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Don_alForno, do games w Tencent reportedly wants a greater say over Ubisoft as investment discussions continue

So … what … Ubisoft isn’t greedy and predatory enough for them?

darthsid, do games w The Witcher 4 has entered full-scale production, CD Projekt has confirmed

Great - what am I supposed to do with this? Hope it’s not as shit as the rest of the UE5 games or Cyberpunk? Hope my hardware can run it? Have they learnt nothing from Cyberpunk? Like STFU and maybe show people things when it’s ready?

dabu,
@dabu@lemmy.world avatar

Nothing. Not every information needs to be actionable by its receivers. Do not get hyped up but know there will be a next installment and wait till they show something.

darthsid,

Yeah - and us consumers don’t need every fucking milestone painted out either. We didn’t back this. Show it to us when it’s time or get the fuck out of my feed. But watch how they’ll go down the cyberpunk route and build hype over 7 years again to deliver a broken piece of shit on launch. Why? Because they made so much money last time doing it.

simple,

I have never seen someone so upset that there’s gaming news in the gaming community

NiPfi,

I do understand the reaction somewhat though… It’s these kinds of news that gets people hyped for a game and leads to the sort of pressure that might make a launch fail as it did with Cyberpunk

vaquedoso,

Announcing a game is not over-hyping. If you can’t control yourself that a simple announcement that a game is in production makes you have a meltdown, then probably they shouldn’t be browsing the gaming community, where this kind of news is expected

darthsid,

Help me solve my dilemma - I do want to hear about new exciting releases/reviews of upcoming games but I also don’t want news of announced games which are 5+ years away. And especially don’t want to hear about every little morsel of info they throw your way in the 5 year build up only to launch disastrously and then keep us in the news cycle for another 2-3 years where they advertise how they are fixing their game only to turn around and ask for more money to sell you an expansion. How do I just focus on the good ones?

Ab_intra,
@Ab_intra@lemmy.world avatar

Cyberpunk runs on the RedEngine. This game will be the first for CD Project Red to run Unreal engine.

I agree however that Unreal engine might be a bad choice. We’ll have to see. They change engine because of money as developing an engine is far more expensive than using Unreal Engine.

pivot_root, (edited )

If I recall correctly, the “next gen update” for The Witcher 3 was UE5.

I did not recall correctly.

Ab_intra,
@Ab_intra@lemmy.world avatar

That makes no sense 🤣 if they had done that then it would mean they would have to develop the game all over again in UE5. UE5 and redENGINE are two different engines and there is no “upgrading” from one engine to the other without making the game all over again in the different engine.

FelixCress,

Or you can moan a little bit more.

mox, (edited ) do games w Tencent reportedly wants a greater say over Ubisoft as investment discussions continue

This is not surprising, but it’s nevertheless interesting, because it seems to disprove a naïve assumption that I’ve seen repeated over the years: that Tencent doesn’t influence the game companies it invests in.

TheSaus, do games w Tencent reportedly wants a greater say over Ubisoft as investment discussions continue

Well colour me shocked lmao

FarceOfWill, do gaming w Ex-PlayStation boss says games should be shorter because development costs are ‘not sustainable’ [VGC]

The playing time isn’t sustainable either

DebatableRaccoon, do gaming w Ex-PlayStation boss says games should be shorter because development costs are ‘not sustainable’ [VGC]

Where’s my shocked Pikachu face? Now just for these people to learn infinite growth also isn’t sustainable and we might finally be getting somewhere.

theangriestbird,

Shawn Layden, the titular “Ex-Playstation boss”, is currently strategic advisor for Tencent. Would we say that Tencent is currently adhering to this strategic advice?

DebatableRaccoon,

It feels like the correct answer would be “no” but I honestly don’t know enough about Tencent to weigh in.

theangriestbird,

the hard part is that they are partial investors in so many things. I believe they own the PUBG studio, which is the same studio that published Callisto Protocol, and that game had one of the largest budgets of all time. That’s the most obvious link I could find, but also that game came out a couple years ago so who knows, maybe they are steering the ship away from big budgets as we speak.

rtc, do gaming w Ex-PlayStation boss says games should be shorter because development costs are ‘not sustainable’ [VGC]

Sadge💀

hitmyspot, do gaming w Ex-PlayStation boss says games should be shorter because development costs are ‘not sustainable’ [VGC]

Most games that are long are artificially so, with padded out content and grinding to advance. Short excellent games sell well. Huge expensive messes don’t.

Just like movies, large blockbuster, high budget content can sell well but does risk sacrificing its soul and purpose. Occasionally one is both excellent technically, artistically and fun too.

Or you can have smaller games with a more specific purpose which won’t sell as well. Some low budget games are bad. Some high budget games are bad. Neither is a mark of quality, they are just different ways of making games with different outcomes and purposes.

Games need to turn a profit to be visible, so they should be looking at what’s the optimum way to spend their budget and make sales.

As gamers, we should be rewarding good games, and avoiding microtransactions and all the upsells. I don’t buy any cosmetics or additional content (unless it’s a continuation of the game that makes sense as another chapter). I want to avoid that side of gaming as it doesn’t lead to good games. I pay full price at launch for my favourite game series, but not extra content. Other games I purchase later on sale.

altima_neo, do gaming w Ex-PlayStation boss says games should be shorter because development costs are ‘not sustainable’ [VGC]
@altima_neo@lemmy.zip avatar

Length has nothing to do with it. It’s all about the bullshit inflated budgets. They’re comes a point of diminishing returns with how many staff at working on a game, and how much is spent on marketing.

mox, do gaming w Ex-PlayStation boss says games should be shorter because development costs are ‘not sustainable’ [VGC]

Does he think books should be shorter because the years of authors’ lives spent composing them are also not sustainable?

I wonder if he’s aware that development budgets can be allocated in different ways, like paying good writers to make substantial (and long) stories, or refining the user interface and game mechanics so that they’re fun to play for a long time, rather than pushing every new hardware generation to its technical limits.

secret300, do games w The Witcher 4 has entered full-scale production, CD Projekt has confirmed

Did they fix cyberpunk yet?

TwoBeeSan,

It’s aight now.

3060ti on endeavor getting 100+ fps at 1440. Some bugs here and there only seen one t pose in 40 hours

Xenny,

Y’know they actually did

secret300,

Noice. I haven’t heard of anything about it since launch. They still updating it?

Xenny,

Occasionally we get the odd tech update but they consider it basically finished now.

But the tl:dr is

  • Bugs fixed
  • Optimized
  • Gameplay enhanced
  • Dlc is amazing
AlexanderESmith,

Too bad it's a linear game (except for the first mission), which is the opposite of what they promised.

It's nice they added a DLC, and I'm glad it's good, but it doesn't really mesh with the rest of the game.

Is it a buggy mess like it was at launch? No. Is it what they advertised and sold? Also no.

secret300,

There’s DLC?! With the state the game launched in I wouldn’t even buy it, they honestly lost my trust

fsxylo,

Honestly if shadow of the erdtree didn’t come out it would be considered the gold standard dlc.

Edit: and you get to skip straight to the dlc on character creation. It makes some story decisions for you but if you want meat and not potatoes then that option is available.

Hadriscus,

I played through it last year and got one or two bugs tops, great experience and fantastic game (if you liked TW3)

DacoTaco,
@DacoTaco@lemmy.world avatar

Yes but also no. Played base game recently, and i had a lot of bugs and frustrations. Some of them because i ran it from hdd, which is not their recommended way of media to install on, but some were clearly design failures and bugs…

toofpic,

I just finished four endings and am now grinding side missions. Through oner 90h of great gameplay, I had like 5 bugs (1 crash, 1 person walking on air, 1 body that rolled away like a car, 1 car stuck spinning wheels on a flat surface, 15 cases of “summoning” a car to see it dropping upside down 30 meters away)
I’ve seen worse in terms of bugs, and it’s an interesting game with tons of content and different ways to build your character.

stevedice,

Yeah, yeah, we know they fixed the bugs but did they fix the game? Do cops still exclusively spawn behind you so you can escape them by driving in a straight line?

toofpic,

They also appear on some streets ahead - they are usually avoidable if you look at minimap all the time, but it’s definitely not “just behind”

stevedice,

Interesting. I just looked it up and it seems they completely revamped the entire police system. It light finally be time for me to give it another shot.

1371113,

It’s a good game now. I waited over 2 years to buy it and think it’s the best single player shooter I’ve played since Bioshock/HL2. Have completed it 5 times now using different builds and am thinking about getting the expansion if it goes on sale at xmas.

stevedice,

I bought it on release because TW3 and Deus Ex are some of my favorite games but it was so bad back then that I haven’t touched it since. Alright, I’ll give it another shot.

1371113,

I don’t think you’ll regret it. The story is incredibly rich and outcomes depend a lot on your choices and playstyles. It never feels like you’re grinding for levels to me. There’s the occasional bug, but no more than other games I’ve played. I think it’s probably the first genre defining game we’ve seen in about a 15 years.

Ookami38,

Can confirm. I’m playing through my 4th total playthrough (once on launch, once about 6mo later, one on the DLC launch and one now) and the last two have been noticeable in terms of quality improvements. I’m playing modded to shit, but only have had a few crashes. Police feel fine now, I’m not using anything that alters their spawn logic. Just about the only thing I’ve not enjoyed still is driving, even modded to hell lmao

mechoman444, do games w The Witcher 4 has entered full-scale production, CD Projekt has confirmed

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  • icecreamtaco,
    @icecreamtaco@lemmy.world avatar

    Don’t waste your mental health getting mad at things that haven’t happened yet, and may never happen

    FeelzGoodMan420, do games w The Witcher 4 has entered full-scale production, CD Projekt has confirmed

    Cool, can’t wait for the stutter, as per every other UE5 slop to come out

    BlackLaZoR,
    @BlackLaZoR@fedia.io avatar

    Expect minimum requirements = 5070ti,

    5090 recommended for 60 fps with DLSS

    moody,

    I don’t know get why they would make it with UE5 when they have their own in-house engine.

    DrDystopia,

    They ended RedEngine with Cyberpunk 2077, too much work. Everything going forward will be UE.

    GissaMittJobb,

    It’s hard work to maintain and develop your own engine.

    FeelzGoodMan420,

    Others answered but it’s easier/cheaper for them to use a vendor’s engine. It makes sense.

    What sucks is that UE seems to almost have a monopoly on engine leasing. I wish there were more options. Having all games use the same engine is putting too many eggs in the same basket.

    UndercoverUlrikHD,
    @UndercoverUlrikHD@programming.dev avatar

    They claimed that it was expensive and was part of the reason for cyberpunk’s turbulent launch.

    It’s a real shame though, most UE5 runs awful it seems, and are still limited by single thread performance, unlike RED Engine which scales far better with more CPU cores.

    seejur,

    Tbh RED engine also has its plethora of problems, missing features, and makes it harder to onboard new team members (need to train on new engine instead of basically every single dev having experience with unity or unreal).

    Not that unreal is perfect by any shots.

    HowManyNimons,

    They should go back to the NWN engine.

    darthelmet,

    Aside from doing the work to maintain and update your own engine, there is also the problem of onboarding new hires. If you use a standard you can go out and hire people already experienced with working on the engine. If you use your own, you have to teach a new hire to use it before they can be any help.

    I read that this caused a lot of development woes on Halo Infinite for example.

    theangriestbird, do gaming w Hands-On: Avowed feels like Obsidian’s take on Elder Scrolls and we can’t wait to play more [VGC]

    This preview is pretty positive. Here’s a hands-on preview from Remap that is a bit more mixed: remapradio.com/articles/avowed-preview-xbox/

    eutsgueden,

    No kidding. From the article,

    So far, it’s a pretty looking game. The trouble is finding things to do in it.

    That was the end of the quest. All setup, no punchline.

    There was no one to thank me. All I had was a little more loot. Where’s my impact on the world?

    If these quotes ring true in the final game, that’s a hard pass. I want RPGs, action-oriented or not, to allow me to play a role. A million games can make fantasy look pretty, Obsidian needs to make it interesting.

    theangriestbird,

    that’s what i’m saying! I hope the quests are more dense with writing in the final release. Well-designed quests with clever writing are the entire appeal of an Obsidian RPG!

    Megaman_EXE,

    After playing part of their game Outer Worlds, I’m not surprised. I thought the writing was alright, but the game felt lacking and empty. I was surprised because I’ve only ever heard good things about New Vegas. I haven’t played New Vegas yet but I’m assuming it’s a much better time

    Beegzoidberg,

    You’d be right in my opinion. New Vegas is incredible. But something felt missing from the outer worlds, and I was hoping they would find it in avowed.

    Faydaikin,
    @Faydaikin@beehaw.org avatar

    Avowed is an established world, while The Outer Worlds was a new IP.

    Vastly different scopes.

    I expect TOW2 is going to be bigger in scale and depth.

    ouch, do games w The Witcher 4 has entered full-scale production, CD Projekt has confirmed

    I should probably get around to continuing Witcher 3. I just have a mental issue with quests and choices blocking other quests that I just end up reading the wiki. Help me.

    Damage,

    Don’t underestimate the importance of playing snowballs

    ouch,

    Care to elaborate?

    Jyrdano,

    You will know when you get to it. Be supportive dad.

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