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catalyst, (edited ) do games w Remembering Descent, the once-popular, fully 3D 6DOF shooter
@catalyst@lemmy.world avatar

Man I friggin loved Descent II. Game was so fun and immersive. I watched that opening cinematic over and over. The soundtrack was fantastic as well.

I later went and played Descent 1 as well but 2 was the one I played the most.

2 also has the thief bot which while infuriating also lead to some of the most memorable gameplay for me. Just chasing that little piece of shit to the ends of the earth and then feeling so triumphant when I finally nabbed it and got my stuff back.

V4sh3r,
@V4sh3r@lemmy.world avatar

I was in a computer club in High School. So we were able to play a few games in the computer lab after school. The teacher that headed it absolutely loved playing Descent, but she was also so bad at it that it was pure blind luck if she ever actually hit anyone.

chunes,

Descent II has maybe the most unique soundtrack I have ever heard in a game.

catalyst,
@catalyst@lemmy.world avatar

It really was incredible. Especially back then when I hadn’t had much exposure yet to that style of music. The fact that it was CD quality instead of midi really helped.

I vividly remember discovering how you could just put the game disk in a regular CD player and it’d work. Kinda blew my mind lol.

kibiz0r, do games w Remembering Descent, the once-popular, fully 3D 6DOF shooter

I never played Descent itself, but I played a shitty clone on one of those “1000 Games on 10 CD-ROMs” packs back in the day.

After learning about the source material, I always wanted to go try it but haven’t taken the time.

truxnell, do games w Remembering Descent, the once-popular, fully 3D 6DOF shooter

Played the shit outra this and descent 2. Sad its gone, but it gave us my favourite space sim: Descent FreeSpace 1 & 2

TheRealKuni,

I loved Descent: Freespace, but I liked X-Wing: Alliance better.

halloween_spookster, do games w Remembering Descent, the once-popular, fully 3D 6DOF shooter

One of the things I’ve always remembered about Decent was when you put in cheat codes it would play a little sound effect of someone saying “cheater…”

wirelesswire,

I remember getting punished by trying to use the Descent 1 cheat codes in Descent 2.

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HeyThisIsntTheYMCA, do games w Remembering Descent, the once-popular, fully 3D 6DOF shooter
@HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world avatar

that was a great game

p03locke, do games w Remembering Descent, the once-popular, fully 3D 6DOF shooter
@p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Civvie 11 had a good video on both Descent games.

whotookkarl, do games w Remembering Descent, the once-popular, fully 3D 6DOF shooter

I played terminal velocity, kind of like the ‘we have descent at home’

Also around that time there was a game Magic Carpet EA published that had a similar feel

uninvitedguest,
@uninvitedguest@lemmy.ca avatar

Terminal Velocity was a fantastic game in its own right

Samskara,
@Samskara@sh.itjust.works avatar

Yes, I loved it.

RememberTheApollo_, do games w Remembering Descent, the once-popular, fully 3D 6DOF shooter
@RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world avatar

Played the hell out of 1, 2, and 3, along with Freespace. Planetdescent was my home for years. Shakerheads unite!

CaptManiac, do games w Remembering Descent, the once-popular, fully 3D 6DOF shooter
@CaptManiac@lemmy.world avatar

I remember I had a super low Kali number.

Grilipper54,

Descent 3 using Kali was my first online game experience. What a crazy time that was.

ICastFist, do games w Remembering Descent, the once-popular, fully 3D 6DOF shooter
@ICastFist@programming.dev avatar

Never had the chance to play it properly. I had a demo of it in a magazine CD, but could never figure out the controls

ZoteTheMighty, do games w Remembering Descent, the once-popular, fully 3D 6DOF shooter

If you like 6DOF games, check out Everspace 1 and 2.

teyiko6366, (edited ) do piracy w Google will block sideloading of unverified Android apps starting next year

Google’s move to block sideloading of unverified Android apps marks a major shift toward tighter security. While it aims to curb malware and fraud, it also raises concerns about user freedom and indie developer access—Android’s openness is slowly fading. mcdvoice

missingno, do games w Today’s game consoles are historically overpriced
@missingno@fedia.io avatar

As the article states, I think the biggest factor is just the slowing of Moore's Law. Not only is new tech improving at a slower pace, old tech just isn't getting cheaper to manufacture.

Though I think one more factor the article fails to account for is that console generations themselves are lasting much longer, and even bleeding into each other as last-gen games continue to get released well into the new generation. The steepest price cuts on the graph came at the end of a system's lifespan, those are just fire sale prices to clear out old stock. Comparing those numbers feels a bit misleading, because five years into an old console meant it was ready to be phased out, while five years now means we're only halfway through the generation.

I know there's a lot wrong with the industry, a lot that's worth circlejerking about, but the fact that we're seeing price increases isn't just some greedy CEO trying to pocket a few bucks, it's a sign of some serious extenuating circumstances. Whole damn economy's fucked, it's a problem bigger than gaming.

frezik,

They could just not have new consoles. We’re 5 years into this console generation and still don’t have a compelling reason to bother. They could admit that Moore’s Law is dead, and stop worrying about games being giant photorealistic open worlds full of fetch quests.

rafoix, do games w Today’s game consoles are historically overpriced

Decades of corporate consolidation only leads to higher consumer costs and record corporate profits.

Corporations should not be allowed to exist above a certain market cap. Break them up. Make them compete.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

There’s a very good couple of paragraphs in this article showing where the likely culprits are in the pricing of these consoles. There’s about as much competition now as there has been for the past four decades, but Moore’s Law has broken down.

Agent_Karyo,
@Agent_Karyo@lemmy.world avatar

Can’t speak for competition in consoles, but parts costs have radically increased, particularly GPUs (and it’s getting much more difficult to have generational leaps in graphics quality).

frezik,

The implication for that is new console generations are unnecessary. At most, they only need to refresh aspects of the design to control costs.

And this is a direct result of Moore’s Law breaking down. As originally formulated, it isn’t just about density of integrated components, but the cost of integrated components. That factor is gone by at least an order of magnitude. Nodes are still shrinking the size (roughly in line with a 24 month doubling rate), but they’re not making it cheaper.

www.wumpus-cave.net/post/2024/03/…/index.html

ieatpwns, do games w Today’s game consoles are historically overpriced

Some enthusiasts would have you believe that with prices adjusted for inflation the switch 2 is actually a deal at $450 and get mad when you say other wise

null,
@null@lemmy.nullspace.lol avatar

Compared to what?

ieatpwns, (edited )

Switch 1 in 2017

But then they won’t tell you that switch 2 uses the same type of capacitive analog sticks cursed with stick drift instead up updating to Hall effect sticks. Or that you really really don’t own the games because the games are actually just download keys.

Edit to add: Pro controllers also cost more than last gen and they’re lower craftsmanship and aren’t repair friendly because they weld plastic instead of using screws

null,
@null@lemmy.nullspace.lol avatar

I mean, historically it seems pretty in-line with Nintendo releases, adjusted for inflation:

  • NES: $582
  • SNES: $480
  • N64: $410
  • GCN: $362
  • Wii: $399
  • WiiU: $419
  • Switch 1: $396
  • Switch 2: $449

It’s only ~$50 more than the Switch 1, and they just raised the price of the Switch 1 by $50.

ieatpwns,

With each gen we got some advancements. Now they’re cutting corners for share holders

null,
@null@lemmy.nullspace.lol avatar

I mean, to pretend the Switch 2 is identical to the Switch 1 is pretty ridiculous.

ieatpwns,

I’m not implying there aren’t any improvements this time around I just feel like the improvements and corner cutting cancel each other out but that’s just my opinion

null,
@null@lemmy.nullspace.lol avatar

That’s fine, all I’m saying is it’s not like it’s significantly more expensive or out of line price-wise historically.

More to the point, the article wasn’t talking about launch prices of consoles at all.

PlantDadManGuy,

Shhh the sweaty neck beards are venting.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

It’s the part where the Switch 1 hasn’t gone down in price that the article is talking about.

null,
@null@lemmy.nullspace.lol avatar

Which is not what the person I replied to was taking about…

subignition,
@subignition@fedia.io avatar

Existing switch owners can use any wireless controllers they already have with the switch 2. The pro controller 2 does have much nicer joysticks IMO, but you don't need one unless you really want the dedicated button for GameChat or the grip buttons

missingno,
@missingno@fedia.io avatar

If you want to complain about other unrelated things, go ahead. But the price is pretty reasonable compared to everything else on the market.

sigmaklimgrindset,

That’s not what this article is talking about though. It’s talking about how single generation consoles don’t get any price drops anymore. The comparison isn’t Switch 1 vs Switch 2 prices, it’s launch Switch 1 vs current Switch 1 prices.

Like let’s vent about Nintendo all we want, but at least let’s read the article first.

subignition,
@subignition@fedia.io avatar

Article title probably should have been "yesterday's" consoles if the focus is on the previous generation not getting price drops 🥴

sigmaklimgrindset,

You misunderstood: current gen isn’t getting price drops while previous gen usually did. Current gen PS5/Pro and Xbox Series S/X are all actually more expensive now factoring in inflation (excluding the impact of the tariffs) than at launch. Since the Switch 2 literally launched two months ago, we can’t really talk about price drops for it, so we compare the Switch 1. The article headline is correct, and all of this is in the body of the article.

subignition,
@subignition@fedia.io avatar

fair enough. I didn't scroll past the first graph in the article, which was comparing switch 1 prices. That plus this part of your previous comment had me thinking current-gen consoles weren't the topic.

The comparison isn't Switch 1 vs Switch 2 prices, it's launch Switch 1 vs current Switch 1 prices.

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