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thezeesystem, do gaming w Weekly “What are you playing” Thread || Week of October 27th

Factorio space age. Can cracktorio got laced with space

andrew_bidlaw, do games w Are any games using neural networks for better hard AI that doesn't cheat?
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ECHO, the 3rd person action\puzzle game was a fun concept to script in your machine dopplegangers to learn on you (and repeat after you one of the set actions you can do) and reset every cycle.

I don’t think it would work by itself without such limiting.

Peffse,

I always got the impression it wasn’t a learning AI but rather a very limited “Has the player pressed the run button? if YES: AI can use run next cycle”

www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zZaRH00Q54

andrew_bidlaw,
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Yes it is, it’s 100% scripted. And yes, in the environment where you can do like 10 different actions, they start to do their routine adding ones that you used in that cycle before they get reset. In a sense, they act no more natural than monsters from a tabletop game.

But these do make me think that if we talk gamedesign with a LLM as an actor, it should too have a very tight set of options around it to effectively learn. The ideal situation is something simplistic, like Google’s dino jumper where the target is getting as far as it can by recognising a barrier and jumping at the right time.

But when things get not that trivial, like when in CS 1.6 we have a choice to plant a bomb or kill all CTs, it needs a lot of learning to decide what of these two options is statistically right at any moment. And it needs to do this while having a choice of guns, a neverending branching tree of routes to take, tactics to use, and how to coexist with it’s teammates. And with growing complexity it’s hard to make sure that it’s guided right.

Imagine you have thousands of parameters from it playing one year straight to lose and to win. And you need to add weight to parameters that do affect it’s chance to win while it keeps learning. It’s more of a task than writing a believable bot, that is already dificult.

And the way ECHO fakes it… makes it less of a headache. Because if you limit possible options to the point close to Google’s dino, you can establish a firm grasp on teaching the LLM how to behave in a bunch of pre-defined situations.

And if you won’t, it’s probably easier to ‘fake it’ like ECHO or F.E.A.R. does giving a player an impression of AI when it’s just a complicated scri orchestrating the spectacle.

bitwolf, do gaming w This is spot on for so many games

Palworld lol

potentiallynotfelix, do gaming w This is spot on for so many games

Just Cause 4 is the embodiment of this lol

CheeryLBottom, do gaming w This is spot on for so many games

Pillars of Eternity Deadfire :D

yogthos, do gaming w Games that restore faith in the industry?
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Viewfinder if you enjoy Portal style games

jastyty, do gaming w "Wirelessly connect with me" doesn't work as well these days

I always rolled my N64 cables in X shape hahahs

Showroom7561, do gaming w Games that restore faith in the industry?

On Android (and probably other systems), Death Road to Canada is fun, funny, challenging, and comes with no BS.

BertramDitore, (edited ) do games w Marvel's Midnight Suns is criminally underrated

I loved this game! I got like 6 solid months of fun out of it. It took a really long time for the card combat loop to get old for me. I had never played an x-com style game before this (though I loved their meta callouts to x-com), so the mechanics were brand new to me, but it all just made intuitive sense. The card design and animations are top notch, and some of the fights can be super-challenging, but there’s always a way, and there’s nothing quite like the satisfaction of finally finishing a fight after 5 different tries.

Agree on the story and voice acting, it’s all excellent. There are a couple very recognizable voices in there too.

Edit: Magik, Doctor Strange, and Captain Marvel are pretty much an unstoppable combo…

BigBananaDealer,
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so far the only time ive ever had to lower my difficulty was during the dracula boss fight, fucking hell that was hard as shit. i gave up after 15 tries and lowered the difficulty and finally beat him on the first try lol

Boinkage,

All my homies hate Dracula

Rand, do gaming w Games that restore faith in the industry?
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I mainly like PvP games and I am really enjoying Valve’s Deadlock

deck5955, do zapytajszmer w Linux i Windows 7 na jednym kompie?

Musisz najpierw zainstalować windowsa, potem linuxa na osobnej/ych partycjach. Ta kolejność jest istotna, bo linux nadpisuje sektor rozruchowy (bootsector) i dzięki temu można wybierać, który system chcesz uruchomić Na youtube słowo klucz to “Dual boot” leciwy pierwszy z brzegu tutorial tutaj: www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdcH_mcWVMs

iAmTheTot, do games w Has anyone else noticed that Steam no longer requires self-updates that restart the client?

I don’t think I’ve seen that update window in years.

slug, do games w Is there a video-game .ics/calendar that I can subscribe to keep up with recent releases?

i’m so on board for a .ics renaissance like we’ve had for rss. let’s put these calendars to use.

scala, do gaming w Weekly “What are you playing” Thread || Week of October 20th

After playing Space Marine 2 getting bored of that in 8 hours after finishing the extremely short story and all the post story content. Moved onto throne and Liberty just for the game to be heavy pay 2 win and also full of bots. Back to the good ol EverQuest - Quarm server.

Poopfeast420, do gaming w Weekly “What are you playing” Thread || Week of October 20th
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More Diablo 4, after finally getting over my cold. Playing through the campaign was super boring (being sick and miserable didn’t help). All that time is also basically wasted, and you just want it to be over as fast as possible, to actually start progressing your character. Future seasons might be better, since you can skip the campaign, but a bunch of stuff only unlocks after you hit max level anyway, so who knows. The expansion increased the difficulty of the game, added some more difficulty options and did a stat squish, but I don’t think I’m a big fan. Until yesterday, it felt like I was just treading water, not making much progress. Then I managed to unlock Torment 3 difficulty, change my build a bit and get good enough gear, started blasting through enemies, and had more fun. So, while I’m not bored out of my skull anymore, I think I’ll just finish the season journey and battle pass, and then take another break from the game.

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