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GutsBerserk, do games w The Game Awards 2023: List of Winners

So glad BG3 won deserving goty 2023.

Oh and “Don’t touch me!” Iykyk 😈

knokelmaat, do gaming w The Game Awards 2023 Discussion Thread

Last Sentinel had a really cool visual style (the half faced android mother thing got my attention).

Kojima’s scary shenanigans looked interesting too :)

deweydecibel, do games w The Game Awards 2023: List of Winners

The true winners are of course all the marketing departments out there that are just ecstatic about the fact this stupid award shit is normalized now.

How fun to know you can brute force an award show into being “legitimate” by spending a lot of money and being cozy with studios.

NOT_RICK,
@NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

You just described every award show ever.

I’m just glad there’s a big event that can act as a surrogate to what E3 once was.

Archer,

I suppose that was the Oscars at one point as well, but yeah this organization just appeared out of nowhere a few years ago

Restaldt, do games w The Game Awards 2023: List of Winners

Why the fuck was Lies of p in the rpg category and not the action categeory with Ac6?

AndrasKrigare, do gaming w The Game Awards 2023 Discussion Thread

Extremely excited for Rise of the Golden Idol. Loved the first one, and one of the few games my SO enjoyed playing

Rolive, do games w The Game Awards 2023: List of Winners

Fuck I lost.

Coelacanth, do games w The Game Awards 2023: List of Winners
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BG3 winning the GotY was something we all could see coming I think and even though it’s not my personal pick I’m hard pressed to argue. It’s a great game, it opened up many in the mainstream to a new genre and Larian is a great company with consumer-friendly policies. It’s hard to be mad.

I’m very glad Alan Wake 2 got a couple of awards, though. Hopefully this recognition means Remedy keeps pushing the boundaries and keeps going with their crazy mixed media and weirdness. We need someone doing innovation in the AAA space.

I am a little pissed they lost out on best music to FFXVI though.

sigmaklimgrindset,

FFXVI’s soundtrack is pretty great tho, especially the tracks for the Eikon fights. NGL I would have honestly gone insane playing that game if not for the soundtrack and (less so) the combat. The story makes no fucking sense.

I’m more salty that people are saying AW2 didn’t deserve Best Game Direction, because I think it absolutely did. Alan Wake’s plot and the vision they went for would have been absolute nonsense in the hands of any other studio.

Coelacanth,
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I just love what Remedy did for the music, and I’m not just talking about Poets of the Fall. Having a bunch of established artists write original music based on a bunch of story related poems written by Sam Lake was such a cool idea and makes the end-of-chapter songs land so well. But the competition was tough, for sure.

I haven’t heard those comments about Game Direction but I can’t understand that at all. The direction is absolutely first class, from the tension-release work to the cinematic shots and framings to the double-exposure overlaps and the reality rewriting and dream logic of the Dark Place. It was a masterpiece in my opinion.

MJBrune, do gaming w The Game Awards 2023 Discussion Thread

I decided I was done watching the game awards since it doesn’t seem to really align with what I want an awards show to be. I am curious if Dave the diver won though. With the backlash I would be a bit surprised if it did. The game awards always seems a bit reactionary. But then again that’s mostly to keep advertising happy, not the game developers.

ampersandrew,
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Sea of Stars took that one. I'm pretty sure the winners are voted on by the same panel that submitted the nominees, but I could be wrong. I guess they could have also changed their minds after the nominees were announced and the backlash happened.

chloyster,

Yeah. Basically the people who pick the nominees vote, and the public is also allowed to vote and their results count as 1 vote. Its mainly game news outlets that do the nominees and voting

9cpluss, do games w The Game Awards 2023: List of Winners

Cyberpunk winning best ongoing game is such a joke. Yes, I enjoyed the DLC but if any game with DLC and updates can be part of that category then that category has no meaning at all.

Stern,
@Stern@lemmy.world avatar

Could make a category of, “Why? I ask again, why?” and include Dave the Diver being nominated as an indie game along with it.

9cpluss, (edited )

Friends Per Second podcast had an interesting discussion around it. The term Indie isn’t well defined. Maybe never was. Most people probably see DtD as indie even though it had a publisher. A new category could be “independent” which actually has games that were published independently.

Renacles,

Indie literally means independent.

9cpluss,

Yes, indie is short for independent but the meaning of “indie” game isn’t as clear cut anymore (was it ever?). As you can see with Dave the Diver.

Renacles,

I can see that but I’d argue most people agree that being funded by Nexon is neither independent nor indie.

Zero,

It has nothing to do with DLC. I think it deserved the award. Instead of just letting the game die that it shouldn’t have released in the first place. They fixed it.

9cpluss,

I think we might have different expectations here. I think if a company sells a broken game, they should fix it without praise. The consumers paid for it. Specially should they not get an award for that. There should be a category for “most stable release” instead.

OscarRobin,

Exactly. I can’t believe how much praise people are giving Cyberpunk for not being broken anymore. Like bro that ain’t an achievement.

Ketloch,

Yeah, what actually happened here is they put out a broken, unfinished game 3 years ago, have spent the last 3 years on damage control and fixing it (which means it never changed overall price on the store like a 3 year old game should) and now they want you to buy an Xpac and the ultimate edition so they can sell it again, still for full price. It’s not worth an award, it’s scummy.

loki_d20,

I think the reason it gets praised is because it’s very rare that poor games get as much time and investment into fixing in this day and age. Most companies will just move on to the next game or even use AI to write their apology letters and then abandon the game entirely.

EntirelyUnlovable,
@EntirelyUnlovable@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah I feel that, Rage 2 still has a game breaking bug that will lock you out of your perma-death run on the final mission with just never got fixed.

Cexcells,

It’s not a live service game though.

NOT_RICK,
@NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

Awarded to a game for outstanding development of ongoing content that evolves the player experience over time.

Its best ongoing game, not best live service game. I think things like Stardew Valley or No Man’s Sky fit into this just like Cyberpunk did because devs should be praised for when they go above and beyond. I’d argue CDPR owed that to their fans but still, they mostly pulled it off.

sigmaklimgrindset,

Didn’t they announce that they weren’t going to do anymore updates besides bug changes like…last week? Am I hallucinating that?

NOT_RICK,
@NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

Cyberpunk? Think that’s right but I’d argue that would put them out of the running of this category in 2024 rather than this year’s.

sigmaklimgrindset,

Yes, Cyberpunk, sorry I didn’t clarify. And I agree with the 2024 take too.

As someone who is industry adjacent and has worked with people who work on games that are actively updated and improved for years…idk the Cyberpunk win doesn’t sit right with me. I have all the sympathy for the devs at CDPR and what they went through during the initial launch of the game, but this win just shows upper management at dev companies that they can get rewarded for releasing unfinished projects and finishing them later.

It’s also funny that they won against FFXIV, an actual good example of a game that was nuked to the ground and rebuilt with continuous support because of it’s initial failure.

NOT_RICK,
@NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

That’s a reasonable take. I think the win speaks to how much of a marketing even this show is.

sigmaklimgrindset,

Lol, thanks! r/gaming did not like my take 😂

mcmoor,

Wait, FFXIV do deserve it much more how tf Cyberpunk wins. Still, isn’t their best updates one or two years ago? Did they win last year?

LucidNightmare,

Shit, if that’s the case, I would rather Stardew or No Man’s get it because THOSE games actually added and improved the whole game with each update!

And this is coming from someone who was able to play Cyberpunk at launch with minimal bugs and actually enjoyed it and still do!

GoodEye8,

There’s a huge indie scene with loads of ongoing games that would be far more deserving of the award than Cyberpunk. Cyberpunk literally stopped major developments with 2.0, the rest you’re going to get are easy to include content and QoL. Compare that to Dwarf Fortress that has 20+ years of development and is only 50% done with the final vision. You could probably also stick Terraria there because despite the devs saying multiple times that they’re done they’re still updating the game. I’m sure there’s more but those two were just at the top of my head.

The only merit CP77 has to be on that list is fixing a broken game. Do you think CP77 would’ve won the award if it had release in the 2.0 state and gotten 3 years of additional development? Would it even make it into the nominees list? I don’t think so.

Coelacanth,
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I’m convinced they had Cyberpunk win it because they don’t have a “Best DLC/Expansion” category (yet) and felt like Cyberpunk deserved to win something for the way 2.0 and Phantom Liberty revitalised it.

9cpluss,

That’s fair. Might actually be a good category.

andy_wijaya_med,
@andy_wijaya_med@lemmy.world avatar

True. Lol. Offline single player RPG isnt an ongoing game.

Phegan,

Also, fixing your fucked it game isn’t ongoing either. CP2077 in this category is a disgrace. They shipped a buggy game, released DLC and actually finished the game and then won an award for it. Bullshit.

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hal_5700X, do games w The Game Awards 2023: List of Winners
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Armored Core VI won Best Action Game, and Ironmouse won. So all is good in the world.

Baldur’s Gate 3 won Game of the Year and Player’s Voice. We all saw that one coming.

AceQuorthon, do games w The Game Awards 2023: List of Winners

My boy Dave the Diver didn’t win :(

delitomatoes,

Playing it now, great game, but not indie apparently

Kaldo,
@Kaldo@kbin.social avatar

Thankfully! Its not even indie, it's a good game but it shouldn't have been nominated for that category in the first place.

key,
@key@lemmy.keychat.org avatar

A billion dollar company doesn’t count as indie anymore? What is the world coming to, next you’ll say corporations aren’t people too.

vivadanang,

It’s really not an indie game, so I was glad to see someone else take the trophy.

stopthatgirl7, do games w The Game Awards 2023: List of Winners
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Absolutely no arguments with any of these. This really was a great year for gaming.

Hisnitch, do gaming w The Game Awards 2023 Discussion Thread

Spider man won no awards and Balders Gate took the win. Pleasently surprised on both accounts.

ConstableJelly,

Did you…hate Spider-Man 2 for some reason? (Haven’t played it myself yet)

Hisnitch,

What? No! I’m just surprised that Spider-man 2 didn’t win anything at all. Even Alan Wake 2 won stuff and the game had only been out for less then a month before the nominees were announced.

ConstableJelly,

Haha ok, just curious. You said pleasantly surprised on both counts, which I took to mean you were happy it didn’t win any awards.

I’m super excited about playing Spider-Man 2 (as well as Alan Wake 2), but I’m also a patient gamer so just keeping an eye out for even a little bit of a sale.

averyminya,

I was also surprised but I think it coming out really recently and being a single console exclusive massively hurt its chances.

highsight, do games w The Game Awards 2023: List of Winners

Really happy that Alan Wake 2 got the awards it did. Especially in the Narrative and Game Direction fields.

That said, it’s tragic that Lies of P was nominated for best RPG instead of action game. I really believe it earned best action game this year.

JakenVeina,

No way it beats AC6 for me, but I wish it could have gotten something, it’s a really remarkable first-entry into the field.

They had a “best first game by a new studio” or something category last year, didn’t they? Isn’t that what Stray won?

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