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mindbleach, w Roblox ‘operates illegal gambling ring that preys on children’: lawsuit

Forget the kids and ignore the odds. Any game taking real money is a scam.

(No that doesn’t mean buying games. No that doesn’t mean subscriptions. No that doesn’t mean expansions. No that doesn’t mean card games. No that doesn’t mean arcades. Jesus Christ, do people find a lot of ways to get mad about nonsense, whenever I say this.)

Nothing inside a video game should cost real money. Absolutely fucking nothing. All possible forms are abuse, built on how games by definition invent value for worthless elements that can be arbitrarily granted or withheld. That is what makes them games.

The business model is intolerable - and if we allow it to continue, there will be nothing else. It’s the dominant strategy. Your disgust and non-participation will never outweigh some tiny fraction of people getting taken for obscene quantities of real money in exchange for incrementing a variable. It’s in free mobile trash. It’s in $70 “AAA” flagship-franchise titles. It’s in single-player, multi-player, subscription MMOs - it’s in everything. There is zero incentive for them not to try robbing you like this. Companies that don’t rob you will make less money than companies that do.

Only legislation can fix this.

Ban the entire business model. (No that doesn’t mean games. No that doesn’t mean content. Jesus Christ, am I tired of dealing with pearl-clutching nonsense, just to say “fuck lootboxes.”)

Overt abuse gets disguised. It’s still abuse. All they’re getting better at is how deep the hooks can slide before people notice.

Content is the bait on this hook. All it’s doing is disguising the abuse. The abuse remains. The abuse is the entire point. The abuse is the only part that makes money.

This business model is a threat to the entire medium, and the only real solution is dead simple. We will be fine without it. We will only be fine, without it.

MomoTimeToDie,

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  • mindbleach,

    Lootboxes aren’t “buying content.” Buying a game, is. Buying DLC, is. Gambling on a hat that’s already in the game you’re playing is plainly something different, and increasingly, that’s the only source of revenue.

    This is not theoretical. We’re already in a stupid sci-fi future where four-billion-dollar games can be “”“free”“” and somehow convince people to spend thousands of dollars apiece on a deluge of random bullshit which is also allegedly free. And it’s not even possible to have a sane argument about this shit-show, because people pretend they don’t understand the thing all these games do.

    I want video games to make money the way they did in 2008.

    Do you have an opinion about that?

    If it goes ‘then games would magically look like 2008 forever,’ stop.

    If it goes ‘but then they’d make 2008 kinds of money,’ stop.

    This is new. This is bad. This is spreading. We should stop it.

    Kranerian, w Starfield is Bethesda's Least Buggiest Game to Date, Say Sources
    @Kranerian@kbin.social avatar

    That's such a low bar that it's clipped through the floor.

    mindbleach,

    That’s how they do door sills!

    Disgusted_Tadpole, w 2023 was the most watched Gamescom Opening Night Live in history. Viewership was up 66% over ONL 2022, and Gamescom had 320,000 attendees across the week in Cologne, Germany.
    @Disgusted_Tadpole@lemmy.ml avatar

    I’m so glad to read such news. I do hope irl games conventions won’t die any time soon

    regalia, w Armored Core VI peaks at 150K peak concurrent Steam players on day 1, making it the 4th biggest launch of 2023. It's also the second biggest From Software launch ever, second only to Elden Ring

    I play almost every game genre, but mechs have always had zero interest to me personally

    Alto, w Starfield is Bethesda's Least Buggiest Game to Date, Say Sources
    @Alto@kbin.social avatar

    Not gonna lie, that makes me less confident

    ArchmageAzor, w Star Citizen Funding crosses $600 million mark
    @ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world avatar

    RSI is really stretching their dev time out so they can pocket as much cash as possible

    finthechat, (edited ) w Starfield is Bethesda's Least Buggiest Game to Date, Say Sources
    @finthechat@kbin.social avatar

    (x) doubt

    In the case they are actually being honest, they could just be speaking relatively - which still doesn't inspire a lot of confidence in me that Starfield is going to be seamless and smooth at launch, or even a few months past launch.

    In the case that they are just clearly lying, it's an intentional strategy: they're counting on the fact that they will gain more money from this than they will lose from people discovering it was a lie after the game launches.

    Spike,
    finthechat,
    @finthechat@kbin.social avatar

    Lol nice stroll down memory lane.

    Can't believe people are still gonna trust this Bryan Kohberger-looking motherfucker anymore.

    BloodSlut, w Starfield is Bethesda's Least Buggiest Game to Date, Say Sources

    Well then im not interested

    Bonesince1997, w Starfield is Bethesda's Least Buggiest Game to Date, Say Sources

    What a ringing endorsement…

    harpuajim, w Starfield is Bethesda's Least Buggiest Game to Date, Say Sources

    Probably the result of Bethesda having to answer to Microsoft who gives final approval.

    Silverseren, w BioWare lays off senior writing staff as part of its recent job cuts

    Well, surely this is a good look for future game prospects and their level of writing quality. Surely...

    FrostyCaveman, w Cross Save is coming to Warframe in 2023

    Damn, 10 years too late for me but I do remember the console platforms used to be way more uptight about this stuff

    Silverseren, w Starfield is Bethesda's Least Buggiest Game to Date, Say Sources

    It's hilariously sad when you require a headline like that because of your previous games.

    Gnubyte, w Star Citizen Funding crosses $600 million mark

    I wonder if they know that starfield is coming out, no man’s sky’s been available forever, and there’s a plethora of other games out there.

    I think people are addicted to a fantasy.

    Bye, w Starfield is Bethesda's Least Buggiest Game to Date, Say Sources

    This just in: the least-stinky shit you ever took still smelled like shit

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