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ArchmageAzor, do games w Apex Legends writer gets laid off 24 hours after the character she wrote is revealed, because that's what the games industry in 2025 looks like
@ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world avatar

I think at this points it’s better to not join up with a large developer or publisher. The indie market has better job security.

MadBigote,

Or better yet, organize like the Hollywood actors have WGA.

PraiseTheSoup, do games w Apex Legends writer gets laid off 24 hours after the character she wrote is revealed, because that's what the games industry in 2025 looks like

Apex legends? The fully online battle Royale style competitive shooter? Can anyone tell me why a game like this needs a “character writer” anyway? I’ve never played it so maybe there’s some grand story I don’t know about, but to me this sounds like writing a character for Counter Strike which I think we all agree would be completely pointless.

telllos,

I’ll try to explain, I’m not a specialist in the lore of Apex legends. But the game is based in the world of Titanfall. It released in 2019 with a few characters. Each 1 or 2 season bringing a new characters with new abilities and background in the story. They have done a pretty good job so far and I really enjoy each characters.

CS at least back in the day didn’t have a class based gameplay, each characters had the same abilities. So I guess it doesn’t really compare.

DragonTypeWyvern,

It’s more like asking why you need a writer for an Overwatch character than CS. The characterization is half of the point and, more importantly, sales on cosmetics, compared to CS/Halo/MW/Whatever

eestileib, do games w Apex Legends writer gets laid off 24 hours after the character she wrote is revealed, because that's what the games industry in 2025 looks like

I was gonna get snooty about being an indie game buyer, then I remembered that I bought a Larian game developed in partnership with Hasbro, so my snootiness will have to wait for another day.

Ibuthyr,

Hasbro is a requirement for the D&D license, no?

Larian at least went against the grain of the AAAAA Industry and delivered something truly wonderful.

sugar_in_your_tea,

Sure, but they’re still a AAA studio since BG3 is a AAA game. AAA studios can absolutely create wonderful games.

Sanctus, do games w Apex Legends writer gets laid off 24 hours after the character she wrote is revealed, because that's what the games industry in 2025 looks like
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Bullshit like this is why our industry is a mess, Nintendo may be greedy fucks but their code is good because the same dudes have been working there since the fucken 80s.

chemical_cutthroat,
@chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world avatar

I mean, if you want to emulate a corporate ethos, I don’t think Japan should be the benchmark, either…

NOT_RICK,
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Their crunch culture is def bad (they’re going to kill Sakurai one day), but there is quite a few things they do right. They don’t lay people off and their executives take accountability. Iwata took a significant pay cut when the Wii U flopped.

ampersandrew,
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They can’t lay people off, so they just put them in a room with no work to do until they get so bored that they quit. It’s the same thing but different.

pennomi,

I’ll take my chances with the boredom room.

TheGoldenGod,
@TheGoldenGod@lemmy.world avatar

Exactly, I would start taking naps and watch movies. You can’t bore or shame me into quitting, the second I know it’s a game, I will be breaking a b**** lol

Caesium,

forreal I write as a hobby and I spend as much free time at work sticking it to the boss by writing lol. if they literally handed me a room with little stimuli and let me bring my notebook in I’d be living

Cort,

Just making sure you realize the company would have the copyright for anything you create while on the clock…

Sanctus,
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“Fuck, well, publish it as another light novel. I’m sure they’ll quit soon.”

Redjard,
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Ah your next novel is done? Make sure noone reads it, it would diminish the value of the tax-writeoff when we delete it.

yetAnotherUser,

You wouldn’t have a notebook. Any and all stimuli would be banned as the purpose is making your experience horrible.

Also, you get incredibly mundane tasks as well. Maybe you’ll get a couple sheets of random symbols and are tasked to count a certain letter. And if you don’t do this task you can be laid off for underperforming.

samus12345,

Whatever you do, please don’t throw me in the briar patch boredom room!

JcbAzPx,

Why would I quit my dream job? Getting paid so sit doing nothing is my life long goal.

tiredofsametab,

In Japan, the barrier to firing workers is much higher than in many other places. Even layoffs for financial reasons are tough and can be challenged. This is one reason companies sit on hordes of cash here is to weather financial issues, but it also has negative economic impacts as well. That said, Nintendo are a bunch of greedy cunts IMO, and I try never to buy anything new from them anymore (just buying used where they don't get a cut).

Semjaza,

In the US the barrier to firing workers is much lower than in other countries. Even layoffs for purely arbitrary or personal reasons are easy and hard to challenge in courts. This is one of the reasons companies have little free capital and choose to lay off many workers as soon as the market looks to be turning. But it also has positive economic impacts as well. That said, EA are a bunch of greedy cunts, and I try never to buy anything new from them anymore (just buying used where they don’t get a cut, if they released any games worth owning).

pulido,

I think a lot of what comes out of Japan is better than the West because they haven’t given up their idea of the company man.

Like it or not, having to switch jobs every few years is going to impact your performance.

Most of you have no idea how much easier it is to process information when you accept that you’ll be doing it the same way for decades.

desktop_user,

at least the west is starting to acknowledge the torturous monotony of doing the same job for decades.

pulido,

Lots of people prefer the comfort of familiarity.

RedditIsDeddit, do games w Apex Legends writer gets laid off 24 hours after the character she wrote is revealed, because that's what the games industry in 2025 looks like

We should pay way more attention to other industries.

simop_jo, do games w Apex Legends writer gets laid off 24 hours after the character she wrote is revealed, because that's what the games industry in 2025 looks like

That’s sad and disgusting.

tagoth, do games w Apex Legends writer gets laid off 24 hours after the character she wrote is revealed, because that's what the games industry in 2025 looks like

This is why we need to have 90 dollar games! /s

Apex is literally free to play

MyDarkestTimeline01,

Don’t be pedantic you know what they meant.

Empricorn,

The exact opposite of what they said?

ChickenAndRice, do games w Skin Deep review - Blendo's first game in seven years is a small triumph.
@ChickenAndRice@sh.itjust.works avatar

I remember having fun playing the demo, but felt the humor was too Taika Waititi-ish for my tastes.

Glad to see it’s out, of course.

CaptainBasculin, do games w Apex Legends writer gets laid off 24 hours after the character she wrote is revealed, because that's what the games industry in 2025 looks like

Had over a thousand hours in Apex, while I quit way back because of different reasons, their actions definitely are not going to bring me back

Tuxman, do games w Apex Legends writer gets laid off 24 hours after the character she wrote is revealed, because that's what the games industry in 2025 looks like

And then they feed the documents to a LLM and iterate over it

Kazumara, do games w Apex Legends writer gets laid off 24 hours after the character she wrote is revealed, because that's what the games industry in 2025 looks like

I hope these CEO’s get their reckoning some way some day.

They seem to think it’s all just business and cruelly wielding power is no issue, but I think they overestimate how isolated they are.

rayquetzalcoatl,
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They won’t get any kind of reckoning that we’ll understand. They’re rich, powerful, and insulated from pain. They’ve all got golden parachutes via their weaselly networks. There will be no karma, unfortunately.

pulido,

I don’t think they will receive a reckoning, but their children might.

It’s especially disgusting when we realize rich people are setting their children up to inherit a world where everyone hates them for being rich from exploitation.

grue,

If we want them to receive a reckoning, it’s on us, the working class, to force it to happen.

MyDarkestTimeline01, do games w Apex Legends writer gets laid off 24 hours after the character she wrote is revealed, because that's what the games industry in 2025 looks like

On the one hand it sucks that a writer lost their job. And it’ll never not suck. On the other hand I love when Apex Legends looks bad. I lost Titanfall 3 for that?

Baguette,

In a better universe apex and tf3 could have existed at the same time

Unfortunately we live in the universe where games as a live service is the only model that big companies run on, which means all resources must go to just that one game

Duamerthrax, do games w Apex Legends writer gets laid off 24 hours after the character she wrote is revealed, because that's what the games industry in 2025 looks like

Apex has a story?

arudesalad,

It’s a spinoff from titanfall, a series with a lot of cool world building, it would be a bit weird to have no story at all.

It’s also a live service so they need to copy fortnite have an in game explanation for the updates

IronKrill,
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No, they have “lore”: a bunch of inconclusive and loosely connected animation shorts, vague plot points, and character bios that give just enough of a reason for their seasonal events to occur and for fans to drool over. Just like every other live service.

Duamerthrax,

While I feel sorry for her as a worker, I do not feel sorry for her as a writer.

Live Service writing for AAA studios has got to be the most disposable form of fiction. I can find old short stories from magazines that closed close to a century ago, but I can’t play the Destiny series from start to finish today?

EnderLaw, do games w Apex Legends writer gets laid off 24 hours after the character she wrote is revealed, because that's what the games industry in 2025 looks like

TL,DR: Company fires hundreds of workers. CEO makes $25.6 million.

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