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verdare, do gaming w PoE 2, lets goo

I just saw the title and the image wasn’t loading. I thought this was about Power over Ethernet.

exu, do gaming w PoE 2, lets goo

Pillars of Eternity 2 has been out for years

/s

ICastFist, do games w Can anyone suggest some good co-op games for two people?
@ICastFist@programming.dev avatar

Earth Defense Force. You can probably get 4.1 on a sale really cheap and that could be a decent introduction to the series as a whole, it also has the best overall story tone in my opinion, made of 110% grade B cheese

If you two enjoy it and don’t feel burnt out, you can later get EDF 5, which has several QoL updates compared to 4.1, but tends to have a higher price.

chickenf622,

This 100% it’s so fun to laugh at how ridiculous the story and gameplay is with a friend. Plus each class truly feels unique in how you play them, so you have 4 play styles to choose from.

noughtnaut, (edited ) do games w What games popularized certain mechanics?
@noughtnaut@lemmy.world avatar

Dune II - basically the grandfather of every RTS game out there (and incidentally very, very different from Dune I): opposing forces, resource collection, tech tree, fog of war, et cetera. Or perhaps it was (not World of) Warcraft, it’s been too long and memory gets fuzzy.

NostraDavid,
@NostraDavid@programming.dev avatar

Dune I and II were in development in parallel. One of them was cancelled (don’t remember which one), but they forgot to tell the company, IIRC.

preussiske

???

Warcraft 1 came after Dune (and Blizzard were big fans, IIRC), either way. It enabled multi-selection (based on spreadsheet programs, IIRC).

noughtnaut,
@noughtnaut@lemmy.world avatar

Sorry about the surprise prussians. I was never any good at typing on glass, I much prefer an actual keyboard.

bruhsoulz, do games w What games popularized certain mechanics?
@bruhsoulz@lemmy.ml avatar

Doom or Wolfenstein birthed 3d fps I’m p sure 😁

frezik,

I’d put it at Quake.

Wolf3d is an evolution of Hovertank 3D, which had flat shading for walls, floors, and ceilings. Wolf3d then has textured walls but still flat shading on the floors and ceilings. Some other games came out after Wolf3d that had textures floors and ceilings while id worked on Doom.

Doom not only had textured everything, but also stairs. Trick was, you couldn’t develop a level that had a hallway going over another hallway. Not enough computer horsepower yet to pull that off. This is sometimes called “2.5D”.

Quake brings everything together. Everything’s texture mapped, your levels have true height with things built over other things, and the character models are even fully 3d rendered.

Cypher, (edited ) do games w What games popularized certain mechanics?

Elite was the first game to utilize procedural generation, which has been extremely popular across multiple genres.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elite_(video_game)

guinnessworldrecords.com/…/first-use-of-procedura…

While some might not consider it a game mechanic I certainly do, as gaming the proceduraly created levels is a core part of certain games, see mapping tactics in Diablo 2 for example as you use knowledge of procedural generation to reduce the time to find and kill bosses!

johannesvanderwhales,

Rogue and Hack both predate elite.

Cypher,

See I thought of Rogue first but trusted the Guiness book of world records! I guess they need to be corrected

somnuz, do games w What games popularized certain mechanics?

This is a fantastic timeline if you want to go into details.

ApollosArrow,

I was hoping an article existed!

acosmichippo, (edited ) do games w What games popularized certain mechanics?
@acosmichippo@lemmy.world avatar

funny how no one even mentioned World of Warcraft for MMOs because it’s too obvious.

Grangle1,

There were popular MMOs before WoW, such as Runescape and Everquest. WoW just took a popular genre and rocketed it into the stratusphere.

bitjunkie,

I tried UO, AC, EQ1+2 and can say that WoW’s beloved IP, look and feel, and relative lack of clunkiness in the controls and animations were big differentiators for me.

dogslayeggs,

The question was, “what games popularized certain mechanics.” The question was not, “what games created or introduced certain mechanics.”

Yes, there were other MMOs before WoW, but WoW took MMOs to a completely new level of popularity. I didn’t play ANY MMOs before WoW and wasn’t really interested to, but it was so popular that I jumped on to see what the deal was. Since then I have played ESO, LOTRO, AOC, and one other whose name I forget.

Other MMOs were popular among gaming nerds before WoW, but WoW made MMOs popular to normal people.

djsoren19,

because it’s flat out wrong. WoW aped most of its systems from Everquest, which most of WoW’s development team was actively playing. They made some improvements on the genre, but the bones existed as early as 1997 with Ultima Online.

sushibowl,

WoW was like the iPhone of MMOs. Didn’t invent anything, just put it all together in a coherent, accessible, user friendly package.

acosmichippo,
@acosmichippo@lemmy.world avatar

the question was “popularized” not “invented”.

djsoren19,

I promise you, Everquest was plenty popular at the time, and it didn’t invent those things either.

acosmichippo,
@acosmichippo@lemmy.world avatar

sure, we can quibble on the threshold of “popular” here. but you can’t question that WOW caused an absolute explosion in MMOs after it. not like anything before.

rustyfish, do games w What games popularized certain mechanics?
@rustyfish@lemmy.world avatar

Don’t know if this counts, but Resident Evil 4 killed off the tank controls and single-handedly popularised third person cameras for survival horror games.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

Resident Evil 4 still had tank controls, but it moved the camera behind the back. Unlike dual analog third person shooters at the time, it did have one major innovation: it moved the character to the left side of the screen so you could more easily see what’s in front of you.

catloaf,

I think Halo was what popularized the twin stick controls.

djsoren19,

Not even just survival horror, RE4 was a landmark title just as a third-person action shooter. It had a huge influence on the generation of third person shooters that came after it.

cyberpunk007, do games w What games popularized certain mechanics?

Souls games. Popularized invasions.

rustydrd,
@rustydrd@sh.itjust.works avatar

Perfect example that “popularized” is different from “popular”.

scutiger,

And also the concept of your collection of souls being recoverable from your last point of death.

I know the “death bag” mechanic had been done before, but the disappearing cache is a core element of Soulslike gameplay that has been repeated so many times since then. It adds a sense of urgency and FOMO to the recovery of your stuff. If you die again, it’s gone for good.

kibiz0r, do games w Looking for Overwatch alternatives

Splatoon is great if you have Switches.

Helldivers 2 is PvE but is a great group experience.

Extraction shooters might be a thing? Hunt: Showdown?

dandroid, do games w What’s a game you can 100% without hating by the end?

I just got 100% on Nier Automata, and I only loved it more as I played it more. Usually I hate any grinding in any game and will either skip any content that requires grinding, use mods to bypass it, or just put down the game and move on to another one. But the whole game just felt so damn good. I could just walk around for hours doing nothing because the movement felt so good.

There was quite a bit of grinding, but I didn’t find any of it too bad. I got 100% in about 50 hours, which is my sweet spot. Any longer and I feel like the game is dragging on.

tacosanonymous, do games w What is your opinion about Read dead redemtion 1 in terms of graphics by todays standards?
@tacosanonymous@lemm.ee avatar

It’s not as beautiful as the sequel but infinitely more fun to play imo.

Milan77,

I’m definitely going to try it 😊

Zarxrax,

Having not played either one of them yet, what do you think makes the first one so much better?

tacosanonymous,
@tacosanonymous@lemm.ee avatar

It plays like a shooter. It’s silly and fun. I don’t have to travel as far or do cowboy sim bs.

RangerJosie,

So you missed the point of both games entirely.

Just say that up front in future discussions.

If you want murderhobo simulator GTAOnline and RDOnline are for you.

essteeyou,

Are you really telling this person to enjoy something a particular way, otherwise they’re wrong?

RangerJosie,

Yes. Now off you fuck.

essteeyou,

But wait, you seem like a really nice person that I want to talk to some more.

RangerJosie,

I generally am pretty chill. But RDR2 is the single single best game Rockstar will ever make. It’s a top 5 of all time. Story and gameplay. World building. Just all of it.

essteeyou,

I love the game.

Essence_of_Meh, do games w Why was Tommy Angelo killed in mafia 2?
@Essence_of_Meh@lemmy.world avatar

It’s a retribution by the mob because of what he did in the first game. I’ll put it in spoilers just in case:

Mafia 1 spoilersThe whole premise of the first game is that Tommy talks to the police to get out of crime life. He ends up testifying against the Salieri family, receives lower sentence and enters witness protection program with his family.

Fizz, do gaming w Best client for mc?(is this the right community for this the minecraft lemmy.world one is semi dead but not fully but releated)
@Fizz@lemmy.nz avatar

I’m using prism for modded MC and its pretty good. It allows me to easily manage multiple modpacks and versions.

Mwa,
@Mwa@thelemmy.club avatar

I use cracked prism and it’s really good so might use that

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