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gmtom, do games w The Steam controller was ahead of its time

No. The touch pads were fucking stupid and it needed 2 actual joysticks.

Any move towards less physical controls and feedback is bad.

brucethemoose,

With respect, this doesn’t make any sense. If you want a joystick controller, just buy an Xbox controller that everything’s compatible with anyway?

The trackpads shine when one needs to emulate a mouse/kb in non-controller games; a nightmare with joysticks.

gmtom,

Yeah thats kind of the point. It doesnt have 2 joysticks so I just buy an Xbox one instead. So it cant compete with the gold standard of crontrollers.

And you can say it has pursose in non controller games but its still worse than a traditional keyboard and mouse in that repect as well as a keyboard with an integrated trackpack.

So theres maybe a small niche of playing non controller games in situations where you dont have a desk and you dont want to use an integrated keyboard, where it does a bit better than the competition. Any other situation you have better options. Which IMO if its worse in most use cases and only a bit better than the competetion in designed niche, then its not really a good product.

brucethemoose,

Not everyone’s a big kb/mouse fan. My sister refuses to use one on the HTPC.

Hence I think that was its non-insignificant niche; couch usage. Portable keyboards are really awkward and clunky on laps, and the steam controller is way better and more ergonomic than an integrated trackpad.

Personally I think it was a smart business decision, because of this:

It doesnt have 2 joysticks so I just buy an Xbox one instead.

No one’s going to buy a steam-branded Xbox controller, but making it different does. And I think what killed it is that it wasn’t plug-and-play enough, eg it didn’t work out of the box with many games.

MyNameIsAtticus, do games w The Steam controller was ahead of its time
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I would love to get ahold of one for my PC. I’m hesitant to buy a used one though. Maybe one day Valve will make more or even better, make a SC2. Until then my PS5 controller will continue to serve me well

NotASharkInAManSuit, (edited ) do games w So is Kingdom Hearts 3 _bad_ or just the normal cringe of Kingdom Hearts?

I’m currently doing a replay of the series and am in the middle of 3, and while 2 is definitely better in a lot of ways, I am still enjoying three, but it does have some issues. The difficulty is not to par, would be my biggest gripe, there really hasn’t been any level of challenge playing on proud mode, but the gameplay holds up in my opinion. The worlds are bigger and have a better layout than in 2, but the world stories are pretty lame for the most part and don’t really have anything to do with the plot, you’re just kind of there during the events of the movies for the most part, and a lot of times it’s just kind of “and Sora and the gang were there, too!”

If you haven’t played the side games to know the full story then things feel like a bit of a mess and they don’t really go over much from those games, which all have very important plot elements happening.

As a part of the whole story, I think it’s worth playing, but not really until near the end of the game. If you’re into the games for the combat mechanics then I’d say it’s worth it, I really like the gameplay. If you haven’t played the side games and are playing for the story then it’s going to be rough.

All in all, I enjoy it for a lot of reasons, though it has some issues, but that’s sort of the deal with all of the games. If you play Dream Drop Distance first I feel it adds a lot to KH3, but had I not played that first I’m not sure I would have enjoyed KH3 as much as I have, since it is a huge part of the story setup for what is happening in the third game, and if you go from KH2 directly to KH3 you’ll be missing a shit ton of what is going on with the story, why the power of waking is so relevant, and what happened with Sora and Riku’s mark of mastery exam.

So, not the best of the series, but I think it’s worth the time to play if you’re invested in the story or gameplay.

Edit: They also completely reworked the gummi ship stuff, in my opinion, for the better. You actually get to fly it around in space in an interactive world map deal that you can explore as it’s own thing, and you actually have to navigate to new worlds. It’s polarizing, and I can see why some wouldn’t like it, but I think it’s a huge improvement to that part of the games.

2FortGaming, do games w The Steam controller was ahead of its time

Well I’m glad someone likes it

tacosanonymous, do games w The Steam controller was ahead of its time

I honestly love the idea of it more than using it for most gaming. I’m going they make a new one that mirrors the layout of the Steam Deck a little more.

IdontplaytheTrombone, do games w So is Kingdom Hearts 3 _bad_ or just the normal cringe of Kingdom Hearts?

3 is unbelievably horrible.

HeyJoe, do games w The Steam controller was ahead of its time

I got mine way back when they were discounted to $5 bucks. I used it like once and wasn’t a fan. Plus, back then, I didn’t really play too many pc games. Funny enough, my friend texted me a few days ago and told me the controllers are becoming goldmines online now selling for $150-$200. It makes me want to find mine and sell it. I even have the box it came in still somewhere.

fushuan, (edited ) do games w The Steam controller was ahead of its time

Idk which model you got but mine did charge via usbc. It also broke so idk if I would prefer yours lol.

I also didn't mind not having a second stick, I got very used to using the trackpad to move the camera in games like dark souls, so much that I could turn it waaaay faster than with whatever stick and with way more precision. very important to mention, I did not put it in "controller mode" but in the "controller and mouse mode" where it took the trackpad input as mouse movement, which made it work flawlessly with swift movements. It's true that the controller mode was lackluster since swiping the trackpad repeated times to turn the camera felt bad. But eh, easily fixable option with an alternative superior to any other controller I've ever tried.

atomicpoet,

Yep, the key is to use mouse instead of joystick-mouse.

hopesdead, do games w The Steam controller was ahead of its time
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One analog stick? That just looks weird with that layout.

Tall_Chilchuck, do games w The Steam controller was ahead of its time

I never got fully used to the trackpads, but the Steam controller is still the only controller I’ve ever owned where the back paddles didnt break/become unresponsive after enough use. Big fan.

don, do games w The Steam controller was ahead of its time
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Still got mine and use it. I bought mine very early on, and ran into an issue I’ve long since forgotten. I let Valve know and they comped me their entire Valve library, and the issue got sorted later.

An incredibly cool controller, I love the hell out of it.

jazztickets, do games w The Steam controller was ahead of its time

It was a good 5+ hour learning curve, but I now swear by it for all Souls games (except DS remastered, since you can’t use joystick + mouse movement at the same time). In Elden Ring: Jump and dodge on the grips, holding LB engages gyro for aiming with the bow, and touch instead of click left trackpad for dpad input. Being able to swing the camera around instantly, or just being able to maneuver it while sprinting is so nice. Customizing the guide chords is great too: Guide+X = save OBS replay, Guide+Y = turn off controller, Guide+A = toggle MangoHud, etc.

Although, I’d probably trade the left trackpad for an actual dpad, though it is nice for typing if i ever need it. It’s a shame they removed “require clicks” for navigation in the new Big Picture mode. I also wish the LB/RB weren’t so clicky and loud. Maybe there’s a DIY mod for that.

Sadly I didn’t like the steam deck for Souls games. Maybe it’s because the trackpad is too far down and just feels more awkward to use. Steam controller just fits so nice.

EDIT: forgot to mention that I use Guide+right trackpad to simulate right analog stick, since in Elden Ring you need it for zooming the map or adjusting the camera angle during dialogue or character creation.

dualpad,

I personally love the left touchpad for movement. When the game lets you set a sprint hold over a sprint toggle I love to set an outer ring bind for it at the edge to go in and other of sprint without clicking. And I like setting up stuff like dash, crouch, slide on a touchpad click. Frees up buttons for me to be able to bind other stuff to.

Its_Always_420, do games w The Steam controller was ahead of its time
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I got more use out of the Steam Link mine came with than I did the controller.

kcweller, do games w So is Kingdom Hearts 3 _bad_ or just the normal cringe of Kingdom Hearts?

3’s my least favorite numbered entry in the series, but the post-game of re:mind is pretty damn good.

I didn’t like how empty the world’s felt. Even though there’s barely any npc’s in 1, it felt the most alive. 2 was just corridors, but my god the combat feels good. 3 is an attempt to make the world’s bigger, ending up empty, and the combat is meh for the most part.

newcool1230, do gaming w [Ended] [Steam Key Giveaway] 3x Stardew Valley to give away

Thank you very much for doing this! If I receive this, I will play it all summer long. This is one of the games I really wanted to play.

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newcool1230,

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