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misterundercoat, do gaming w Report: Unity considering revenue-based fee caps, self-reported install numbers

This guy’s headshot looks like a character creation screen after hitting randomize

jmcs, do gaming w Report: Unity considering revenue-based fee caps, self-reported install numbers

This still requires games to track all the devices they are installed in and phone home.

fckreddit, do gaming w Report: Unity considering revenue-based fee caps, self-reported install numbers

Devs should stop trusting Unity after this fiasco. Sudden, random and retroactive changes to TOS is never good for business.

Now Unity should go bankrupt. But, that is hoping too much, I guess.

M500,

I agree. I am not a game dev, but I have considered making a game before. I do have programming experience. I just started a Godot tutorial today.

The tutorial focused on how to use the interface for the most part. I will not continue the tutorial I was using as it was video, and I really prefer to read. I’ll see if No Starch Press has a book. I typically like the books they publish.

Update It does not look like they have a Godot book. I will keep looking for one.

Excrubulent, do gaming w Report: Unity considering revenue-based fee caps, self-reported install numbers
@Excrubulent@slrpnk.net avatar

Honestly at this point just the peace of mind of working in a FOSS engine and not under a corporation that can do this whenever is enough to motivate me to learn godot. I’ve got some prototypes I can port into that engine to learn on, it might even be some good motivation to start integrating them into a single project.

wave_walnut, do gaming w Report: Unity considering revenue-based fee caps, self-reported install numbers
@wave_walnut@kbin.social avatar

This price change would be not for gaming industry gains, but for the capitalist's private appetite. Unity engine would be added unneccesary features for it.

Cruxifux, do gaming w Report: Unity considering revenue-based fee caps, self-reported install numbers

Dude every company does this shit. The whole “announce something twice as bad as what you wanna do so you look good when you roll it back” schtick is as old as sliced bread. I do it to my wife all the time.

Sometimes the find out nobody really cares and they get to do the even worse thing. It’s a win win.

ulkesh, do gaming w Report: Unity considering revenue-based fee caps, self-reported install numbers
@ulkesh@beehaw.org avatar

I think we could have done a lot of things a lot better.

No shit, Sherlock. Not fucking over your client-base, for one. One would think he’s not fit to be CEO of cow shit after this douche was previously in charge of EA during some of the worst years of that company.

There are alternatives to Unity. Time to move on if possible.

BluJay320, do gaming w Report: Unity considering revenue-based fee caps, self-reported install numbers

They did too much damage already. They’ve lost all developer trust, and deserve to crash and burn for this

Celestus, do gaming w Report: Unity considering revenue-based fee caps, self-reported install numbers

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  • M500,

    Yes, I totally have had them confused this entire time 🤦‍♂️

    MrBobDobalina,

    I’d suggest editing that in the main post for those who don’t know and don’t see this comment

    hedgehog, do games w Judge issues legal permaban, $500K judgment against serial Destiny 2 cheater

    For something like cheating and streaming your exploits on Twitch, it makes sense for a suit like this. Bungie’s reputation would suffer even more due to his audience being much more likely to seek out cheating tools, to associate the game with cheating, and to spread both those pieces of information themselves.

    In a case where the damages are real and not contrived, copyright feels a bit more legit.

    $500k feels extreme, though, even in this case. Is this based off real sales, stock prices, or back of the napkin math? Maybe mark it down to his scale of income. So they have $100 million in annual ebitda (and excluding any funny business like stock buybacks) and he makes $50k before taxes but after living expenses. That $500k is worth 1/600th of their annual income and so should be 1/600th of his: $250. Multiply that by as much as 10 due to the severity of his actions (or divide by as much as 10) and you’ve got $2500 in damages. Much more reasonable.

    Bit rough going the opposite way, but fair’s fair.

    RiikkaTheIcePrincess, do games w Judge issues legal permaban, $500K judgment against serial Destiny 2 cheater
    @RiikkaTheIcePrincess@kbin.social avatar

    [Very sarcasm] It's nice that copyright just means a copyright holder gets to do literally anything they want as long as a relevant work is involved. Wouldn't want anyone to get away with any kind of local modification, tinkering, tweaking an old piece of software to work in a modern environment, some forms of modding... All obviously reprehensible violations of a wank gesture, eyeroll Copyright Holder's right to control distribution of their work!

    IP law is so fucking vile, and yet proves it can continually get even worse :|

    Edit to preempt, just in case: Also, no I don't need another bullshit lecture on how "IP law isn't a real thing, it refers to separate segments of law blah-blah-blah" but somehow can't be used as a term because some wankstain feels like being condescending.

    Kolanaki,
    !deleted6508 avatar

    Like… I don’t disagree with the sentiment here when it comes to most things that have to do with copyright and modifications; but if you’re using the modifications to get an unfair advantage in a multiplayer game, you’re a piece of shit and deserve punishment.

    xcxcb, do games w Judge issues legal permaban, $500K judgment against serial Destiny 2 cheater

    I just hope “injected code” and “overlays” don’t become somehow actually illegal because of these rulings because there are plenty of valid uses too.

    platypode,
    @platypode@sh.itjust.works avatar

    I’m curious what uses you have in mind–anything that’s an online competitive (i.e., you compete against other players–doesn’t need to be esports sweaty) game I don’t think there’s a strong case for allowing injected code, since that’s an avenue for gaining an unfair advantage and thereby worsening other players’ enjoyment, and anything offline I can’t see it being worth a company’s time and money to prosecute.

    xcxcb,

    Destiny 2 isn’t really online competitive for starters.

    RobertOwnageJunior,

    It definitely has elements though.

    xcxcb,

    No, it really doesn’t at all in a sense that anyone cares remotely about.

    BloodyFable,

    It definitely has elements in it.

    Void, solar, arc, strand and as stasis.

    You should learn more about the game if you’re gonna criticize it.

    Haui,
    @Haui@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

    I agree. Competitive games and code injection don’t mix but for those that are not competitive (i.e. minecraft), code injection is important.

    Maestro,
    @Maestro@kbin.social avatar

    I think the problem is that the ruling now establishes that overlays and injected code are a copyright violation. Therefor any overlay or injected code is now illegal unless you have permission from the authors if the game.

    BirdyBoogleBop,

    Well Nintendo are very litigious they already DMCA’ed a Zelda Breath of the Wild multiplayer mod. (As in it made the single player game multiplayer)

    I really wouldn’t want them to have more power to hurt their fans.

    Risk,

    The solution is to not be a Nintendo fan.

    No, seriously. You support their draconic practices by buying their games.

    PeterPoopshit, (edited )

    This. Nintendo is one of the least ethical videogame companies out there. Even when they come up with something new and innovative, it’s so locked down you’re better off waiting to play someone else’s copycat of it.

    psycho_driver, do games w Judge issues legal permaban, $500K judgment against serial Destiny 2 cheater

    Damn. That seems excessive. Then again, online cheaters are vermin.

    otter,

    Sounds like it was because of they were selling cheating software (and maybe versions of the game that allowed cheating?)

    So the amount might be related to how much they made from doing that

    xcxcb, (edited )

    They way it reads is that they were actually playing and circumventing bans, possibly selling accounts too maybe. They were streaming their exploits on Twitch too.

    charonn0, do gaming w Judge issues legal permaban, $500K judgment against serial Destiny 2 cheater
    @charonn0@startrek.website avatar

    Leone […] tried to “opt out” of the game’s license agreement as a minor in an attempt to do a legal end run around Bungie’s multiple account bans.

    Interestingly, this seems to have worked, even if it didn’t work out the way he intended:

    1. Defendant disaffirmed the license agreement that licensed him to download and play Destiny 2, rendering that license void ab initio.
    2. Thus, Defendant’s download and use of Destiny 2 was unlicensed and Defendant infringed Plaintiff’s Copyrights each time he opened the software
    TwilightVulpine, do gaming w Volition (Saints Row developer) shuts down

    Embracer group is terrible. It came with big promises of reviving dormant franchises but it's just closing studios with not a single game announcement to show for it.

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