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Pxtl, w Star Citizen reaches $600 million raised but the game future is really worrying
@Pxtl@lemmy.ca avatar

I mean who would ever suspect that the man who wrote and directed the Wing Commander movie could be incompetent?

supercriticalcheese,

Shocked I am, really shocked!

atlasraven31, w What do you think is a good required completion time for video games? What examples come to mind of games that felt just right?

A session should be doable in 2 hrs or less (a single RTS game). Vampire Survivors nails it for short and sweet but I love open ended creation like Factorio.

nottheengineer, w What do you think is a good required completion time for video games? What examples come to mind of games that felt just right?

Some games like Ultrakill are short and sweet, but others like Factorio can keep you busy for weeks. Both of them felt right for me, but then again I have quite a bit of free time.

If you like shooters, check out anything from New Blood, Turbo Overkill and Postal brain danaged. Those games are segmented into individual levels, which is great for when you just have half an hour.

ezures,

Theres one way to make ultrakill last forever https://lemmy.wtf/pictrs/image/df2627d0-5006-4a62-ac7e-1eb5bea0908d.jpeg

eagleeyedtiger, w What do you think is a good required completion time for video games? What examples come to mind of games that felt just right?

I think it’s highly dependent on the player. I’m not a completionist in any sense, I mainly play games to have fun. I stop playing them when I stop having fun. I’ve put down games after a few hours and I’ve played some for hundreds of hours.

The gameplay loop in that sense is important whether it remains fun and keeps me coming back. Time is short as you get older and I guess I don’t really care about beating games.

Abrslam, w What do you think is a good required completion time for video games? What examples come to mind of games that felt just right?

Number of hours doesn’t really come into it these days compared with how fun the game is for me. I’m nearly 40, and whether or not a game is engaging is most important. I’ve got about 50hrs into Avernum: Escape from the Pit (a retro style isometric RPG), but I’ve got nearly 80hrs into Teslapunk, my favourite Shmup(completing the game takes about an hour).I Iove Dark Souls 1 and 3, Bloodborne, and Sekiro, but eventually got bored of Elden Ring and its open world.

Ultimately how fun a game is combined with how painless it is to get started is what I’m most interested in these days. I don’t have enough free time to be worrying if there are enough hours of gameplay.

MomoTimeToDie, w What do you think is a good required completion time for video games? What examples come to mind of games that felt just right?

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  • CorrodedCranium,
    @CorrodedCranium@leminal.space avatar

    I get what you are saying. I think it also depends on how the game is divided up. If it’s just one continuous romp with autosave points it can feel like it’s dragging on but if there’s clearcut levels and checkpoints I feel like it helps divide up a game into digestible chunks.

    I feel like that’s not really present with a lot of open world or sandbox games

    magnetosphere, w Star Citizen reaches $600 million raised but the game future is really worrying
    @magnetosphere@kbin.social avatar

    Woah. I got Gary Oldman confused with Alan Rickman. Rickman died back in 2016… and the article STILL made sense.

    That alone makes me think they’ve spent way too long on the goddam game.

    tsonfeir, w What do you think is a good required completion time for video games? What examples come to mind of games that felt just right?
    @tsonfeir@lemm.ee avatar

    I like a game I can keep playing forever. I just want to disappear in it.

    CorrodedCranium,
    @CorrodedCranium@leminal.space avatar

    Do you like online games that continuously receive new content? Like subscription based games for example

    KevonLooney,

    Why would you get those? Just get a game that never ends, like Factorio. Or a competitive online game with individual servers.

    CorrodedCranium,
    @CorrodedCranium@leminal.space avatar

    I mean some people like the comradarie of tackling a story together. I wish I knew enough people to be one of those people at times

    tsonfeir,
    @tsonfeir@lemm.ee avatar

    Well, I’ve played GTA online for 10 years and not paid a dime, yet get new content every few months.

    Klaymore,
    @Klaymore@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Beware of Factorio

    WintLizard, (edited ) w Star Citizen reaches $600 million raised but the game future is really worrying
    @WintLizard@sopuli.xyz avatar

    https://sopuli.xyz/pictrs/image/fa9f28c2-d131-4638-83ae-deb9077346a6.jpeg

    Is this article written by AI? It has all sorts of strange errors and repeated words. Like the sentence at the end of this paragraph. I know it is popular to call out everything as AI right now but this article is suspicous.

    lonke,

    AI has gotten to the point where it probably wouldn’t make these mistakes.

    Sanctus,
    @Sanctus@lemmy.world avatar

    You’ve never seen ChatGPT break I assume. It can.

    Lucidlethargy,

    Never ask it for advice on anything technical. It is confidently incorrect about a LOT of things.

    Sanctus,
    @Sanctus@lemmy.world avatar

    Its great with programming

    JokeDeity,

    It’s not “great”, but it’s slightly helpful sometimes.

    Sanctus,
    @Sanctus@lemmy.world avatar

    You know its weird, here people are downvoting me for agreeing its great. On another post I’m being downvoted for saying its okay. Y’all just don’t know and thats okay. If you know what you need and you are just unfamiliar with a library, ChatGPT can explain it fine if your prompt is concise.

    If you have no idea what you are doing and know nothing about programming, its not going to help you. I am currently using it to assist with small tasks using Excel.Interop and it basically spat out a working program for me to tweak. Don’t really know what to tell you about that but I can post it to GitHub I guess.

    Its fine with programming so long as you know to take it with a grain of salt and give it detailed prompts. Like for instance, if you don’t specify it usually defaults to Row 1 when dealing with ranges, thats fine, because I know what row I need.

    JokeDeity,

    Okay. 🙂

    Saledovil,

    I heard somebody say that it’s like a talented intern. Can produce good results, but you have to verify them yourself first before you use them.

    Sanctus,
    @Sanctus@lemmy.world avatar

    I mean you have to verify it as much as any answer on Stack Overflow. Lets not act like dudes haven’t been ripping code from there and just flying with it.

    Sentrovasi,

    Never ask it for advice period. It is always confident because that's the most believable way to present information on the internet. It is usually wrong because it is not actually intelligent.

    baked_tea,

    AI was at that point few months back. The quality is getting worse with each week now

    notleigh,

    Came in to criticise the writing too. Got AI or at least bad translation vibes. Really hard to follow.

    Omega_Jimes,

    There is a wierd amount of generative-learning articles on game/tech Lemmy. I keep seeing these articles from publications that I’ve never heard of and I get excited because “Oo new people in the space” then halfway through the article I feel duped.

    Gbagginsthe3rd, w What do you think is a good required completion time for video games? What examples come to mind of games that felt just right?

    These days (I’m 37) its not about the time taken but whether a game just feels like work.

    I know that would be different for everyone. But I pumped 140+ hours into Eldenring. Loved every battle and experience. But most other games after a few hours if it feels more like work than fun then I give up. Time is too precious and I’m already overworked.

    I can see why easy mode exists now, I want a sense of fulfilment and experience but I dont want a game to create unnecessary work

    CorrodedCranium,
    @CorrodedCranium@leminal.space avatar

    Maybe that’s part of the reason why I value shorter games. I know if it does hit a lull I can push through it

    demonquark,

    I love RPGs. But I inevitably spend more time planning out my character class, organizing my inventory, keeping track of quests, etc. Then I actually spend “playing” the game.

    It’s an enjoyable play style, I mean I’m choosing to do this. But, it means that every RPG game I see immediately becomes a massive time sink. I’m too employed to ever really enjoy an RPG. :(

    Ubettawerk,

    Ugh this is me with D:OS2 right now. I’m still in Act 1 but I spend more time looking up class builds and reading guides online than actually playing the damn game. I’m probably only going to ever have time to play it once so it gives me major FOMO not being 100% happy with my choices before progressing further :/

    ryathal,

    Similar for me. I get maybe 2 hours on a good day that I can actually play games. I’m not wasting that grinding levels or hunting down 200 feathers. I also don’t like games that spoonfeed advancement way to slowly in the beginning, I don’t want to spend 15 hours in a game just to get to the point where the combat system is actually fleshed out fully.

    sugar_in_your_tea, w New mystery Valve hardware device certified in South Korea

    The Deck’s AMD Van Gogh APU can’t be had in any other device and is substantially different to any other chip AMD produces.

    Is it really that different? I thought it was basically Zen 2 CPU cores and RDNA 2 GPU cores. It’s not an off-the-shelf SOC, but it’s also not that custom. So this seems a little hyperbolic to me. I’d say it’s pretty similar to the XBox Series S SOC (and Series X and PS5), which uses the same cores, just a different amount of each.

    I also think it’s kind of interesting that they’re jumping to a VR Headset. If it’s a standalone, it’s probably not “low power.” If it’s not standalone, I think they’ll have issues transferring data fast enough to be practical. So my money is on some kind of accessory, like maybe a Steam Link 2 or a controller. Those are low power, wireless, and seem to fit the bill a bit better.

    Then again, maybe it is a VR headset. But I really don’t see them competing at the low end on VR.

    Pika, w Star Citizen reaches $600 million raised but the game future is really worrying
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    I supported it but, I stopped playing, not enough to do. Graphics are insane but, little to no actual content aside from ships that you need to pay real money for. The constant dB resets prevent me from ever really grinding the game, what’s the point of it will just reset next major update. I personally think the game is going to flop due to this.

    all-knight-party,
    @all-knight-party@kbin.cafe avatar

    I don't think it's possible for the game to flop anymore if we're going off money made. In terms of them making money after they fully "release", well... I don't know if it will ever actually "release".

    Conyak,

    I haven’t played the game but is it true that the ships cost real money? Do you also have to pay for the base game?

    root,

    You purchase the base game which comes with a starter ship. In the game, you can do missions or do cargo trading to earn in-game money which you can use to buy ships.

    You can absolutely use real world cash to purchase additional ships, which funds the development of the game. You don’t have to if you don’t want to. Almost all the ships can be purchased with in-game currency.

    The main plus point for purchasing ships with real money is they are acvound bound and will stay with you after a database reset.

    Seudo,

    So the devs are insentivised to keep it in a perpetual alpha stage, wiping users game progress every couple months.

    root,

    Well, not all the gameplay loops have been fully fleshed out yet which is why it is still in the alpha stage. Database resets happen as festures are added.

    I don’t know if i will go so far as to say they are incentivised to keep it in alpha.

    sic_1,

    Same for me. Although I really enjoy just low flying on the planets and enjoy the scenery but what made me quit is the insane amount of bugs. Sometimes it’s nigh impossible to even get from the down area to the ship it out of the hangar. Once it’s running, it’s incredible but the lack of reliability is just to frustrating.

    lordxakio, w EA SPORTS™ Madden NFL 24 Sets Single-Week Franchise Record for Digital Units Sold

    Has Josh Allen on the cover, course it will!

    Zoldyck, w [Rumor] Nintendo Switch 2 Will Come With 12 GB RAM, Ray Tracing Capabilities; Unreal Engine 5 Demo Ran With DLSS 3.1

    Don’t care about ray tracing. Give me handheld 1080p + 120hz gaming.

    nave,

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  • Zoldyck,

    My point is that it would add much more value than ray tracing

    Cheese,

    Buy a high end phone.

    Zoldyck,

    Already have one. That’s not for gaming lol

    all-knight-party, w Payday 3 is 14 days away and the devs have already revealed a full year's worth of DLC
    @all-knight-party@kbin.cafe avatar

    Payday 2 had so much DLC it made my head spin. Not interested in keeping up with that, as much as I really enjoyed the gameplay of the second.

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