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ekZepp, do gaming w I just love collecting them all!
@ekZepp@lemmy.world avatar

Quite a pain. I mostly buy anything on steam or choose steam keys x this reason.

bentropy, do gaming w I just love collecting them all!

See, you guys don’t know what you want. First it’s not okay for you that you have to use steam to play only three games and now it’s not okay that there are games you don’t have to use steam for… wtf!

bleistift2,

You used to be able to open games without the Steam launcher until the latest major release.

Also steam often launches another dedicated launcher.

ares35,
@ares35@kbin.social avatar

if a game has its own launcher, yea, that's usually still there, too.

kratoz29, do gaming w I just love collecting them all!
@kratoz29@lemm.ee avatar

It has been ages since I played something on PC (I don’t have a gaming one) but that is crazy to me lol.

Is it not possible to just put the .exe files into the desktop (not shortcuts).

The_Picard_Maneuver,
@The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website avatar

I know you used to be able to do that, but I don’t think it works anymore.

Shadow,
@Shadow@lemmy.ca avatar

The exe is typically a tiny part of the actual game files, so no.

kratoz29,
@kratoz29@lemm.ee avatar

Perhaps the entire folder of the game on your desktop? I do remember to have done something like that before lol.

bleistift2,

I tried that with Tropico 5. The .exe launches the Kalypso launcher. When you press play, it launches the steam launcher, which then launches the Kalypso launcher again. When you then press play, you get to play the game.

(This is from memory. Details may vary.)

Kecessa,

Depends, DRM free games yes…

wreckedcarzz,
@wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world avatar

I hear there’s a website for that… amazing how you can get anything drm-free if you know how to sail.

cashsky, do gaming w Unfortunately

Why does the robot have boobs?

agressivelyPassive,

Because Aggressotrons are “female”, whatever that means for a robot.

mlg, do gaming w I just love collecting them all!
@mlg@lemmy.world avatar

So called free market socialists when steam offers almost all the games in one launcher (monopoly)

shneancy,

at least they’re using the money they get to make hardware that would not get greenlit otherwise due to too high market risks

and they didn’t suddenly make the platform subscription only & put all the new features in the cloud to make it harder to pirate (looking at you Adobe you pos)

wreckedcarzz,
@wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world avatar

monopoly

No, you need uplay for that

ares35, do gaming w I just love collecting them all!
@ares35@kbin.social avatar

thank you for the reminder to fetch my freebie for the week from epic. not that i actually play them (have a whole one title installed). i just collect those, too.

penquin,

Mind sharing? lol

brbposting,
penquin,

Thank you

gmtom, do gaming w I just love collecting them all!

This is a rare console W over PC. All your games are just there. No additional launchers or log ins, no waiting 30 minutes for the game to update because you havnt opened that launcher in months.

bleistift2,

Games do update when you haven’t played them for a while. At least on Switch.

gmtom,

Yeah that’s the point. On consoles they do, on PC they might not if you havnt opened the launcher in a while.

only0218,

Can’t exactly turn off the updater on an console /i.e. the software responsible for launching them games

I really wish tho that steam or similar could update in connected Standby/modern Standby on lowest priority

wreckedcarzz,
@wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world avatar

Best I can do is wake your laptop in your messenger bag, update, catch fire and burn your house down while you sleep.

Take it or leave it.

Anamnesis,

Yeah but then you have to use a controller like a chump.

Kolanaki,
!deleted6508 avatar

They’re capable of supporting mouse and keyboard. For some reason most games just don’t. Like on my PS5, anything that uses a mouse style menu, I can use a mouse to operate. I can also use a keyboard to type in input boxes with anything. But the only game I can fully play with a M&KB I’ve tried so far is Call of Duty. Which is nuts because Stellaris, Civilization and City Skylines are on this system, too, and they would very much benefit from full M&KB support.

Rai,

I don’t have a PS5, but I have a couple Dualsense controllers. Some games BLOW ME AWAY on controller. Returnal with haptics and adaptive triggers? INSANE. I wouldn’t play it with any other control method.

Empricorn,

Some games are better with a controller. Some PC users prefer controller…

PilferJynx,

For certain genres yes.

WalrusDragonOnABike,

Consoles have exclusives. I much rather download an extra launcher than have to pay $400 for very similar hardware to use their special launcher to play a game. Also, if you have physical games, you have to deal with changing those out. PC, you're already on your PC so you just play the games you wanna play. Also, basically every time I've tried to play something on a playstation with someone, their PS needs and update and the game needs an update. PC games just update without me paying any attention to them on their own.

gmtom,

Ah I forgot mentioning a good thing about consoles would bring out these people

WalrusDragonOnABike,

Consoles have advantages, but splitting launchers cross different hardware isn't a good thing about them. Its a negative.

gmtom,

But they don’t that’s the whole point.

WalrusDragonOnABike,

They do. If I want to play one game, then I have to grab the disk and put it in its specific console to play it with its launcher. There's some exceptions, like gamecube games can be played on Wii's using its hardware and launcher. But if I want to the play a PS4 game, I have to switch to that hardware and the PS4 launcher. On PC, at least I can use retroarch as a single unified launcher for many consoles instead of buying several consoles to use each of them as a distinct launcher and steam for most everything else. No switching to the PS# launcher to run some things and the Switch launcher for different games. Even if a game has its own dedicated launcher on PC (probably enough reason for me to not bother playing), its still better than having to physically swap hardware to use its launcher.

gmtom,

It really is just an innate need isn’t it?

Mango,

The whole heckin console is your launcher. So now you need another whole box IRL for the other launchers. Be sure to fiddle with your TV’s source selection button that for some reason can never work the way we expect.

gmtom,

Not really how that works, but I get some people have a pathological need to shit on consoles for no reason.

Mango,

That’s exactly how that works, but some people have a pathological need to defend their buyer’s remorse.

gmtom,

No it’s not, different hardware isn’t equivalent to different launchers. Because if it was you could say the same exact thing about PCs.

The point is, on console whether you play a ubisoft game or EA game or Microsoft game, they all are launched from the same native launcher.

And I literally don’t even own a modern console and play all my games on PC, so have no buyers remorse. So please stop with this infantile platform war bullshit. I’m assuming you’re a grown-ass man, so please act like it.

Mango,

Some things are objectively better and the people defending that which isn’t are making my experience worse. I’m gonna talk about it. Deal with it.

ADTJ,

Another big win is game licences work for anyone using the console for all games. While some PC publishers require each individual user to buy another copy of the game in order to keep separate profiles. Looking at you, Ubisoft

icedterminal,

Microsoft stopped short on PCs with their store.

If you’re a parent, you can create a family group with your Microsoft account. Add each child’s Microsoft account under yours. Purchase the game on your account. Login to your account on your childs PC to install it. Log out and then login to your childs account. They’ll be able to play it.

Limitations? They will not have access to any DLC. It’s limited to one child. If you have more than one child, too bad.

Blue_Morpho,

No additional launchers or log ins, no waiting 30 minutes for the game to update

That happens on consoles all the time. Don’t play your modern console (switch or newer) and the same thing happens. I avoid Xbox now because every time I go to play it’s a 30 minute wait for system and game updates. -and my Xbox is hardwired Ethernet to 300 mbs service so it’s not slow Internet

I even booted up my switch before family visiting on Thanksgiving because I knew it would want an update. At least Switch was nice by making it optional.

gmtom,

Yeah no shit it doesn’t update games when it’s powered off?

Blue_Morpho,

So you can’t complain that a PC needs updating if you left it turned off for a when when consoles work exactly the same way.

gmtom,

I’m not though. Unless you open every launcher for every game whenever you open you PC then you still have that problem.

If I’m using my xbox regularly than that one game I havnt played in 8 months is going to stay updated. The same isn’t true for PCs. I use mine every day, but the other week when I went to load up world of warships for the first time in a while I had a 12gb update because it has its own special launcher, so I just said fuck it and went to a different game.

Hupf, do gaming w I just love collecting them all!

Now how about we get an Office launcher

wreckedcarzz,
@wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world avatar

Achievement unlocked: Starting to Excel

Would you like to share this Gaming Moment™ with your friends? Yes / yes.

Morcyphr, do gaming w I just love collecting them all!

I made an Epic account years ago for the freebies. I’m not sure, but I’d bet I never played a single one.

Kecessa,

If you claimed all of them you’ve got some seriously great games in there… Control, Subnautica, Alien Isolation, all the Tomb Raider games, Evil Within…

gever4ever,

They even gave out the complete Sims 2.

Kecessa, (edited )

I think they gave Civ 6 too, so that’s at least two games for addicts

AngryCommieKender,

I don’t have Civ6, but they did give us Cities Skylines, and Europa Universalis IV

Kecessa,

Four games that by themselves can use more of your free time than you will have for the rest of your life…

AngryCommieKender,

I don’t have Sims 2, I have Sims 4, but I may have missed Sims 2. My old computer couldn’t open the epic games launcher, so I missed the first six or eight months of games.

AngryCommieKender,

The entire BioShock collection, Rogue Legacy, Pathfinder Kingmaker, XCOM 2, Yooka-Laylee and Y-L and the Impossible Lair, Several Warhammer games, Turnip Boy Commits Tax Evasion, Tiny Tina’s Assault on Dragon Keep, Star Wars Squadrons, Bridge Constructor: The Walking Dead, Fallout 1, 2, 3, NV, and Tactics, Guacamelee and Guacamelee 2, Homeworld 1&2 Remastered, KSP, and of course LAWN MOWING SIMULATOR!!!

Edit: I almost forgot PC Building Simulator with the IT Expansion!

Zekas,

I’d rather pay to not use that godawful platform. Yes I know that’s stupid in certain ways but my hate for Tim Swiney is simply that strong

RogueBanana,

There are ways to skip their launcher entirely amd use alternatives. Legendary and heroic launcher for example on Linux, there are probably some on windows as well.

FrostKing,

These both work on Windows, to my knowledge

Kecessa,

The vast majority of freebies are DRM free…

Zekas,

I’m not referring to DRM.

Kecessa,

Launchers are a form of DRM, get DRM free games and you won’t need a launcher.

Zekas,

I’m still not referring to DRM. I’m saying Epic is a shitty platform that I hate enough to pay money to avoid. Get some reading comprehension. Further, you’re not even entirely correct.

Kecessa,

Man, if you hate him so much you should take the freebies that they pay money for and not buy anything from the platform.

FrenLivesMatter,
@FrenLivesMatter@lemmy.today avatar

Same. I even played some of them. Still never gave them a red cent because their launcher is an offense to all mankind.

Kecessa,

Their launcher is perfectly acceptable and even requires less inputs to launch games than Steam as the games you’ve installed are listed in the menu on the left that’s always visible. Steam has become a mess that’s full of bloat and useless features that only exist to profit from whales and gambling addicts.

ILikeBoobies, do gaming w I just love collecting them all!

Basically yeah, every game should have its own launcher

shneancy,

we’re back at square one boys

ILikeBoobies,

Ideally yeah

wreckedcarzz,
@wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world avatar

I just got an incredible idea for a game…

FoxFairline, do gaming w I just love collecting them all!
@FoxFairline@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Dont buy games from AAA publishers and you mostly have steam or GOG.

Better yet. Buy them from Itch.io directly, since indies are better anyway.

GladiusB,
@GladiusB@lemmy.world avatar

Hot take. Steam sucks. I would rather have 10 launchers than deal with Steam’s mismanagement of game resources and hijacking my peripherals.

Oh and there is no financial advantage to it. They can track and use your gaming info and sell it. Just like Netflix.

wreckedcarzz,
@wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world avatar

So what you’re saying is… you want EA to be the dominant force and directional pioneer in PC gaming.

Do you also masturbate to pictures of the Comcast logo?

T00l_shed,

rubbing nipples furiously n…no!

GladiusB,
@GladiusB@lemmy.world avatar

That’s a leap. EA sucks. There are plenty of games out there and there are plenty ways of managing them better than steam. Especially if you know your way around a PC.

wreckedcarzz,
@wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world avatar

It’d be another big player, it’s not going to be some indie startup that suddenly breaks out into the light to dazzle everyone. And all the other players in this space have their own, worse, storefront and launchers…

Just imagine uplay, but with steam/valves loyal userbase and therefore everyone else sold their games on it. shudders

GladiusB,
@GladiusB@lemmy.world avatar

I mean, who cares? Like having 15 launchers is not a real thing for most gamers I know. It’s saved in a cloud server under your profile. Just uninstall after you’re done with a game.

Mango,

What mismanagement? What hijacking?

ADTJ,

I can second the hijacking thing. Steam has its own controller input driver (?) it installs which sometimes clash with the actual drivers for the controller, which can lead to games registering input twice or not at all etc.

You can disable it but sometimes it randomly seems to re-enable itself and it’s super annoying.

GladiusB,
@GladiusB@lemmy.world avatar

Exactly. And it’s completely unnecessary.

Hexarei,
@Hexarei@programming.dev avatar

On the other hand though, Steam Input is really powerful for remapping inputs and setting up controller maps to use for keyboard and mouse games. I’ve never had trouble with it apart from with an old handheld PC that registers its built in controller as an Xbox 360 controller instead of Xbox One

ADTJ,

That’s totally fine but it should be opt in, or just prompt you when you launch the game for the first time. It doesn’t ask and then actively breaks things for some users.

Hexarei,
@Hexarei@programming.dev avatar

Yeah it could definitely be more interactive, but then it would annoy users for the entirely opposite problem. I can see the complaints now in my head: “Steam prompts me about Steam Input before every single game I play! I get it valve” or similar (you and I both know the person would be ignoring some “don’t remind me” option

MonkderZweite,

Itch.io has an API? For integration in unified launchers.

nLuLukna,
@nLuLukna@sh.itjust.works avatar

Love itch.io. it’s what got me into games.

Aceticon,

You don’t even need one for GOG - GOG Galaxy is totally optional and you can download absolutelly run of the mill offline installers for all games on GOG which do not require the installer or any network access, and you even keep the forever and ever (so all your old games are still installable and run on an old gaming computer with the old OS, so long as the hardware hasn’t died).

Furbag, do gaming w I just love collecting them all!

I will say that I’ll take the lesser evil of having an unintrusive launcher for a game that pops up after I select play in Steam (Creative Assembly, Larian, etc.) which can then be closed after the game starts than go back to when everyone wanted you to install a bloated distribution platform to play their specific game (Looking at you Stardock, Uplay, etc.).

TheOakTree,

Absolutely. It is refreshing to start BG3, see the launcher pop up quickly, and watch the loading splash come up right after you choose DX11/Vulkan.

There are, however, many other problems in that game.

nogrub, do gaming w I just love collecting them all!

–skip-launcher

Hexarei,
@Hexarei@programming.dev avatar

Absolutely adore Larian for this one on Baldur’s Gate 3 tbh

CADmonkey,

There’s a lot to like about how BG3 functions.

Hexarei,
@Hexarei@programming.dev avatar

Agreed

Harpsist, do gaming w I just love collecting them all!

Reason number 217 why pirated games are better.

Evotech, do gaming w I just love collecting them all!

But in the shadows of Playnite, one more launcher was made.

One launcher to bind them.

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