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_NetNomad, w 3 tiny new moons found around Uranus and Neptune — and one is exceptionally tiny
@_NetNomad@kbin.run avatar

i wonder if something that size would even have noticable gravity

adj16, w NASA looking for 4 volunteers to spend a year living and working inside a Mars simulator

Dang I was kind of interested in this but it looks like you gotta be smart smart

Tristaniopsis, w For this dead star, 72 years is a single Earth day

That doesn’t make sense. Is it 72 years or a day?!?

Clent,

Sounds like it’s 72 orbits per Earth day.

Shit headline.

Reminds me of Facebook posts that intentionally show the wrong answer to increase engagement.

po_tay_toes,
@po_tay_toes@lemmy.sambands.net avatar

Yes.

muhyb, w For this dead star, 72 years is a single Earth day

Godzilla had a stroke trying to read that title.

BakedCatboy, w For this dead star, 72 years is a single Earth day

Had to read the article to find out that they mean 72 “years worth of orbits” happen in 1 earth day. Although unlikely I was hoping that it was orbiting so fast that 1 earth day there would pass 72 earth years to a stationary observer due to time dilation. Not sure how fast it would need to go for that to happen.

XeroxCool,

Since time and speed are relative, to have 1 Earth day on the star and see 72 years on Earth, it’d simply be a speed multiplier of 72*365.24= 26,296.28 times faster. Our solar system orbits the galactic center at 250km/s or 0.0008c, so ~26k times that puts it at nearly 22c relative to us. So no.

But quite frankly, there must be a way to be a slower observer. Earth’s orbital speed is about 30km/s (0.0001c) so that drops the product way down to 2.6c. And while the Parker Solar Probe holds the record for the fastest man made object at 0.0006c at its closest solar approach, it actually took a lot of energy to slow it down to get it to the sun and stall it’s orbit. Otherwise, it’d just orbit it the same as the Earth. It slides out to a Venusian distance from the sun at apogee and drops to 12km/s, halving the differential requirement to +1.2c. But if everything is relative, how do we even determine where 1c is and know it’s so definitively impossible to reach? I don’t know, I’m starting to have an existential crisis. Maybe time just keeps dilating and simple addition/subtraction doesn’t apply for appreciable values of c so you have to start multiplying in decimals.

BakedCatboy,

Relativistic time dilation is nonlinear, so the time dilation “multiplier” approaches infinity as you approach the speed of light. So you will never need more than 1c to pass any finite amount of time for the observer while only passing a smaller amount of time for the moving object. Using a time dilation calculator, it looks like 1 day inside the moving object to 72 years for the stationary observer works out to roughly 99.9999999% the speed of light (9 nines total). Of course if you take into account earths movement as a “stationary” baseline then it’ll depend on whether you’re moving with or against the fast moving object.

It used to melt my brain too but there’s no need to know “absolutely stationary” since you’re comparing 2 objects. And due to the time dilation, the 1c limit is different depending on the observer, the time dilation will prevent anyone from observing >1c even if one person is going 0.9c relative to another person who is also going 0.9c relative to a stationary observer.

HootinNHollerin, w A Mysterious Wave-Like Structure in Our Galaxy Found to Be Slowly Slithering

Are the wobbles just from the gas cloud being pulled by gravity from everything?

state_electrician, w Saturn's largest moon most likely uninhabitable

There goes the real estate market.

AmidFuror, w Saturn's largest moon most likely uninhabitable

Well, there goes that idea. I will have to look for other places to retire.

NegativeLookBehind, w A Mysterious Wave-Like Structure in Our Galaxy Found to Be Slowly Slithering
@NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world avatar

It’s just a space snake, chill tf out

HootinNHollerin,

Where’s Samuel L Jackson when you need him

Denalduh,

He’s busy pressing the snake button on the microwave.

AbouBenAdhem, (edited ) w A Mysterious Wave-Like Structure in Our Galaxy Found to Be Slowly Slithering

The team’s measurements even suggest that the supernovae that virtually cleared the bubble of space in which the Milky Way resides was born in a cluster of stars within the Radcliffe Wave.

Wait, the Milky Way is inside of a bubble generated by novae which were inside a cluster which is inside the Radcliffe Wave which is… itself… inside the Milky Way?

gibmiser,

Universe is big, my homie.

Wogi,

I hope so, all my stuff is in there

ChicoSuave,

Hey, that’s where I keep my stuff too. Don’t mix up your stuff with mine!

UNWILLING_PARTICIPANT,

What’s with all this other people’s stuff in my universe!!

atx_aquarian,
@atx_aquarian@lemmy.world avatar

I wonder if that was meant to say our solar system. I’d check the original article for a hint if it wasn’t paywalled.

vexikron, (edited )

The Radcliffe Wave formation is a bunch of gas that is apparently, wiggling, in incredibly huge time and distance scales, like a sinusoidal wave.

So, imagine very, very long ago, before the Milky Way formed, you have a particular dense gaseous region/formation.

Dense gaseous regions tend to give birth to new stars. This region did so, and then one of them supernova’d.

Next, the Milky Way ended up forming in the void created by this supernova.

Then, this dense gaseous region was basically incorporated into the Milky Way (seems like one of its spiral arms) over another absurdly long period of time.

But, for some reason, it is wiggling, in a manner that dense gaseous regions have not been observed to behave in.

Thats the best I can do here, I am not an astrophysicist, though I did take two quarters of intro level astronomy in college lol.

Probably worthwhile to note that the article says that their data ‘suggests’ not ‘shows’ or ‘proves’ the bit about the supernova clearing the Milky Way void.

To actually prove that would encompass, among many other things, running the clock backward on star orbits/trajectories over billions of years using extremely complicated models and mountains of data I am absolutely not qualified to comment on.

Im just trying to very broadly explain the chain of events here if this supernova really did cause the void the Milky Way formed in.

Anyway, other fun fact: Our Milky Way Galaxy is not actually a pure spiral Galaxy as it has so often been depicted for quite a long time.

It is actually a barred spiral galaxy. Basically, instead of just swirly arms, there are actually short, more or less straight parts to the arms as they emanate out from the center, which then begin to curve into spirally arms.

Basically, Milky Way looks less like this: https://lemmy.zip/pictrs/image/8e0453d8-9e91-46fe-9d23-5bd0982e3b12.webp

And more like this: https://lemmy.zip/pictrs/image/df7eb7c1-b3e6-47b0-941d-2ddc4c471408.webp

Kolanaki, w A Mysterious Wave-Like Structure in Our Galaxy Found to Be Slowly Slithering
!deleted6508 avatar

Maybe it’s that thing from Star Trek: Generations that trapped Kirk.

caseyweederman,

really narrows it down

fitjazz,

Nexus was definitely my first thought when I read the headline.

UNWILLING_PARTICIPANT,

Thank you, sending a link to this article along with your take, to my message groups, has brought me and my friends real joy

Gork, w U.N. committee to take up issue of satellite interference with astronomy

COPUOS operates by consensus, requiring approval of all of its more than 100 member states to move forward on any issue, and thus allowing even a single nation to block action

That’s a shitty way to get anything done. Unanimous approval should only be for really big issues. Otherwise just let it be a majority vote.

Maalus,

Countries were felled because of veto powers. It’s a stupid approach to most things.

Grass, w Saturn's largest moon most likely uninhabitable

Did anyone ever think it was inhabitable?

thebardingreen,
@thebardingreen@lemmy.starlightkel.xyz avatar

The news is really interesting exobiology science, but the headline is terrible.

wintermute_oregon,

Yes. That’s been a theory even since I was a child in the 70’s. They don’t mean humans but life in general

Ashyr, w A Mysterious Wave-Like Structure in Our Galaxy Found to Be Slowly Slithering

Is it like a zipper? Have we tried beaming music into it?

psvrh,
@psvrh@lemmy.ca avatar

Why you only callin’ us when you got your dramas?

PhAzE,

I’m the ex

CCMan1701A,

All systems normal?

Zaktor, w Saturn's largest moon most likely uninhabitable

It feels like the title should be “uninhabited”. Life on earth doesn’t survive because we continue to be bombarded with nutrient carrying asteroids, it just needed them to kick it off. That few nutrients are likely to make it from the surface to the ocean means the genesis is unlikely to occur, but it doesn’t seem to make a decision about whether an unlikely genesis could survive, even if only in a small pocket of the ocean.

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