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Dave, do games w Developer of WalkScape (the fitness MMORPG where you progress by walking IRL) here again. We're accepting new players and have a Lemmy community!
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I’m using GrapheneOS and struggling to get the game to count steps when it’s not actively open. Anyone else using GrapheneOS and have any tips?

schamppu,

I haven’t used GrapheneOS myself, but I’ve heard from others that running it in sandbox works. The game requires Google Play Services in order to count the steps in background, so sandbox with Google Play Services should fix that. The API the game specifically uses is the Recording API.

Dave,
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From my understanding, any app installed directly from Google Play should be in the sandbox and have access to Google Play Services. I haven’t quite worked out where the steps are missing, but it seems when the game is open it’s fine, and when the game hasn’t been killed by the OS it’s also fine. If I go back to the game and it has to launch again from scratch, it doesn’t seem to count steps that happened while the game wasn’t running (foreground or background).

I also see this post where others are seeing the same thing, and are not using GrapheneOS. Maybe my use of GrapheneOS is a red herring and there’s actually something else happening.

It was always odd to me that apps need to be constantly active to get the steps. I don’t get why the phone doesn’t just count in the background then allow you to request “how many steps today” or “how many steps since X date/time” via the API.

schamppu,

The game doesn’t need to be active on regular Android and counts steps when killed. I’m pretty sure the reason why it’s like that on GrapheneOS is that when the game is killed, the sandbox is killed and the Google Play Services shut down. If Google Play Services aren’t on there, the Recording API will not count steps in the background.

Probably easiest solution is to let WalkScape to run in the background, when it’s freezed the battery consumption should be basically nothing.

Dave,
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If Google Play Services aren’t on there, the Recording API will not count steps in the background.

That makes a lot of sense.

Probably easiest solution is to let WalkScape to run in the background, when it’s freezed the battery consumption should be basically nothing.

It’s allowed to run in the background, but I have now disabled battery optimisation and will see if that helps.

schamppu,

Yeah - battery optimization has tendency to kill apps, even if they’re not consuming resources. If you’re experiencing battery drain from doing this (or if it works fine), I’d appreciate if you send me your findings to our contact email address ❤️

Dave,
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It doesn’t seem to be helping. If I ever work out a more reliable way to get steps counted I’ll let you know. I know some pedometer apps don’t need Google Play Services and use a persistant notification to keep it active, but it seems like quite a significant change from what you currently have which wouldn’t be worth spending time on to appease such a small group of users.

schamppu,

Before Google released the Recording API, that’s what we used. But it was a huge time sink - with the amount of Android devices and operating systems, there were a ton of device specific issues which were impossible for me to reproduce without buying the models that had these, and we don’t have budget for such.

Pixel devices tended to have battery consumption issues with it, and Chinede devices with battery optimization were killing it very often etc.

If you find some way, I would love to hear about it. In the future we’ll be adding in smart watch support, which could help you to count the steps if you have one.

Edit: also one thing to try out if possible is to remove battery optimization from Google Play Services. Your device might be killing that, which stops counting the steps.

Dave,
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Yeah I can imagine trying to do it manually could get pretty tricky. I’ll look forward to the smart watch support (though I don’t own one, I might get one if others report it working well with GrapheneOS).

Edit: also one thing to try out if possible is to remove battery optimization from Google Play Services. Your device might be killing that, which stops counting the steps.

It seems it’s already set to not be optimized. It doesn’t seem to have access to the physical activity permission, but granting that permission didn’t seem to help. It still doesn’t count steps with the screen off.

No matter, thanks for all the ideas, I’ll just keep watching and see if others find a solution. I’ve subscribed to the Walkscape community so hopefully you’ll be posting updates there 🙂

dj1936, do news w TURCJA: Tysiące ludzi maszerują w kierunku granicy z Kobane w ramach solidarności z ruchem oporu Rożawy
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Brawo

kataak, do zapytajszmer w Licytacje komornicze - moralne czy niemoralne?
  1. Numer KW, można poszukać danych właścicieli licytowanej nieruchomości i poszukać coś w necie.
  2. Podjechać pod adres, popytać sąsiadów.

3.Jest spora szansa, że przed licytacją i przybiciem w mieszkaniu dalej mieszka właściciel, którego mieszkanie jest licytowane więc generalnie warto uważać z tematem bo będzie się samemu w nieprzyjemnej sytuacji (no chyba, że nie przeszkadza komuś wykopywanie ludzi z mieszkania).

dj1936,
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Dzięki za trop z 1, o tym nie pomyślałem.

JoeKrogan, do games w What procedures do you take to save and archive your games?
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Roms and sailing the high seas

Endymion_Mallorn, do games w Tango Gameworks studio has been reborn, joining Krafton Inc
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Krafton? Great. Another studio about to be thrown into the PUBG & New State mines.

tb_,
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Krafton did say they wanted a Hi-Fi Rush 2, as far as I know.

Say about them what you will, but good on them for stepping in and preventing Microsoft from shutting the studio down.

pory,
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Krafton seems to be attempting to diversify with this purchase and also the purchase of Unknown Worlds. We’ll see how many enshittification mandates they force on their studios when Subnautica 2 hits early access this year (it’s already confirmed to have online multiplayer so eyebrows are raised)

SGforce, do gaming w What games are you nostalgic towards but wouldn't go back and play?

Space Empires V

It’s very old, unfinished and jank as fuck. The ai was never very good and could be steamrolled easily with the right tech tree. But those first few turns while exploring and setting up colonies without knowing exactly which tech your nearest rivals would have or if they were planning an invasion was always very fun. Then it would turn into a tedious logistics game of trying to move your fleets or decommission ships that took you the majority of the game to build.

Also, Space Rangers 2.

It’s like an amalgum arcady space shooter but somehow turnbased and space RPG text adventure. It was always very buggy with a UI that is ugly as hell.

icecreamtaco, (edited ) do games w What procedures do you take to save and archive your games?
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Nothing, maintaining a library like that would be too much work. 95% of the time I don’t want to play a game more than once and if my chosen store closes I can ethically pirate it. Or maybe the game will be buyable as a $5 retro game 20 years from now.

I have 100+ digital only games on Switch too. That’s going to shut down at some point but in the future you’ll be able to download NS1.zip in ten minutes and it’ll have the entire library. So why worry about it now? Once the switch console batteries all start degrading PC emulation will be the default anyway.

Kolanaki, do games w What procedures do you take to save and archive your games?
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With GOG, I just put the installers onto a thumbdrive.

With Steam, I was burning discs using its offline backup tool, but I haven’t had a disc drive in my PC for years now. IDK if those can be backed up into a thumbdrive these days… It only allowed CD/DVD images to be created the last time I ever used it.

Tons of my games were owned physically before Steam existed though. Those I just keep in their boxes in my closet/storage bins.

mox,

I just put the installers onto a thumbdrive.

I hope you’re powering up that thumb drive every few weeks. Flash memory will lose charge if left unpowered for too long, corrupting your data.

Kolanaki,
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I usually just leave it in the computer until I need to take it somewhere.

Pyr_Pressure, do gaming w What games are you nostalgic towards but wouldn't go back and play?
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World of Warcraft

Love the world and history and characters. Gameplay is now pretty shit.

s3rvant,
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Ditto

Had a great time but no longer want to spend that much time

B0NK3RS, do games w What procedures do you take to save and archive your games?
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I don’t really bother but I do have some related stuff like unofficial patches and fan remakes/mods of my favourite games.

Flamekebab, do games w What procedures do you take to save and archive your games?
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I don't, because if that happens either others will have done a more thorough job (because it's something they care about - I have my own obsessive areas that I'm the one doing that stuff for), or if they haven't then I have much bigger problems to deal with (e.g. war in Europe).

Rai, do gaming w What games are you nostalgic towards but wouldn't go back and play?

Ragnarok Online. My favorite game ever and it’s all MTX and will never be like the old days. I wish it was. They made RO classic and shut it down. There’s private servers, but they’re not very populated.

besbin,

Hit me right in the nostalgia with this one. Used to played the heck out of it on SEA and my local country server. The game is super grindy for my taste now but I still feel nostalgic about the community and people there.

anamethatisnt, do games w What procedures do you take to save and archive your games?

I just keep the installers on my NAS, together with whatever dlc installers, patches and mods I deem necessary. With the current prices of 12-18tb hdd drives it doesn’t cost much to keep em there.

MudMan, (edited ) do games w Longtime buddy of mine just got a gaming PC. What games would make up a good "welcome to PC" care package?

Man, for a console gamer coming over this thread has a bunch of pretty terrible recommendations. I can't imagine a better way to send somebody back to console gaming than immediately dumping a bunch of fiddly mods and janky old stuff on them so they can play their OS for a while before having any fun.

I mean, if they're into competitive, hardcore console stuff they probably will want to decide if they want to go down the rabbit hole of competitive PC gaming. Checking out a couple MOBAs or fast mouse and keyboard shooters is probably a good way to start (for Steam ease of use I suppose DOTA2 and CS2 are the obvious choices). That's the fighting game equivalent stuff they're unlikely to have played already. I'd say if they aren't feeling it, it's fine to step away, though.

Depending on how beefy their gaming PC is, it may be fun to go for crazy console-crushing visuals. Path traced games like Indiana Jones or Cyberpunk may be fun to check out even if they've played the console versions, if they have a current-gen expensive GPU in there.

There are a couple of genres that are also cross-over but play best on PC, like survival sims and the like. I'm a PC controller player, but I'll switch to mouse and keyboard for, say, Satisfactory, although that's less action-packed and timing-based.

And of course there's upcoming stuff. VF 5 REVO is coming out in January, and that seems like a good chance to jump into a new thing on a gaming PC instead.

Adalast,

I agree. People keep suggesting Factorio, which leads me to believe that they have not actually read the post since his friend is into souls-likes and heavy combat games. Factorio is the antithesis of that! I don’t personally play those games (Factorio is one of my most played games), so I can’t make suggestions aside from Monster Hunter.

MudMan,

Yeah, that's why Satisfactory is probably a better choice (I mean, it's mostly "what if Factorio didn't look like a 1999 Flash game").

Honestly in 2025 (hey, happy new year!) things are platform-agnostic enough that the biggest thing to do when you switch to PC gaming is go check how all the games you know play when you run them at 200 fps or whatever. But even if you're an action game guy I do think it's work taking a few minutes to decide if you're going to be a sweaty mouse and keyboard guy and it's time to start browsing online stores for mice with ten grams shaved off the mouse wheel or whatever.

_cryptagion,

They didn’t specifically say it needed to be a souls-like. In fact, if you had read the whole thing, they’re considering including a 2d platformer.

They want new experiences for their friend. They probably don’t want a game that their friend has already played on console.

offspec, do gaming w What games are you nostalgic towards but wouldn't go back and play?

I don’t think I could ever play Jet Force Gemini, but I recall it fondly.

TommySoda,

Fantastic game but lemme tell ya, the controls for that game did not age well. I’ve tried to go back and play it, even on an emulator where I can customize the controls, and it is baffling how unintuitive the controls are on modern controllers. It worked when the N64 controller was considered good. But with how controllers have evolved it’s basically unplayable no matter how it’s configured.

It will literally never happen, but a remaster would be sick.

metaStatic,
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It worked when the N64 controller was considered good.

So it never worked? ayyylmao.

SineSwiper,
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Lies! The N64 controller was never considered good. That half-stick was one of the worst design choices I’ve ever seen for a controller. Too tall as a thumbstick, too short as a joystick.

Prox,

It’s playable via Rare Replay, though still a bit rough around the edges. Absolutely avoid any other versions as the controls elsewhere are unusually unusable.

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