.

squiblet,
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Phew, sure is reassuring that our confirmation of this is that you imagine it.

FfaerieOxide,
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You want me putting out in the universe the opposite? Them's dangerous vibes to be fucking around with.

Either Ernest is fine and you can take comfort in that knowledge or Ernest is dead and you can take comfort in the knowledge that you can do things like throw up websites and they can keep going months after you kick it.

I don't think if Ernest were dead you and I would be talking about it on kbin.social.

squiblet,
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Seems kind of extreme to suggest such a drastic scenario. The possibilities are more numerous than either he’s 100% fine or dead (which, btw, you are the one “putting that into the universe). I wouldn't guess that’s what people were thinking… rather that perhaps he was in ill health, had lost interest or had other projects that were taking priority, perhaps due to practical financial considerations. Thankfully Ernest has posted an update answering this question, and he says while he has been hindered by some health circumstances recently, things are basically on track.

FfaerieOxide,
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you are the one “putting that into the universe

No, I put out into the universe that he was alive. You are welcome for the vibes.

I wouldn't guess that’s what people were thinking

He hasn't been, like... hit by a bus or anything

That's what people said they were thinking.

Gamers_Mate, w /kbin is feeling great right now

This is the best Kbin has ever run. Thanks Piotrsikora and Ernest for fixing the infrastructure. ^^

loobkoob, w /kbin March update

I'm glad that you're feeling somewhat better and are on the mend!

Bringing more people on board for moderation is definitely a good idea, as is delegating administration. I think it's clear to everyone who keeps up with all your updates that the coding/development is where your heart lies :) Absolutely prioritise these things; reddit's IPO is in a week and a half, and I wouldn't be surprised to see the fediverse, and /kbin, grow because of that.

I'm happy to put my name forward for helping out with moderation (as I'm sure plenty of other people will, too). You've made something special in /kbin, and helping keep it focused and spam-free through moderation feels like the least we could do to help out!

BolexForSoup,
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I have worked with loobkoob as a moderator on Reddit, discord, etc. and I just want to say they have the temperament and reliability anyone would want in a moderator.

I stumbled across this comment while browsing and felt the need to endorse haha

loobkoob,

<3

1Fuji2Taka3Nasubi, w RE: Is Ernest still here?

Please take good care Ernest.

pgetsos, w /kbin is feeling great right now
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Everything feels very fast! Now, only major issue to me is the broken federation. With some magazines I can see 2-3 posts er 10 (out of let's say 10), in other magazines with similar activity no new posts for the last few days

PugJesus, w /kbin is feeling great right now
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Still having limited federation issues, but I can browse and such.

livus,
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Me too. I think there are a bunch of federation issues in parts of the fediverse.

Mod logs are not working for me but everything else is great.

PugJesus,
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Upvotes and comments are both only rarely federating for me.

livus,
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Federation seems to be much better for me now!

PugJesus,
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Same, just got a hundred or so notifications. Hopefully this'll keep!

livus,
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Hahaha I got like 10! I am but a grasshopper.

But yeah we seem to be able to converse in near real time again! Hoping this sticks.

rhythmisaprancer,
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Good, I appreciate your history posts!

insomniac_lemon, (edited ) w /kbin March update

I'll be more actively handling spam as well, but it's clear that we need additional people for global instance moderation. I'll prioritize this. I'd like to delegate instance administration as much as possible and fully focus on code

Said before (forgive me if you planned on replying to it), but is spam filtering (and similar issues related to moderation/federation) something you're planning or?

The current spam is rudimentary so I don't think false positives are a reason for no filtering at all, particularly if existing users are not scanned the same way. If mods can un-delete false positive threads/comments made by new accounts surely it'd be less work than manually removing spambot stuff (even if it were per-user). Especially if manual spam removal means that people still see the spam.

EDIT: Also clicking on one of the new spam accounts, 13 minutes old with 6 threads (and that was posted almost immediately with the rest posted within the span of 3 minutes).

Facni, (edited ) w Is Ernest still here?

Maybe it's time for Kbin and Mbin to be a single project, in the end they are the same thing, just that Mbin has more people actively working on it, so they are faster with pull requests. There is no big philosophical problem, just a maintenance one.

Seraph,
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This would be great! Can you merge after a fork?

There's also the issue if Ernest isn't around who gives others willing to be on the dev team permissions so they can assist.

HubertManne,
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many forks have merged improvements from the other project in both directions when the licenses allow for it.

Facni, (edited )

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  • sik0fewl,

    I haven't dug into it, but I think that activity is just because it's forked?

    Aatube, (edited )
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    Are you sure that's not just because mbin was syncing changes from kbin? https://github.com/MbinOrg/mbin/pull/231 seems to be the only commit ernest has actually made to mbin directly

    celeste, w Do the "Ernest needs to add more maintainers to KBin!" comments remind anyone else of the xz social engineering malarkey?
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    I typed a reply about how bad actors will use reasonable arguments to get their way, so we'd need genuine evidence

    my comment didn't send properly tho and i got an error message, so if you see me commenting twice, sorry

    e0qdk, (edited ) w Multiple questions regarding Kbin
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    Let me preface my response by saying: my answer is kbin specific. It might or might not also apply to mbin since they may have changed things (or kept older features that kbin changed) since they forked. I know a few of the differences between them, but I haven't kept up with most of mbin's specifics.

    Also, if anyone stumbles into this in the far future: note that this post is from March 2024. If that seems like a long time ago, check for newer information...

    Can searches be made more specific? On Lemmy, you could define whether you wanted to search for communities/magazines, threads, comments, users and urls.

    You can search for magazines specifically from the magazine page. The general search searches in microblogs, thread text -- but not the thread title(?), and comments/replies, I think. You can search for exact user profiles as well with the "@ user @ instance" syntax -- e.g. searching for @TamperTanuki@fedia.io shows a link to your profile as the result. (That also applies to magazines/communties -- e.g. @kbinMeta@kbin.social will find both a user called "kbinMeta" and this magazine as search results -- but searching for magazines from the magazine page is probably better for most use cases.) You can sometimes also find the local version of a federated thread if you search for the original post URL. Note that searching for a post on another instance may not always work; if you're copying a link to a thread you found in a comment post and someone linked to their instance's local version of a thread and that isn't the original source it probably won't find it. (I've had decent luck with it in practice though. For the latter problematic case, load the post on the instance and then find the fediverse link which should take you to the original source and then search for that to find it on your instance.)

    @piotrsikora @ernest -- FYI searching for this thread by the exact title "Multiple questions regarding Kbin" does not find it currently but searching text like "as a new Kbin/Mbin user" will find it. Is that a bug?

    @piotrsikora @ernest -- Searching for a URL that is not a thread causes a 50x error.

    Lastly, you can change the result order (newest/controversial/oldest).

    You can change newest/top/hot/active etc. for the results on kbin by clicking on the tabs above the search results.

    To send toots/tweets, do I have to specify a magazine? I seem to be unable to send a toot without specifying a magazine first, although I only try to adress a mastodon user directly.

    Unclassified microblogs (e.g. from Mastodon users) usually end up in random, but I'm not sure how to post them intentionally since I don't use the microblog feature much. Hopefully someone else can chime in with an answer for this.

    Is this even the right magazine to ask these questions in? Is there a dedicated kbin support magazine?

    It's fine for kbin questions but you might get a better response for details about your specific instance (which runs mbin) on a local magazine like /m/fedia@fedia.io maybe? Sorry if that doesn't link correctly; I rarely link anything other than lemmy communities. (EDIT: https://fedia.io/m/fedia )

    On Lemmy, users can send each others direct messages. It seems like Kbin/Mbin has no way of displaying those direct messages. Is that correct or is there a way to show direct messages?

    DMs do not work between kbin and lemmy as far as I know. I have a lemmy alt linked in my profile in case lemmy users want to DM me.

    You should be able to send messages to local users on your instance though by going to a user's profile and clicking "Send Message" on the right side.

    Trying to access the send message interface for your account from kbin doesn't work here, so I doubt mbin/kbin DMs work. (@ernest this seems to redirect to login and then immediately to the home view instead of opening the message page or showing an error -- is this a bug?)

    Hope that helps!

    @piotrsikora @ernest -- this thread did not show up on other instances (e.g. I couldn't see it from my alt on reddthat.com despite being subscribed to this magazine from there as well) when I found it originally. I upvoted it here on kbin.social and now it shows up on reddthat. Is that a federation bug (either on fedia.io's side or on kbin.social's side)?

    @piotrsikora -- FYI: I got a lot of 50x errors trying to edit this comment.

    TamperTanuki,

    Thanks for taking the time for your long message. I tried searching for this topic on my lemmy alt. This topic did not show up on either my fedia account, nor the kbin magazine at first, but does now. One more oddity I noticed is that the mbin UI did not hotlink your mentions, but the lemmy UI did so correctly.

    HeartyBeast,
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    Totally awesome answer. Saving for future study.

    livus, (edited )
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    Unclassified microblogs (e.g. from Mastodon users) usually end up in random, but I'm not sure how to post them intentionally since I don't use the microblog feature much. Hopefully someone else can chime in with an answer for this.

    I can answer this, go to your own profile, choose add new post (not thread) and then from the "select a magazine" dropdown choose random. Then just use your @ tag like normal if you want to @ someone in the fediverse.

    @TamperTanuki

    bluGill, w I Still Like Kbin.social

    One day is annoying, but bearable. much longer and I won't have a choice but switch. I like kbin, but the mbin team says some things that I find concerning about kbin - I wish the two could patch up their differences.

    FfaerieOxide,
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    I couldn't find any decent k/m bin instances when I was looking during the most recent outage.

    olorin99,
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    I'm curious what counts as a decent instance for you?

    FfaerieOxide,
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    I'm curious what counts as a decent instance for you?

    Open signups, non-US servers, GDPR-compliant, file uploads, local magazines among other attributes.

    Also if you visit an instance and it appears that whoever runs it never even conceived you might not be viewing it from a phone, that's a turn off.

    wagesj45,
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    the mbin team says some things that I find concerning about kbin

    What are they saying?

    bluGill,

    kbin doesn't accept contributions. It is a one person project despit appearing to be community driven.

    I don't know what is true but that is a concerning accusation.

    Pamasich,

    The project definitely accepts contributions, the mbin devs have contributed to kbin before and a few weeks ago a minor code change was committed and merged by someone other than ernest.

    As I understand it, the issue is that people with merge permissions other than ernest are only allowed to merge their own pull requests, not those of third parties, which require a review from ernest.
    (At least that's what I've seen explained before, though I haven't seen any proof of it so I don't fully know if it's real.)

    This means a majority of contributors can't get their pull requests merged when ernest is gone. Which is why they went and made mbin when he was gone for months last time.

    Gamers_Mate, w /kbin next March update

    "This week, I also refreshed the project's code, and it seems like I'm slowly getting back on track regarding health matters."

    I am glad you are getting better.
    I will have to have a look into helping with moderation though I take it site moderation is at the instance level unless you mean for magazines?

    Gamers_Mate, w /kbin another quick update

    Thanks Ernest and Piotr for all the great work. Have a great week!

    Hello_there, w RE: Is Ernest still here?

    Glad to hear it boss man.
    However, you've got to remember that you're the boss man. You have to delegate.
    You shouldn't be clearing spam. You have people for that.
    I spend time doing a bunch of reports to you on pill pushers and spam links. I could just as easily be spending my time banning those usernames, resulting in faster responses and better experience for everyone.
    I think most people on the site would say your time is spent on doing admin stuff. Not mod spam stuff.

    Oofnik, w RE: Is Ernest still here?

    Ernest! So sorry to hear about the struggles. Happy you responded, I'll stick around :)

    Do consider adding more devs to the team! Not good that you are feeling pressure from dorks like us just because you need some time for yourself (or are working on things less visibly)

    ZILtoid1991,
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    I'd volunteer, but I'm already burdened with personal projects and the horribly underpaid work in Hungary's own "public work program" (pays half of minimum wage for an 8 hour job), so currently I cannot. That being said, if there ever were some paid opportunity (even part-time at minimum wage), I could finally say goodbye to my current job.

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