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wolfshadowheart, do gaming w The Pokémon Company Announces It Will ‘Investigate’ Palworld IP And Assets
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Some of them seem pretty bad. I feel like the example image with the eyes and the teeth is quite a damning stylistic choice, compared to some of their other monsters which look more like a palette swap and animal change with some model variations. Save for the few that straight up have the same attack, like the Deciduueye example, I think it's reasonable enough to use them for inspiration, although not necessarily the best option. It's a shame they felt the need to rely on something that is popular I think it hurt them a bit by not having as uniform a vision.

That said, even if I do think it's pretty obvious I don't want them to lose this if anything comes of it, Pokemon is just as bad and they have nothing to gain from ruining this persons work other than asserting dominance.

I do hope they use this as a learning opportunity for next time and maybe stop being so goddamn blatant in their "homage". I would have been much more inclined to the game if it felt like the monsters had some rationale behind them because the game is pretty solid overall. All I can say is that I hope the game continues to exist but maybe gets a more original in-world bestiary and not Pokemon Gen 15

TwilightVulpine, (edited )

Calling this one image damning feels like corporatized media has become so dominant, people don't really get anymore how similar things need to be for it to be an actual legal issue.

Superhero comics have a lot of characters that are obvious ripoffs of characters from other publishers and yet they are still legally distinct enough that they can get away with it. Comes to mind also how Walt Disney created Mickey Mouse to replace Oswald the Lucky Rabbit which, even though he also created, was owned by Universal. Both were rubber hose-styled. black-bodied, white-faced, big-eared animal characters wearing shorts, and yet that was also legally distinct enough for his ownership of the character to be established.

It would take far more than a similar face for Palworld to be liable of anything. Sure, it's enough for people to tell they have tried to imitate it, but by itself that's not grounds for legal action.

There are some claims of copying or tracing meshes going around on social media that could be an actual issue, but the validity of those is still questionable. The Pokémon Company needs to either point out a near identical design, and I do emphasize, near identical, or to prove that stolen assets were used in the game's creation.

saplyng,
@saplyng@kbin.social avatar

I'd argue against the example image being damning in the first place because it's fairly obvious they're both derived from the Cheshire Cat from Alice in Wonderland, which is well passed the point of being public domain

TwilightVulpine,

Not only that but they have entirely different body shapes and color schemes. I doubt a face by itself could be copyrighted. If that was the case a lot of anime would have issues.

Gordon_Freeman,
@Gordon_Freeman@kbin.social avatar

The thing is they literally took pokemon 3D assets, edited them a little and that's all

Because pals look like this

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/TOedaV033DY/maxresdefault.jpg

but now IN 3D!!!
Pals
https://imgur.com/PbtJxRr

They took Serperior head+ Milotic body and Primarina hair

https://nintenduo.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/Palworld-Plagio-Pokemon-03-1024x576.webp

self-explanatory

For the thumbnail image, they took meoth face, purugly body and that's it

These designs are not "inspired" they simply imported the assets from a pokemon game on blender or something, used "copy and paste" for different body parts and that's it, job done that's their completely original creature, totally not copied

TwilightVulpine,

The person in social media who extracted and compared assets admitted they modified them to appear more similar because they didn't like how the game promotes animal cruelty.

One thing that a lot of people don't seem to realize in this whole discussion is that, whatever you may think of it as far as artistic integrity goes, Pokémon only owns the full complete design of their characters and the actual game files, but not every possible independently produced variation or recombination of those traits. They own Wooloo but they don't own every possible roundish sheep-like creature.

To be fair it's obvious that Palworld's company Pocket Pair doesn't care about originality. But whether the are literally infringing on the Pokémon property is unclear, and a lot of people are making serious but baseless accusations out of snowballing social media outrage.

If there's any actual, real issue that warrants a lawsuit, you can be sure that the Pokémon Company's lawyers will find it out. It's not like they need anyone to defend them, we are literally talking about the biggest media brand in the world.

UnfortunateShort, do games w ‘Baldur’s Gate 3’ Studio CEO Refutes Ubisoft’s Subscription Model Comments

The industry chases whatever makes the most money. It’s the artists who are fortunate and/or hardworking enough to not do that who I aspire - and who’s games I want to play.

JoeKrogan, do games w ‘Baldur’s Gate 3’ Studio CEO Refutes Ubisoft’s Subscription Model Comments
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I refuse to support streaming games or subscription models as they only screw the consumer in the end. These companies have shown time and time again they are not to be trusted.

Such as editing games after release to remove media, inserting shitty launchers and DRM , removing content you have paid for such as dlc, shutting off the multiplayer servers etc

Once they have the market streaming they can set the price as they wish and you will have to have mutiple subs to play different games. Were seeing this with movie and tv streaming now.

They don’t care about preservation just the CREAM … dollar dollar bill y’all

Valve is good for now and I support them to help further linux for us all but gaben is not immortal so who knows what the future holds.

I like gog but as a linux only gamer steam is just way less hassle.

Emulation and roms is the only way to be sure you can continue to play your games. So get building your collection.

MudMan, do games w ‘Baldur’s Gate 3’ Studio CEO Refutes Ubisoft’s Subscription Model Comments
@MudMan@kbin.social avatar

I agree that dev to user is best, and I agree that the current greenlight processes for game publishers are pretty busted, no arguments there. I also have bigger issues with the sub model he's not even mentioning.

In fairness, though, I think for majors with that busted greenlight process the sub model does enable some games to get made that wouldn't otherwise. Some games just don't work at full price and just can't stack up to the major productions but they do get checked out in a sub. For smaller games and devs the sub money can guarantee survival.

But that doesn't take away that a subscription-dominated market is poorer, the preservation issues or any of the other problems with that being the primary thrust. Tech guys tend to be all-in on things and think they should be THE way because more money is more optimal and if they dominate then that's more money. In reality for a content ecosystem to thrive a multi-window ecosystem is probably best. Also, I want to buy games I can own, and the less they let me do that the more I want it, so... there's that.

NOT_RICK,
@NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

I have no problem with subscriptions as they are right now, my issue is a potential future where I am not given the opportunity outright buy the games I want to play.

IWantToFuckSpez,

Game subscriptions will never stay as they are right now. Microsoft is basically burning money with GamePass they aren’t making a penny. Currently they are wining and dining the devs with big checks, but once MS has cornered the market they won’t be handing out these big bags of cash anymore. And they will definitely raise their prices. It’s big tech disruption tactics 101. Undercut the competition and go into the red until the competition throws in the towel then lower cost and increase the prices.

Ashtear,

I always tell people concerned about this sort of thing to look at how cable TV still exists long after obsolescence. The content delivery system won’t dry up before the content you want does (at least not in your lifetime).

sneezycat,
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Yeah, but much of the cable content is lost to time. That’s why we have stories like that of Marion Stokes, who collected tapes at her home and preserved hundreds of thousands of hours of news footage.

vrek,

For when things go bad look at early episodes of doctor who… en.wikipedia.org/…/Doctor_Who_missing_episodes

Ashtear,

Sure, and the amount of lost PBS footage alone due to draconian copyright restrictions borders on criminal.

The point isn’t on the quality of the distribution method. Even if it was, preservation efforts for games that qualify for the concept of game ownership are far more advanced. The point is that when an entertainment industry gets this big, it takes the deaths of multiple generations for the market to dry up.

neo,

Are there examples for a games that wouldn’t exist without subscription services?

Small games can sell for smaller money and get successful without subscriptions, too (like Vampire Survivors, Hellblade: Senua’s Sacrifice and many more).

I don’t think subscription services will pay good money to small productions. I mean look at Spotify’s or Twitch’ payouts. Only the big dogs get fed and the smaller ones have no choice.

Cyberflunk, do games w WB’s ‘Ready Player One’ Blockchain, VR, AR, AI ‘Readyverse’ Will Of Course Be A Disaster

Torment Nexus strikes again

MargotRobbie, do games w WB’s ‘Ready Player One’ Blockchain, VR, AR, AI ‘Readyverse’ Will Of Course Be A Disaster
@MargotRobbie@lemmy.world avatar

Not even going to joke about this, but I am really hoping nobody there gets the bright idea to make a Barbie blockchain or NFT or anything like that.

Speaking of “Ready Player One”, the author Ernest Cline also wrote literally the absolute worst, grossest, most misogynistic poem I’ve ever had the displeasure of reading in my life. Now you’ll have to read it too to make sure the “Reqdyverse” never succeed and thus, zero possibility of Barbie blockchain.

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/5acb501a-d3d9-43e1-9ee6-927297f2e453.jpeg

Squizzy,

This was really sad and arrogant

m13,

That was so fucking weird and gross. Thank you for sharing.

SomethingBurger,

bruh just search for “homemade” on PornHub

ICastFist,
@ICastFist@programming.dev avatar

lol wtf

Dunno when he made that (1990s? Early 2000s?), but nowadays even those “nerdy, smart” women are easy to find in porn. Hentai also has that in droves.

SomethingBurger,

Late 90’s but I couldn’t find an exact date (I didn’t look very hard).

notannpc, do games w WB’s ‘Ready Player One’ Blockchain, VR, AR, AI ‘Readyverse’ Will Of Course Be A Disaster

WB execs are currently in the #1 position on the list of dumbest motherfuckers of 2024. And boy are they setting the bar REALLY high.

alienanimals, do games w WB’s ‘Ready Player One’ Blockchain, VR, AR, AI ‘Readyverse’ Will Of Course Be A Disaster

Ernest Cline is a sellout who got lucky piggybacking off the success of popular franchises. I’ve seen high schoolers write better than that guy.

inb4_FoundTheVegan, (edited )
@inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world avatar

It’s easily the worst book I’ve read, and I only finished because of the unintentional hilarity of it all. In a story ostensibly about how evil media mega corporations are, the author wrote a hail corporateove love letter to top selling franchises without realizing the irony.

There was potential in it being a self parody, although in a way the whe situation is funnier because he was so earnest.

jasondj,

I spent my first audible credit on that book. I hadn’t seen the movie…still haven’t. But it was narrated by Wil Wheaton, and I knew him from reddit. He did a good job. That’s all I have to say about it.

Fredselfish,
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Same only way I heard it and the movie sucked ass. He is a sellout won’t even touch the second one.

m13,

It’s a blur to me now but I just remember so many forced 80s references, and the plot was basic. Fan fiction vibes.

TwilightVulpine,

Ironically I found the megacorp produced movie version much more palatable both because it wasn’t stuck on making that which the author liked the only media worth obssessing about, it showed that fans of all eras enjoyed themselves equally in that world. And because it gave more of a human core to Halliday’s quests and the plot, rather than it just being about who’s more of a fanboy gets rich and gets the girl.

Seeing the book describe how Wade is so great at reciting every line of War Games just took me out of it. Am I supposed to be impressed by this second hand fawning over a different story? Is there even a point to that beyond Halliday/Ernest Cline thinking it’s cool?

LeiaO42,

I agree. I couldn’t get through the first 10 pages.

Since I haven’t seen it mentioned anywhere else in the comments, I thought I’d leave this here: 372pages.com/episode-0-a-book-were-probably-going…

“372 Pages We’ll Never Get Back” is a podcast where Mike Nelson (MST3K, Rifftrax) and Conor Lastoka (Rifftrax) read and review books they’re “pretty sure they’re going to hate”. RP1 is the first book & source of the podcast title, since it’s 372 pages. It’s like Mystery Science Theater 3000 for books and it is hilarious, I highly recommend.

nick, do games w WB’s ‘Ready Player One’ Blockchain, VR, AR, AI ‘Readyverse’ Will Of Course Be A Disaster

I can’t wait for this

To utterly fail

CharlesReed, do games w WB’s ‘Ready Player One’ Blockchain, VR, AR, AI ‘Readyverse’ Will Of Course Be A Disaster

I'm sorry, the what?

Bakkoda,

Yeah i know I’m getting old when i have no idea what the headline means and I’ve only read the book. 🧐

YurkshireLad, do games w WB’s ‘Ready Player One’ Blockchain, VR, AR, AI ‘Readyverse’ Will Of Course Be A Disaster

The book was crap so I wouldn’t expect anything else. I honestly think it was one of the worst books I’ve read.

meyotch,

It was a quick read and the entire book can be summed up as generational pandering.

xyguy, do games w WB’s ‘Ready Player One’ Blockchain, VR, AR, AI ‘Readyverse’ Will Of Course Be A Disaster

Y’all know that Ready Player One was a DYS-topia right guys?

Marsupial,
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brsrklf,

I didn’t know that meme, and the original tweet is funny and really hits the nail on the head for a lot of things…

But from what I’ve seen of the movie, Ready Player One is more like “Please create the Oasis, so that asshole can have fun”.

TwilightVulpine,

Yep, Ernest Cline was always pro Torment Nexus.

jjjalljs,

Snowcrash was a dystopia too but that didn’t stop tech bros from jerking it to the metaverse.

ICastFist,
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I think most govts and corporations see the word “dystopia” and understand “how-to manual”

spacecowboy, do gaming w ‘The Day Before’ Developer Shuts Down Four Days After Launch

Ah the age old pump n dump.

garretble, do games w ‘Fortnite’ Has Actually Made The Metaverse After Everyone Else Quit
@garretble@lemmy.world avatar

If Fortnite is the definition of “metaverse” we are using now, then woof.

BloodSlut,

true, but it is surely a testament to how miserably Zucky has failed

garretble,
@garretble@lemmy.world avatar

That true. He did fail spectacularly.

zipzoopaboop, do gaming w ‘The Walking Dead’ Just Released A Shocking, Hilariously Bad Game

Par for the course. Walking dead releases garbage after garbage, all downhill since the telltale game

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