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shalafi, do gaming w Video game publishers are starting to use "anti-DEI" as a marketing meme

In both Left for Dead games, somebody had to either play a black person or a woman. Hell, in L4D2 two people had to play a black character, and one was, gasp, a woman.

Got 2,000 hours in both games. Never heard a complaint or even a jokey racist comment. None.

No one whined and the games were a smash success, people still playing.

flamingos, do gaming w Video game publishers are starting to use "anti-DEI" as a marketing meme

Lol, so the “just make good games” crowd need to use bigotry as crunch to salvage their games’ reputation.

Jax,

Yes, marketing schemes often capitulate to the lowest common denominator. This is why Veilguard happened, and it’s why we’ll see some equally atricious dogshit from the opposite end of the spectrum.

tacosanonymous, do gaming w Video game publishers are starting to use "anti-DEI" as a marketing meme
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This is some of the dumbest shit I’ve ever seen. There are plenty of “anti-woke” devs already and they make really shitty games.

newthrowaway20,

I know it’s not video game related, but this made me think of the critical drinker and the god awful ‘non-woke’ movie he made.

SweetCitrusBuzz, do gaming w New Square Enix policy will clamp down on harassers, bigots and "unreasonable" compensation requests
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In my naïve hopes I hoped this could be from stopping harrasment within Square Enix and its development partners, but alas no. It is stopping fans from harrasing, which is good but really they should turn that policy inwards as well.

sic_semper_tyrannis, do gaming w You’ve probably played 2005’s most experimental horror game: Designed as pranks, early internet "screamers" were pioneers

2005… Jeez

petrescatraian, do gaming w You’ve probably played 2005’s most experimental horror game: Designed as pranks, early internet "screamers" were pioneers

@alyaza I hated this so much lmfao

Ignatz, do gaming w You’ve probably played 2005’s most experimental horror game: Designed as pranks, early internet "screamers" were pioneers

archive.org/details/scary-maze-gamewinterrowd

I remember playing this back in the day. I just replayed it, and even though I knew exactly where it was going to pop up, it still startled the s*** out of me, lol.

CaptainBasculin, do gaming w You’ve probably played 2005’s most experimental horror game: Designed as pranks, early internet "screamers" were pioneers

I only know this game by a dude smashing monitor from being jumpscared off of it.

bamboo,
jedibob5, do games w Ancient Chinese RPG The Bustling World is, in fact, all of the genres, from city builder to life sim

Yeah, I’m… skeptical, to say the least. I don’t think any of these sprawling, massively-scoped “everything games” have ever actually lived up to the hype. It’s a problem of pure logistics. Making a game with so many different segments each with entirely unique gameplay loops is essentially like developing more than half a dozen games at once. It’s the problem Spore had - the scope was just too broad, and even with EA and Will Wright behind it, it eventually released as a pretty decent creature creator stapled to four shallow, rushed game stages.

No studio has the resources or inclination to commit to the 10-15+ year development cycle for a single game needed to fit that much scope, and even if they did, the entire game design landscape would have changed between the beginning and the end of the project, which would make major technical and design components of the game obsolete before it was even finished.

I’d put money on this game either becoming vaporware or releasing as a chaotic, disjointed mess with the depth of a puddle. I’d love to see them prove me wrong, but I just don’t see how anyone could overcome those kinds of logistical hurdles.

RebekahWSD,
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I loved what Spore was, and I’m still sad and what it could have been. What we saw at the various shows.

MutilationWave,

The first hour or so of Spore was great. I played that three times and then never touched it again.

Someonelol,
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I think keeping it in an isometric perspective helps to simplify things a lot. The mechanics wouldn’t have to be as immersive and it should allow for more freedom for things to change depending on the player’s preferences. I’m still skeptical but at least it seems they’re going in a reasonable direction.

other_cat,
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Wait, Will Wright worked on Spore?? Wow TIL

jedibob5,

Yeah, he led the design. The whole thing was his brainchild, iirc.

Kolanaki,
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Wrath of the Righteous does it pretty good. The only sub game in the game that kinda sucks is the strategy game for the giant wars toward the end, and it’s more due to the fact that it’s not super robust; it’s just the bare minimum needed for that style of play.

Really that’s the most common flaw I see with “everything games;” they spend too much time putting everything in, but it’s never as fleshed out as it would have been if they focused entirely on one aspect.

Denjin, do games w Ancient Chinese RPG The Bustling World is, in fact, all of the genres, from city builder to life sim

I’ve had it wishlisted for a while because the trailers and screenshots look fantastic. Unsure if the sprawling scope will result in anything ever playable.

My hope is for something akin to a Mount & Blade style RPG but who knows of it’ll ever see the light of day.

DudeImMacGyver, do games w Ancient Chinese RPG The Bustling World is, in fact, all of the genres, from city builder to life sim
@DudeImMacGyver@sh.itjust.works avatar

Is it good though? I guess we’ll find out!

brsrklf, do games w Ancient Chinese RPG The Bustling World is, in fact, all of the genres, from city builder to life sim

That does sound ambitious. I hope they don’t end up biting off more than they can chew and never releasing anything, because this looks promising.

DdCno1, do gaming w Ancient Chinese RPG The Bustling World is, in fact, all of the genres, from city builder to life sim

Scope creep: The game. Trailers do look marvelous, but one has to question how realistic it is that all of these complex systems not only work well on their own, but also manage to form a coherent whole. This could become a trendsetting Indie darling - or more realistically end up as a highly flawed niche title that only manages to find a few dedicated fans that are willing to overlook its issues (if it ever releases).

The developers are entirely unknown - possibly unproven - and the publisher’s only successful games on Steam are an RPG (Tale of Immortal) with just over 50% positive reviews that doesn’t even work if you don’t have your system set to Chinese, an action tower defense game (Outpost: Infinity Siege) with a OpenCritic average of 58 and a 2.5D Cyberpunk RPG (ANNO: Mutationem) that is probably their highest-rated title with an OpenCritic average of 74 and 80% positive reviews.

Before I sound too negative, I hope this title succeeds. I would definitely play it a lot if it manages to deliver on even half of its promises. Art style, perspective and setting remind me of the last classic city builder Emperor: Rise of the Middle Kingdom, building mechanics are reminiscent of various Minecraft-adjacent titles and the multi-genre concept isn’t too dissimilar to The Guild series. All of this is very exciting, but this is exactly the kind of ambition, possibly overambition, that tends to kill studios.

Malgas,

Tale of Immortal […] doesn’t even work if you don’t have your system set to Chinese

I’ve played it (in English, on a US-English Windows install) and I don’t remember having to do anything like that.

DdCno1,

Thanks for the correction. I was going by Steam reviews.

What are your thoughts on the game?

Malgas,

I had fun with it. Can be a bit slow and grindy, as forming a build involves finding the right (randomly generated, periodically refreshed) techniques and studying them. And there’s a big power jump in each area so this process has to be repeated regularly.

I initially got into it when looking for something like Wandering Sword, but as a M&B- or Kenshi-style open world, which it’s not exactly that.

DdCno1,

Alright, thanks. Did you find any other game that manged to scratch this particular itch?

Malgas,

I haven’t.

The Matchless Kungfu certainly looks like Wuxia Kenshi, but I haven’t actually gotten around to trying it.

DdCno1,

Interesting title. It kind of reminds me a little of Overgrowth, but I’m sure you’ve heard of that one already.

Novamdomum, do gaming w Ancient Chinese RPG The Bustling World is, in fact, all of the genres, from city builder to life sim
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I hung around their Discord for ages and the pace of development seemed glacial. It's not that I don't think it will ever come out but it's definitely going to be a while. Gave up following after a few months. Love the aesthetic though and I really hope this one doesn't fizzle out like other titles in my wish list (Road Diner Simulator, B-17 Squadron, Solarpunk, Kerbal Space Program 2 etc.)

DdCno1,

Apart from being slow, what are your impressions of the devs in terms of professionalism and communication?

Rozz, do gaming w Ancient Chinese RPG The Bustling World is, in fact, all of the genres, from city builder to life sim

It got me when there was gta with a horse and cart, and an assassins creed section

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