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Ephera, do gaming w Opinion: Phil Spencer, long cast as Xbox’s saviour, may be remembered as the man who killed it

I just remembered that Redfall also flopped last year, and that was supposed to be one of their two big titles, along with Starfield, which got overshadowed, to say the least.

Wikipedia tells me the CoD release in 2023 was “the lowest-rated mainline Call of Duty installment on Metacritic”, although it seemed to have still printed them money with essentially no work invested, so I guess that’s good?

Diablo IV, I think, did reasonably well in its niche. I remember it being a bit overshadowed by Zelda.

Not sure, if I’m forgetting any other major Microsoft/Bethesda/Arcane/Obsidian/Activision/Blizzard/King games, but yeah, that doesn’t look too great…

BolexForSoup,
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Much as I am loath to admit it, Diablo IV did amazing beyond its niche. Anecdotally I saw soooo many people who’d never played Diablo or any game like it get onboard.

Staying power remains to be seen of course.

LoamImprovement,

Redfall also flopped last year

Feels like an understatement - this was the game that killed Arkane, because a majority of the team decided they’d rather fuck off than work on whale chasing live-service nonsense. And like, good on them, but it means no more Dishonored, no sequels to Prey, no chance of Arx Fatalis II, and it fucking sucks to see enshittification strangling good talent. I hope they’ll find success outside of MS’ looming shadow.

dillekant, do gaming w Opinion: Phil Spencer, long cast as Xbox’s saviour, may be remembered as the man who killed it

I don’t think it’s a death, it’s more of a transition. Firstly, a lot of XBox games have been coming to PC, intentionally, because Microsoft basically own the market*. They’ve also created XCloud + Game pass, possibly the most convenient way to play games, and you don’t need an XBox.

The real people who’ve turned on the device itself has been devs. Some of the stuff they’ve been saying at GDC have been at the same level as the stuff they say about Linux as a target. Like your game shouldn’t be that dependent on platform, it hurts things like archival.

ashamam,
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You have to ask yourself why. Devs are professionals by definition, for them the context is ease of developing along with potential to make a return on investment. Xbox (console) is now a problem on both those metrics. Simple as that, no fanboying or villifying required.

Its just not a big enough market and a good portion of the market is GP'ified and doesn't spend outside of it. Couple that with dual SKU targets with real challenges working around the S memory constraints and here we are.

But I agree that its a transition. Away from the current hardware model.

Tarogar, do gaming w Opinion: Phil Spencer, long cast as Xbox’s saviour, may be remembered as the man who killed it

I don’t own either current gen consoles. But I do have a rather up to date PC. I don’t have any current gen consoles when I owned some before (360, PS4) because I don’t like how they handle those consoles. I don’t run windows anymore because I disagree that MY PC that I built is somehow Microsoft’s property if I use their software. I used to be a Halo fan but ever since Halo 4 the series has been rather… Mediocre and I just don’t have time for sub par experiences. In fact I have not touched any AAA titles in so long because they have all been overly save and boring.

I don’t hate every big company making games,in fact I miss the old Ubisoft from the early 2000s or valve or blizzard (save of a few things) or…

Either way, the market isn’t infinite and at some point keeping the existing player base is probably a good idea. So is not pissing of customers with practices that are predatory. Ultimately wild uncontrolled growth is also known as cancer.

BolexForSoup,
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Do yourself a favor and never get curious about halo 5.

Gears on the other hand has still been rocking along and staying interesting IMO.

Mastengwe, do gaming w Opinion: Phil Spencer, long cast as Xbox’s saviour, may be remembered as the man who killed it

But how? Buying out Bethesda and turning them into an exclusive-only producing shitshow was probably the most business savvy move of the century!

Lol

spacedogroy, do gaming w Opinion: Phil Spencer, long cast as Xbox’s saviour, may be remembered as the man who killed it

Sony is also encountering similar issues in terms of the cost of games being unsustainable and Moore’s Law kicking in. The difference is that they’re making games that move consoles and Microsoft just aren’t.

At this point, I don’t know what strategy Microsoft has at this point. If you say “Xbox everywhere”, what does Xbox even mean any more for the enthusiast? I don’t think Xbox is done, but if they were looking to be HBO before, they are now going for the Netflix approach - high quantity content, mediocre product - and possibly alienate the existing audience they have.

I say this as an Xbox Series S owner, I’m happy with my purchase, but as a consumer I don’t think I’ll be upgrading my console to anything Microsoft ship any time soon.

samc, do gaming w Opinion: Phil Spencer, long cast as Xbox’s saviour, may be remembered as the man who killed it
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There’s a common thread between a lot of the missteps listed here and Embeacer group’s recent troubles. The idea that you could fund 230 Spiderman 2’s for the same price as buying 1 Activision-Blizzard-King really drove the point home to me.

The problem (in my obviously uneducated opinion) is that when you spend so much money in acquisition, especially of established companies, you’re neither funding nor rewarding innovation. You spend $70B on ABK and some randos in suits get a huge payout that they invest in oil or crypto or whatever. Spend $70B on talent and early career devs and you could unleash a tidal wave of creativity and experimentation.

AcidTwang,
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True. These mega-deals are rarely about games, it's more in the realm of finance. In fact it doesn't really matter if it's games, films, cars, saucepans, it's all about the financial side. And as a consequence in order to make good on that investment these companies end up producing the blandest, widest-appealing pap, the complete opposite of innovation. However, the breathless way these stories are reported by a media, both specialist and mainstream, which is more concerned with business "success", means we're told it's a very good thing, when it clearly isn't.

Omegamanthethird, do gaming w Resident Evil 9 could be an open world game, it’s claimed

Early Resident Evil games were essentially horizontal Metroidvania. Open world makes sense.

CharlesReed, do gaming w Resident Evil 9 could be an open world game, it’s claimed

Village was already kind of an open world (albeit was a small one), so I think they could pull it off.

chloyster, do gaming w Resident Evil 9 could be an open world game, it’s claimed

I understand the open world fatigue, but everything resident evil recently has been banger after banger. I LOVE resident evil and am eager to see what they do with this. Even r3make, while short and having a lot of cut content isn’t a bad game. I have faith in them to make a good game here.

BurningnnTree, do gaming w Resident Evil 9 could be an open world game, it’s claimed

I really liked the part in RE4 Remake where you boat around the lake to explore various places. I hope we’ll see more parts like that in RE9.

FlashMobOfOne, do gaming w Resident Evil 9 could be an open world game, it’s claimed
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I’d love to see it. I adore open-world games.

entropicdrift, do gaming w Resident Evil 9 could be an open world game, it’s claimed
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Just what we needed, more open world AAA games.

Does nobody remember Dynasty Warriors 9?

QuentinCallaghan,
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What could possibly go wrong?

FlashMobOfOne,
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You disliking something does not make it inherently bad.

Let people enjoy things.

entropicdrift,
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I didn’t say it was inherently bad. I expressed my opinion and nothing more.

Let people have opinions

frank, do gaming w Resident Evil 9 could be an open world game, it’s claimed

That’d be pretty interesting if they could pull it off

Bezier,
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I doubt that’ll happen, but you aren’t wrong.

ICastFist, do games w Starbreeze removes CEO following Payday 3's poor performance
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Asshole publisher forces game studio to deliver shit

Asshole publisher mad at shit game’s shit sales

Game studio CEO gets booted

Now things are going to work

/s

Murvel, do games w Starbreeze removes CEO following Payday 3's poor performance

Seems to be the correct course of action

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