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Eggyhead, w Capcom President Thinks Game Prices Are 'Too Low' - IGN
@Eggyhead@artemis.camp avatar

Gamers worldwide think game prices are already too high.

WHYAREWEALLCAPS,

Won't you please think of the shareholders!

Pisodeuorrior,

Fucking hell, I finished God of War 4 and I was considering getting Ragnarok but SEVENTY-NINE EURO. Fuck that.

Kaldo,
@Kaldo@kbin.social avatar

Unfortunately considering how many of these gamers are willing to pay extra $30€ just to get 1 week earlier access to a game, I'm afraid you are wrong in this regard and we're going to see prices go up even more. Piracy is also dying, either because of groups disbanding or getting sued, or because of DRM getting better and more widespread, and once that is gone it's going to let publishers jack the price even higher up.

I'm pretty much resigned to just play indie and AA games at this point, there's no way I'm paying 60 or more for these broken, bloated and often overpriced products. There are few exceptions but even they will be driven to higher prices eventually.

Otome-chan,

I pretty much exclusively buy AA at this point, with the rare AAA nintendo 1st party title that I'm happy to pay $60 for. Most AAA games though just aren't worth it. Some of those games coming out you couldn't pay me to play.

Eggyhead,
@Eggyhead@artemis.camp avatar

I appreciate the candid reply. Any stand-out AA or indie titles out there that really stuck with you?

Kaldo,
@Kaldo@kbin.social avatar

There are so many tbh, really depends on what type of games you're interested in. I've really enjoyed remnant 1 and 2, owlcat pathfinder games, VRising, Riftbreaker, Timberborn, Against the Storm for example. All made by good dedicated studios that deserve your money more than EA, bioware, actiblizz or other corpos like that. Of the older titles, FTL, Into the Breach, Stardew Valley, Hollow Knight, Factorio, Project Zomboid etc are classics - polished games made with love that put pretty much every AAA title to shame in comparison.

Fogle, w Capcom President Thinks Game Prices Are 'Too Low' - IGN

Baldur’s Gate 3 made 350 million dollars within a month after launch.

Good games make their money back without question. Game prices are actually too expensive.

Scooter411, w Idris Elba: Actors in video games like Phantom Liberty is 'sign of the times'
@Scooter411@lemmy.ml avatar

I’m fine with that. I like interesting stories in my vidja games. Also, my wife will hang out with me more if the stories are compelling.

ampersandrew, w Wargroove 2 Review - IGN
@ampersandrew@kbin.social avatar

I loved that first Wargroove, and I held off on playing it for so long because I thought the changes they made to commanders wouldn't be to my liking. It turns out I actually prefer this to Advance Wars, as it solves a lot of problems with pacing and balance that Advance Wars had. It also had absolutely none of the bullshit that Advance Wars and (at least the old) Fire Emblem games had in their later missions where they'd just spawn new units out of nowhere and wipe out your forces with no ability for you to know it was coming without reloading the save. So imagine my surprise when I went back to read reviews, and they criticized Wargroove 1 for both of those things. I can only sit here scratching my head, wondering if the game I played was very different after patches than what people played at launch, because those were egregious issues in Advance Wars 20 years earlier as well.

ArugulaZ, w Idris Elba: Actors in video games like Phantom Liberty is 'sign of the times'
@ArugulaZ@kbin.social avatar

I thought we already got there in 1998, with Final Fantasy VII. Is it a game? Is it a movie? Who can tell?

Otome-chan, w PlayStation CEO Jim Ryan stepping down in March

God, finally. Maybe playstation will get better now? They've been declining in quality for literally ages.

Karak,

I mean, I know the pandemic felt super long, but 5 years is not exactly what I would call ages.

Otome-chan,

playstation started declining with ps3 which released in 2006. PS4 released in 2013, a decade ago. PS4 wasn't worth buying. That's a decade of garbage from sony.

Ferk, (edited ) w Striking Hollywood actors vote to authorize new walkout against video game makers
@Ferk@kbin.social avatar

Thing is... video games don't really "need" actors. At least not in the same level as they need writers.
Sure, some games might want to add realistic expressions and maybe even voice acting, but it's not something really required for most forms of video game entertainment. Even story-heavy games do perfectly fine with just good writing. In fact, for RPG universes meant to be extensible / moddable, it makes a lot more sense to not be restricted by how many lines of dialogue can the game afford to voice. Morrowind has a lot more dialog options than Oblivion and extensibility / flexibility in how the users interact with NPCs, despite Oblivion having superior AI and a lot more budget.

In fact, a lot of the videogames that do make use of voice acting, only do so for one (or at most, a few) languages... meaning that there's always some subset of players that don't really understand anything the voices say and still enjoy the game. They might as well be speaking autogenerated gibberish, like Animal Crossing characters do.

Add to that how nowadays 3D animators have a good dataset of information to tap into for creating convincing expressions, plus how AI can be very good at generating decent voice lines... and it gets even harder for a walkout like this to have any success. At least when it comes to the video game market.

Seigest, w Timberborn - Update 5 is now on the Experimental Branch! - Steam News
@Seigest@lemmy.ca avatar

I passed on this game a because it looked like a generic city builder. But having finally played it it had some surprising mechanics.

  • building up. Your space is fairly limited and you’ll want the good land for growing food. So you need to build up. Buildings ontop of buildings and you’ll need to account for efficient pathing and scaffolding. I thought this was a really cool mechanic.
  • power, the power mechanic is also pretty interesting. Everything that needs power is either attached to a powered building or connected via a big spinning log. Power sources are water wheels and windmills neither of wich is consistent so you also need gravity batteries. These are cool because the higher up you make them the better they are which encourages you to use mountains and scaffolds to make huge structures.

I’m looking forward to seeing how this game continues to grow

Kaldo,
@Kaldo@kbin.social avatar

It's definitely a recommendation from me for all basebuilder/colony management enjoyers out there, maybe its not as deep or complex with its mechanics as I'd prefer at times but it's a very unique, charming game that only keeps getting better with updates like these. Badwater seems like it could really spice up the game and change it drastically in the later phases which is just what I hoped for!

blazera, w Epic Games laying off 16% of staff, divesting from assets including Bandcamp, and generally hemorrhaging money
@blazera@kbin.social avatar

The heck is going on, youd think theyd be making bank now with Unity driving out so many developers.

Renacles,

They’ve been doing pretty much everything wrong except Unreal and that one time they got lucky with a failed-game-turned-BR-giant.

Imagine having 2 money printing machines and still being unable to come out with anything good.

blazera,
@blazera@kbin.social avatar

Can i get some specifics?

JelloBrains,
@JelloBrains@kbin.social avatar

The giant BR is likely Fortnite, the Battle Royale part that is the game most people know wasn't supposed to be the big deal, what is now Save The World was supposed to be the game and BR was just going to be tacked on.

blazera,
@blazera@kbin.social avatar

Specifics on the "everything wrong" part. I know about their huge successes with fortnite and unreal, i dont know any specific failures

xNIBx, (edited )

Their reboot of Unreal Tournament failed. And so did their moba named Paragon. Arguably, their Fortnite Save the World also failed. Gears of War Judgement had poor sales for a Gears game though that may have been mostly developed by People Can Fly.

Generally if we ignore Fortnite and Infinite Blade(a mobile game), their last successful game was Gears 3, from 12 years ago. They basically only have Fortnite, Unreal Engine and the Epic store.

Renacles,

They cancelled a bunch of games like Paragon and Unreal tournament to feed the Fortnite machine, abandoned the main Fortnite mode they had already sold and then started funneling money at the epic store.

The epic store at this point has been such a huge loss, exclusivity deals alone are worth millions and not even those managed to get them a user base.

A company with Fortnite’s and Unreal’s income should not be struggling to make a profit.

donuts,
@donuts@kbin.social avatar

I'd venture a wild guess that the revenue split business model behind Unreal Engine, and the strategy around spending tons of money to bring people over to the Epic Games Store, are not sustainable. They probably have been generally subsidized by the huge amount of cash that Fortnite has brought in.

Maybe the Fortnite well has dried up? 2023 has been a strong year for news game releases, and it's possible that Fortnite has lost some of players' attention?

Hard to say, but it's looking like Unity are not the only ones struggling to keep their business afloat.

JelloBrains,
@JelloBrains@kbin.social avatar

I only have played Fortnite because my nephew was big into it for a long time, now that he and his friends are in high school they have quit playing, I don't know if that's a big trend, but he tells me it is just not cool to play anymore.

Gordon_Freeman,
@Gordon_Freeman@kbin.social avatar

They keep giving away free games each week (they have to pay to the publishers of the games to give away games) yet nobody spend money in the store (I think the average was each user spend like $10 or $15 per year)

They also keep buying exclusives, a thing that cost money...

And we cannot forget all the studios and company they have bought, the purchase cost money and their maintenance too

mike591, w Epic Games laying off 16% of staff, divesting from assets including Bandcamp, and generally hemorrhaging money

Here is an article on it: https://www.polygon.com/23894267/epic-games-fortnite-unreal-engine-layoffs-2023

Looks like they just were spending too much and needed to clean up. On the positive side, they're offering all affected employees 6 months of severance + healthcare. That is really generous of them.

switches, w Vampire Survivors Free Whiteout Update Brings New Stage, Character, Weapon, And More
@switches@kbin.social avatar

vampire survivors is truly the game that keeps on giving

espiritu_p, w Epic Games laying off 16% of staff, divesting from assets including Bandcamp, and generally hemorrhaging money

Then I can soon buy music on bandcamp again?

snownyte, w Capcom President Thinks Game Prices Are 'Too Low' - IGN
@snownyte@kbin.social avatar

Well, I think gaming standards are too low, Harushiro Tsujimoto.

Here's the deal, we keep the game costs where they are, but you need to stop pulling unrealistic ideals to match up to. And you need to stop shitting out bad games just to keep the trademarks alive and other copyrights. Give us GOOD Megaman games, not whatever Megaman Dive is.

We need to go back to the model of where making good games was a key priority. Why have you forgotten this?

technologicalcaveman, w Epic Games laying off 16% of staff, divesting from assets including Bandcamp, and generally hemorrhaging money

Since they bought bandcamp payments have been fucked. Ever since every time someone buys an album it takes 2 or 3 days to reach me. Which is terrible on band camp friday, where all funds go to the artist. Because of the delay instead of getting the entire sale, I get the regular amount. Logins have been breaking, the app has been unstable, and a bunch of smaller issues. They fucked it up.

Feinschdens,

Do you know an other app like bandcamp?

technologicalcaveman,

There's not really much else around that has the options that bandcamp offers. Short of making and maintaining my own personal site.

Otome-chan, w Capcom President Thinks Game Prices Are 'Too Low' - IGN

They're right that retail prices of AAA games are too low to make a profit. Which is why they've turned to microtransactions and dlc. However, the price of such games is too high, which means the budgets and profit expectations are too high. With the quality of games coming out lately, even $60 is too high. I can't imagine spending $70 or even $80 on a game.

MoogleMaestro,
@MoogleMaestro@kbin.social avatar

To be fair to Capcom, I think that an ideal world for them would be not having to compete against games whose expectations and ideations are out-of-wack with the price point and requires huge sales numbers to even be profitable.

For example, SF6 has a full single player mode that exceeds any of the output of previous games. While the quality of this single player mode is sub-par, it's still very ambitious compared to their old method of releasing fighting games (Arcade mode and Versus mode, with some mini games -- that's all!) and it finds itself having to compete with other 60 dollar titles whose scope is often outlandish while knowing full well that a fighting game can never move FPS game figures, for example.

The 60 dollar game made a lot more sense in the era of the PS2 where games were often linear experiences, sometimes lightly to heavily cinematic. A game that was made like MGS2 could be sold today for 60 dollars and it would have a very hard time competing against huge blockbusters like Starfield, with some probably scoffing at the idea of paying 60 dollars for that experience. (See Armored Core 6 -- a good example of this that actually happened.)

Otome-chan,

They should just get rid of the expectations of sales numbers like what current AAA get. If we want better games, less people will buy them, because a good game isn't for everyone.

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