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ChaoticEntropy, do games w Founder of Arkane Studios: "I think Gamepass is an unsustainable model that has been increasingly damaging the industry for a decade"; impacts sales
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Sooo… Gamepass is one of the services that is driving up the price of the non-gamepass versions of those games, right? They’ve got to recoup costs somehow, and then the rest of the industry takes that as an opportunity to consider these inflated prices as the new baseline.

Tillman,

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  • Ledivin,

    The market has also increased 1000-times over, while simultaneously removing physical barriers entirely. The development itself is more expensive, sure, but distribution is way cheaper and the potential gains have increased at a much quicker rate, especially for smaller games.

    M137, do gaming w You would think the dinosaurs would have been a greater discovery then the artifact she is chasing
    @M137@lemmy.world avatar

    than*

    ironhydroxide, do gaming w You would think the dinosaurs would have been a greater discovery then the artifact she is chasing

    Then the artifact what?

    vxx, do games w The signatures are still coming and it's already making an impact

    It needs way more people, because I guess a lot of people from all over the world used VPNs to sign the petition and will get nullified.

    So if you planned to do it, don’t, you will hurt your goals more than you’re doing an good.

    randombullet, do gaming w I have about 55 hours of flights coming up. I’m thinking about the deus ex collection. Any thoughts?

    If you want to be very sad or maybe inspired, spiritfarer was excellent. The two Oris are great time sinks. Horizon Zero Dawn ran fine on my deck but chews battery life.

    SteposVenzny, do gaming w I have about 55 hours of flights coming up. I’m thinking about the deus ex collection. Any thoughts?

    Deus Ex is great but 55 hours of having nothing to do but Deus Ex sounds overwhelming. Grab UFO 50 as well so you have some low-commitment alternatives to fall back on.

    neon_nova,

    Thanks! I have about 750gb of space for games, so I’m going to make sure I’m loaded with options.

    SteposVenzny,

    There’s like an emotional component to it, though. Having lots of options doesn’t necessarily feel like lots of options. Deus Ex and hundreds of gigs of not Deus Ex feels like a yes or no decision, trying one of the multitude of other options being psychically equivalent just turning the machine off. At least in my experience.

    Hence the suggestion of a compilation. Multiple other games but connected to each other to form a greater whole. Five minutes of Balatro and five minutes of One Way Heroics feels like ten minutes of not playing Deus Ex, whereas five minutes of Magic Garden and five minutes of Mortol feels like ten minutes of UFO 50.

    AlteredEgo, do games w Founder of Arkane Studios: "I think Gamepass is an unsustainable model that has been increasingly damaging the industry for a decade"; impacts sales

    Isn’t this an old strategy of microsoft? Dump shitload of money into a market, then once you captured a significant portion start the enshittification.

    DeathsEmbrace,

    Except now it’s just spyware

    dantheclamman,
    @dantheclamman@lemmy.world avatar

    It is classic tech company strategy.

    We saw it with Amazon offering suspicious deals for years on name brand stuff to kill competitors. Uber offering subsidized rides to kill taxis. Google Photos offering unlimited free storage

    If it seems too good to be true, check under your feet and see if there’s a rug there.

    AlexLost,

    Of Microsoft? That’s like business 101 my dude, and mostly why business schools should be burned to the ground. The system we have stifles innovation and promotes greed. We fucked.

    burgerpocalyse, do games w Founder of Arkane Studios: "I think Gamepass is an unsustainable model that has been increasingly damaging the industry for a decade"; impacts sales

    is there anyone making any money from video games at this point?

    ICastFist,
    @ICastFist@programming.dev avatar

    Mobile gacha shit

    rumba,
    1. Publishers. They always get their buck.

    Studios get gobbled up, mass layoff, explode and reform month by month.

    1. Game engines. Nobody is going to even try to reinvent that wheel. Unreal and Unity make a fuckton of cash whether a game does or not. Yeah I hear you, but but but they have income limits, studios release one good ish title, they’re expected to pay like it’ll always happen.
    2. Stores. At least until recently there was not even a slight challenge against the stores control. Now with Apple versus Epic, everybody’s dying to funnel people into their own payment system, But honestly, stores are still making all the money, there’s still the primary method of advertising that works and they still hold all the cards for making sure you show up in their “searches”.

    If you manage to bottle lightning the studio makes a fuck ton of money, assuming you haven’t already sold your soul to venture capital. (Hint, If it’s more than two guys in a garage, they’ve already all sold their sole adventure capital)

    Adalast,

    On 2) Godot has entered the chat.

    rumba,

    They really need to. I haven’t looked at them in quite a while now last time I looked I was hoping to move some Unity stuff over there, But it seem like anything other than Android was a significant hurdle.

    Adalast,

    I am subscribed here on Lemmy and they seem to be progressing quite a bit. I am not a game dev myself, but I have some ideas I have been contemplating dabbling in on there.

    rumba,

    Looked them up. they JUST released something promising for IOS

    christianselig.com/2025/05/godot-ios-interop/

    You still need a lot of third-party help to get on a console, though.

    the16bitgamer, do gaming w I have about 55 hours of flights coming up. I’m thinking about the deus ex collection. Any thoughts?
    @the16bitgamer@programming.dev avatar

    I’d personally aim for something like Civ. Long play sessions, but can be put down if needed

    neon_nova,

    Yeah! I’ll look into civ 7, but maybe I’ll just stick with civ 5 or 6

    the16bitgamer,
    @the16bitgamer@programming.dev avatar

    5 is older so uses less resources

    byzxor, do gaming w I have about 55 hours of flights coming up. I’m thinking about the deus ex collection. Any thoughts?
    @byzxor@beehaw.org avatar

    The Deus Ex games are all great (YMMV with Invisible War tho). I’m currently going through the Dishonored series and at least the first one should be fairly nice on the SteamDeck battery, but that might be one imm-sim too many 😆

    As an aside: how do you find using the SteamDeck while flying? I also have to do such long flights to go to my home country but for me the SteamDeck is just really uncomfortable after about 45 minutes of use.

    neon_nova,

    I’ve never been on a long flight like this without charging outlets in the plane, so I don’t think it will be a problem.

    bort,

    Lucky. I just had 26h with no power outlets (well, there was a usb-a but that stopped working 😂).

    Sidhean, do games w Founder of Arkane Studios: "I think Gamepass is an unsustainable model that has been increasingly damaging the industry for a decade"; impacts sales

    backlog gamepass would be hype. Like, this whole thing is shit and old game should probably cycle into the public domain; if a corp put work into keeping old games playable, how cool would that be?

    ICastFist,
    @ICastFist@programming.dev avatar

    “But if you offer all these old games to play, why would anyone bother buying the new stuff?” - some corpo director

    slimerancher, do games w Day 355 of posting a Daily Screenshot from the games I've been playing
    @slimerancher@lemmy.world avatar

    10 days to go! 😀

    fmstrat,

    Everyone is waiting for this. There needs to be a party.

    slimerancher,
    @slimerancher@lemmy.world avatar

    Hope we aren’t putting too much pressure on a guy who just wants to share screenshots of the game he is playing.

    Blackmist, do games w Founder of Arkane Studios: "I think Gamepass is an unsustainable model that has been increasingly damaging the industry for a decade"; impacts sales

    I think it was Netflix that went through a period of releasing movies in cinemas and putting it on streaming on day one.

    It was such a resounding success that they no longer do that.

    I guess MS has deep enough pockets to not realise their folly yet. PSN Premium/Extra isn’t as good value from a consumer point of view, but it also hasn’t killed their own console. What that cannibalises is the “wait for a sale” people, who would likely have paid £20 for a game a year or two down the line. I think that’s a more manageable than losing all the day one £65 sales.

    rumba,

    I thought that was during Covid.

    I’m honestly surprised that movie theaters even exist still. Motion picture groups basically starve the theaters to the point where they can only survive off of concessions. The places are almost universally dirty and understaffed. Most of the mom and pop shops died off decades ago.

    Blackmist,

    According to Wikipedia, they started it in 2015 with Beasts of No Nation and stopped in 2018 with Roma.

    Lots of others did it during covid though.

    The last time I actually enjoyed a cinema was a tiny little place in Iceland that appeared to have two screens, a ticket stand and a snack stand, and had one old guy running between all of them like a novelty act. This is how a cinema should be, not some horrible 12 screen thing showing the same Marvel shite at 20 minute intervals.

    We did see Die Hard 4 though, so it wasn’t all fun and games. Still it could have been worse. It could have been Die Hard 5…

    Tillman,

    And as an industry they return less than the sp500 so not only is movie viewing horrible, movie making is a terrible investment .

    Nalivai, do games w The signatures are still coming and it's already making an impact

    Anti-murder laws are cuttailing my choice! What if I someday would like to make a choice to murder someone?

    lemmy_outta_here,

    Yes! When I read that, I immediately thought “curtailing developer choice is exactly the point.”

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