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drmoodmood, do gaming w Which unplayed game in your library are you most looking forward to playing eventually?
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Pacific Drive for me! Played the demo and it seemed a pretty chill scavenging and driving game. I’ll get to it once I’m done with The Outer Worlds and its DLC.

tanisnikana, do gaming w Are souls games really as hard as everyone says?

I would say that a lot of these unforgiving action RPGs are complete-able and enjoyable by most everyone, but I should give a caution that if you’re disabled in the hands, things will be substantially less forgiving.

I’ve got hemiplegic cerebral palsy from a pair of strokes, and as a result, the right side of my body, specifically my fine motor control of the right side of my body, is utter garbage. I can’t get through Bloodborne or most Souls games. The exception was Elden Ring, because it made ranged combat viable in such a way that any need for twitchy gameplay was substantially reduced.

Bloodborne is among the most difficult in the genre, and if you’re looking to broach this sort of game, I’d recommend Elden Ring first. It’s got the same learning aspects, but it allows for more creativity and thought in the moment.

daggermoon,

I’m seeing a lot of comments recommending Elden Ring. I guess I’ll have to try it now. I’m sorry to hear about the cerebral palsy. I’m glad it doesn’t stop you from gaming.

What did you think about Elden Ring? I’ve heard it’s a masterpiece. I don’t usually play these types of games anyway so I’m sort of in the dark. Thank you!

tanisnikana,

First, Elden Ring has Miriel, Pastor of Vows, and he is the bestest boy.

Also with the exception of one single boss fight, I was able to overcome everything in Elden Ring with persistence and learning, and sometimes I would get frustrated in a locale, and just leave and go do other things in the land. Other linear souls games don’t really let you stray from the beaten path until you’ve added your beats to it as well.

Elden Ring is just a really solid intro to the format.

Let us learn together.

rimjob_rainer, do games w My mental health has improved after deleting games that have microtransactions in them

Welcome to capitalism. Big gaming companies do not care about games anymore, they care about how to maximise profits. Their games are manipulative and developed together with psychologists solely to get your hard earned money at any opportunity. They got so good at it, that they are able to release pieces of software which are looking like games but actually are milking machines and no games at all.

You just have to take a step back and you will be able to easily differentiate between products of corporate greed and games.

Games once were supposed to be entertaining and even art. And there are still some, mostly indies.

WhatYouNeed,

We’ll take cash, we’ll take checks,

We’ll take credit cards, we’ll take jewelry,

We’ll take your momma’s dentures if they got gold in them!

SorteKanin, do games w My mental health has improved after deleting games that have microtransactions in them
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May I recommend taking it a step further and going for games that have no cycle in them at all? That is, finite games that you can play and actually finish, for good. That’s what I’ve been looking for a lot lately.

Some recommendations:

  • The Talos Principle (puzzles with a story)
  • Outer Wilds (best to go in blind, read absolutely nothing about it, not even the steam description)
  • CrossCode (fast paced fun combat and a cool story and characters. Somewhat grindy but still finite)
  • Beacon Pines (short and sweet visual novel)
  • Chants of Sennaar (language translation game, surprisingly fun and satisfying)
meco03211,

What’s the SorteKanin description of Outer Wilds?

StringPotatoTheory,

I’m not them but…

Outer Wilds is a gem of a 3D first-person indie game. Other games might have you find required items so you can progress (like Pokemon or Zelda games), but in this game it’s all about the knowledge you learn while playing (like Tunic). You explore, learn, and puzzle solve. By looking up anything about the game, or by looking up a solution to a puzzle, you essentially lock yourself out of experiencing that piece of content. It’s all about the journey.

It’s a game you can only really play once, but it is so worth it. It’s my favorite video game and I wish I could forget everything about it so I can play it again for the first time.

SorteKanin,
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Well… Without spoiling anything I would say, you are a member of an alien species on another planet. You are also an aspiring astronaut about to take your first journey into space. Let’s just say your journey is quite remarkable.

carbonari_sandwich,

Chants of Sennaar is absolutely one of my favorite games. It’s one of the few games I’ve played where the mechanics of the game and the themes of the game were in perfect harmony.

ICastFist,
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Not every game needs a story or campaign you can finish to be enjoyable. Playing random skirmishes in Age of Empires 2 or Supreme Commander can be loads of fun. Civilization 5 has scenarios that I suspect most players don’t even know exist (also, you can play Unciv for free). You can pick up and put down much like you’d do to boardgames.

Then there’s “infinite” games like Cities Skyline, RimWorld, Dwarf Fortress, Satisfactory. It’s ok to want once and done games, but games that you want to replay when they lack any mtx or dark patterns speaks something about your enjoyment

SorteKanin,
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Definitely, not disagreeing with that. I’ve played plenty of those games too. I just find that “enjoyment per hour” is actually better with shorter, finite games. But I also find myself spending a lot of time playing Civ or Stellaris haha

HubertManne, do gaming w Are souls games really as hard as everyone says?

I honestly suck. Im a nerd Xer who played games with my real gamer friend but I played but was only like ok. I played elden ring and expected to drop it but found it fun. I think its very much perspective. I treat it as more an exploration game and story where death is just a mechanic. Your basically supposed to die over and over. That made it fine for me. Its like I hate pvp but I played a pvp mmo awhile back called shadowbane and initially I hated it but then I just sorta switched my perspective to view the griefers as just really hard monsters or content and built around it and found it fun enough.

JoYo, do games w My mental health has improved after deleting games that have microtransactions in them
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i just started playing on Ascension wow private server.

their take on classless is so nice.

2ugly2live, do gaming w Are souls games really as hard as everyone says?
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They can be hard. I’ve tried Bloodborne, Elden Ring, and Sekiro. I got the furthest in Sekiro and kind of got the draw because, man, the high when you finished a boss. But the struggle, from my understanding, is part of the gameplay itself, part of the experience. It was too unforgiving for me. While I was happy finishing a boss, I didn’t go into the next one excited for the challenge, I was dreading the upcoming hours of banging my head against the wall, so I just decided it wasn’t for me. That part of the game play just wasn’t appealing to me, doesn’t mean it’s bad of course.

I say give it a try! They always have Bloodborne on sale, nothing wrong with trying and deciding it’s not for you, and it’ll be awesome of it is!

dubyakay, do games w My mental health has improved after deleting games that have microtransactions in them

When I did this quitting thing from MMOs and FOMO inducing gachas that you describe, I suddenly

  • got a non-dead-end job
  • got a girlfriend
  • got a promotion
  • travelled around Europe
  • girlfriend died
  • travelled around Europe some more
  • got another girlfriend
  • ended up in Canada
  • got married
  • got kids
  • stuck in dead-end job again without promotion for the past five years

I still think it was worth it to quit though. My mind just gets stimuli from the seemingly simplest things, like looking at a beautiful tree on the roadside, brutalist architecture, interesting conversations that I focus on instead of my mind wandering onto the next mount or raid boss I will have to tackle.

And when it comes to gaming, if I want to satisfy my itch for twitch and a bit of adrenaline, roguelites scratch it the best, without the long term commitment to playing them for days or even hours.

But what works best to keep sanity is exercise, and with riding a road bike at least twice a day I can combine elevated heart rate with zoning out and Zen for stress relief really well. It’s simply meditative.

I think of the twelve years I’ve spent playing MMOs fondly, lots of memories were made. But I would never do it again. And it has nothing to do with self-control, and willpower to not start it again, although quitting cold turkey definitely required both. But it had everything to do with the realization that it’s a trap that’s a poor substitute for real life, even if real life has dealt you shitty cards.

I can spot the hazy, reality-disconnected look of addicts from a mile away. The self-deluding statements when the topic somehow gets brought up. And I can do nothing but feel a bit sad for them, and hope that somewhere, someone manages to gently nudge them on a path that helps them escape from this trap.

Valmond,

Wtf, is this some (copy) pasta?

If it isn’t it should be our Lemmy pasta with sauce IMO!

sharkfucker420, do gaming w Are souls games really as hard as everyone says?
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Tbh, no. I suck at like 90% of games, just genuinely not good at them. I excel in soulslikes, you really won’t know how difficult it is for you until you try it. I think the games are built in a way where, should you use all the games mechanics, they are relatively easy but if you don’t use all the mechanics they can get hard

WhyFlip, (edited ) do games w My mental health has improved after deleting games that have microtransactions in them

No shit. Micro transactions have completely turned me off from gaming, starting with TF2.

eugenevdebs,

“Valve is the savior of gaming” as they invented micro transactions and neglect as many IPs as EA and Ubisoft do, but its okay since they have so many fun sales to tie to your account.

Valve is cool some of the time, TF2 is my most played game, but the moment GabeN keels over, is the moment a lot of people are going to notice that “owning” all your games on a digital storefront was a bad idea, like when Playstation and Microsoft remove games people bought with their hard earned money.

saigot, do gaming w Which unplayed game in your library are you most looking forward to playing eventually?

Return of the obra dinn

I feel like it’s a game to be played in one long go, so I’m waiting for the right time.

metaStatic, do gaming w GG no re

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ColeSloth, do games w My mental health has improved after deleting games that have microtransactions in them

I dropped them all like 8 years ago. Not even the microtransaction parts for me since I never played any pay to win games and not big on caring about skins or hats. It was that any game time I had, felt like I had to play league of Legends, or I’d fall behind.

So I dropped it and have happily gone back to pretty much exclusively single player games. It’s nice.

DeadUncle,

Yeah, same for me. I like Apex. It is an Insanely fun game. But I’m the kind of guy who plays something for a bit and then something else before I may or may not come back. Apex being live service makes it that I don’t want to come back because many of the things I know about the game are no longer true. So I’m not installing it again

ColeSloth,

Yep. You take a month off from league of legends and all of a sudden 50 things have changed/rebalanced and there’s 2 new heroes to figure out.

So nice going back to gaming on my own terms. I’m replaying ffvii right now with 7th heaven mods. Been over 25 years since I played it last, and it’s still awesome, mostly.

Fidel_Cashflow, do gaming w Are souls games really as hard as everyone says?
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I feel like, if you’re going to play a souls game for the first time you should play Elden Ring, because it’s the kind of game that’s only as hard as you want it to be. Elden Ring is in this interesting spot of being open world, meaning that if a particular boss or area is too challenging, you can fuck off and do something else for a bit, then come back when you’re better leveled/better geared/more practiced etc. I feel like you don’t really get this with other souls games, which are more linear in their structure.

that said, I don’t think any souls game is really an insurmountable challenge, especially Bloodborne. sure, you might suck when you first start it, but once you get the hang of the combat, dodging, etc you should be fine.

Kayday, do gaming w Are souls games really as hard as everyone says?

They have a skill floor that you need to overcome, usually early on. Once you do that, the formula for the rest of the game follows suit.
Bloodborne is my favorite souls game. If you find it too challenging, I’d recommend watching some let’s plays which can have great advise. I don’t typically watch his channel, but Jacksepticeye has a really informative playthrough. He’s beaten the game so many times that he mostly just shows you the cheesy speed run methods for boss fights, however.

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