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silverchase, do games w The Steam controller was ahead of its time
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I love my Steam Controller. I got a second before they went out of production! The two big pads are so versatile.

windowsphoneguy,
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Same, second one never saw a battery yet in fear of leakage.

NuXCOM_90Percent, do games w The Steam controller was ahead of its time

Strong disagree. If anything, it was the opposite.

The Steam Controller was AMAZING for playing games that did not have gamepad support. And I still think it is the best way to play Stardew Valley. But it also came out at a time when PC ports to console were more or less expected and even RTSes had gamepad support out of the box.

At which point you have a controller that only makes sense for a very limited subset of games.

That said, a Steam Controller 2 that is basically the deck minus the display would be amazing.

atomicpoet,

Okay, but I didn’t want to buy a new console. Instead, I wanted to use my PC as a console replacement.

But also, there’s a surprising amount of games that never got a console release. For example, Blood and Septerra Core—never arrived on any console. I own those games, and the Steam controller let me play them on my TV very easily.

NuXCOM_90Percent,

“ahead of its time” to let people play a game from 1999 is kind of my point.

The Steam Controller was very much designed with 90s/VERY early 00s gaming in mind where you might have a closet full of controllers for every game you like. A wheel for racing, a HOTAS for flight sims, a different HOTAS for mech sims, a gamepad, a guitar controller, a spinning knob, etc.

But it came out at almost the exact same time that the entire industry standardized on xinput with different face button labels. AND when xinput was making it trivial to just use that xbox controller on your PC.

atomicpoet,

And yet, when I look at my library, only half of new games released within the past five years support X-input. They are still exclusively keyboard-and-mouse.

Granted, that’s way more than what was available 10 years ago, but it’s still a problem.

Or it would be if the Steam Deck didn’t make it trivially easy to adapt keyboard-and-mouse controls to a controller. Which happened because of the innovation first introduced with the Steam Controller.

It’s now at the point where keyboard-and-mouse is optional—just a preference if you want to use it.

NuXCOM_90Percent,

I mean… if you look at what I bought in the past five years you would think everyone was obsessed with spreadsheets and 100 hour CRPGs. That doesn’t change the fact that the vast majority of games are made with cross platform in mind and many historically “M+KB only” games have excellent gamepad support. Sometimes, annoyingly, only in the console build but…

Yes. I do think Steam Input is awesome (even if it was basically just a cleaner interface to xpadder/joy2key). That isn’t the Steam Controller. The Steam Controller is what Valve was using to promote The Steam Machines which was their failed attempt at a console.

Again, just to make this clear: I am not saying the Steam Controller was bad. I am not saying Valve is bad. I AM saying it was not “forward thinking” and was very much rooted in a PC gaming era that was ending as orders were being shipped out.

atomicpoet,

You’re not wrong that the market has changed.

I often tell people that the biggest innovations in PC gaming are not graphics but form factors and inputs.

Jestzer, do games w The Steam controller was ahead of its time

I got mine as soon as they were being sold and was disappointed. It felt incredibly awkward to use in comparison to both a K&M and a traditional controller. I ended up selling it about 5 years ago and don’t miss it.

Tall_Chilchuck, do games w The Steam controller was ahead of its time

I never got fully used to the trackpads, but the Steam controller is still the only controller I’ve ever owned where the back paddles didnt break/become unresponsive after enough use. Big fan.

ter_maxima, do games w The Steam controller was ahead of its time

We really need a new version

AutoPastry, do games w Day 356 of posting a Daily Screenshot from the games I've been playing

I really enjoy these posts and how much effort you put into it. AMA at 365 days?

hopesdead, do games w The Steam controller was ahead of its time
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One analog stick? That just looks weird with that layout.

Einhornyordle, do games w The Steam controller was ahead of its time

I used mine just a few hours ago while playing Brotato. I’m usually not a controller guy and try to stick to mouse and keyboard but in cases where controllers are just the better choice, I strongly prefer the Steam Controller over any other one.

Ulrich, do games w The Steam controller was ahead of its time
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I can say this confidently: the most killer features on the Deck originated with the Steam Controller.

I have to strongly disagree. The killer feature is Proton (if you consider that a feature) 😀

atomicpoet,

That’s more of a killer feature for Linux in general.

And I can’t undersell how big of a deal that is. When Windows 10 dies, I’m switching my desktop to Linux simply because Proton makes me want to use Linux.

Ulrich,
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Was it around before the Steam Deck?

ReluctantZen,
@ReluctantZen@feddit.nl avatar

Yes, otherwise the Steam Deck would probably not have as much game support as it did when it came out

Ulrich,
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Unless it was released with the Steam Deck…?

ReluctantZen,
@ReluctantZen@feddit.nl avatar

No, it took time to get Proton to where it is now. If it was released together with the Steam Deck, it just wouldn’t have had as much game support. Proton already existing also made the SD that much more trustworthy. Proton’s initial release was in 2018

cadekat,

Proton is an evolution of wine, an open source project. Wine has been around since… 1993 according to Wikipedia.

Kekzkrieger,

Why not.now, the earlier the better

infinitesunrise,
@infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net avatar

Don’t wait, you’ll thank yourself after you switch. In very frequent cases Windows games literally run faster in Linux under Proton. Get that state-sponsored spyware out of your home!

sugar_in_your_tea,

Yup, the touchpads are cool, but I would’ve bought a Steam Deck without them, but I wouldn’t if Proton didn’t exist. I was on Linux already when the Steam Deck came out, so I was already familiar with Proton.

KeefChief13, do games w The Steam controller was ahead of its time

Big fan of the steam deck layout, seems to resember the steam controller.

obywatelle, do zapytajszmer w jak mogę dowiedzieć się, czy jestem trans?
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Nikt ci tego nie powie. :) Serio, wiesz to najlepiej sam*. Są różne pytania które można sobie zadać, ale każdy jest inny i odczuwa to samo inaczej. Jakikolwiek szablon może akurat do ciebie nie pasować.

Jest jedna rzecz, która się nie zmienia: ludzie którzy nie są trans, nie poświęcają wiele czasu na zastanawianie się nad tym. Jeśli to tylko przelatująca myśl, to nie będzie cię męczyć na tyle żeby to roztrząsać. A to już poważny sygnał że coś może być na rzeczy. I to jest najlepsza wskazówka, a nie to, czy kiedyś tam w swoim życiu wpisywał*ś się w jakiś obraz męskości czy kobiecości.

Korhaka, do games w The Steam controller was ahead of its time

Use NiMH batteries in it, then you can recharge them. They also don’t leak as easily as alkaline batteries.

manicdave, do games w The Steam controller was ahead of its time

Then there’s the back paddles. Only two of them.

Speak for yourself. Mine has 14 lol

https://feddit.uk/pictrs/image/a07d30d8-760c-4333-8b0d-708acbefc0ab.webp

pika,

Lol omg no

manicdave,

When your villain origin story is getting banned from a truck simulator mod because you forgot the macro to turn the headlights on.

Buffalobuffalo,

Pretty sweet. Original back shell, and battery cover?

manicdave,

You can download an stl for the battery cover. I modified it to allow the backpack controller to attach to/detach from the main controller. The original is in a box somewhere safe and well.

https://feddit.uk/pictrs/image/51df9c04-e644-41cf-8842-19f55e53db16.webp

grue,

You can download an stl for the battery cover.

The hackability and first-party endorsement thereof was another big underappreciated feature of the Steam Controller.

atomicpoet,

I admire the cut of your jib.

A_Random_Idiot,

whole new buttons or just remap face button functions?

manicdave,

It’s an extra 12 button Bluetooth controller using an esp32 dev board. So your games need to allow you to use multiple controllers. You could also program it to send keyboard keys but I haven’t tried it.

tourist,
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I assume you’ve been mass reported in whatever game you made this for

manicdave, (edited )

I actually made it because I got banned because I couldn’t use my lights in euro truck simulator 2 multiplayer mod. I’m not sure I’d want to use it in any competitive games as it’d likely break off if I got mad.

tourist,
@tourist@lemmy.world avatar

wtf

If traffic rules were that strictly punished in real life there’d be like max 7 cars on road globally

fushuan, (edited ) do games w The Steam controller was ahead of its time
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Idk which model you got but mine did charge via usbc. It also broke so idk if I would prefer yours lol.

I also didn't mind not having a second stick, I got very used to using the trackpad to move the camera in games like dark souls, so much that I could turn it waaaay faster than with whatever stick and with way more precision. very important to mention, I did not put it in "controller mode" but in the "controller and mouse mode" where it took the trackpad input as mouse movement, which made it work flawlessly with swift movements. It's true that the controller mode was lackluster since swiping the trackpad repeated times to turn the camera felt bad. But eh, easily fixable option with an alternative superior to any other controller I've ever tried.

atomicpoet,

Yep, the key is to use mouse instead of joystick-mouse.

HeyJoe, do games w The Steam controller was ahead of its time

I got mine way back when they were discounted to $5 bucks. I used it like once and wasn’t a fan. Plus, back then, I didn’t really play too many pc games. Funny enough, my friend texted me a few days ago and told me the controllers are becoming goldmines online now selling for $150-$200. It makes me want to find mine and sell it. I even have the box it came in still somewhere.

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