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clutchtwopointzero, do games w Nier creator Yoko Taro reveals the sad reality of modern AAA game development, “there’s less weird people making games”

Yoko Taro talking about weird shows a healthy deal of self awareness… +1 respect in my book

MidsizedSedan, do games w Nier creator Yoko Taro reveals the sad reality of modern AAA game development, “there’s less weird people making games”

I know im late to the party but… I just started playing Death Stranding. Lets just say its more than just a walking simulator…

Schadrach,

I mean, it’s being a mail carrier in a world that is maximum Kojima.

MITM0,
@MITM0@lemmy.world avatar

I mean it’s an Amazon delivery simulator so yeah

Blackmist,

It is mental, but I also kind of wish he’d hire somebody else to write dialogue for him.

And maybe somebody to check all the women characters, and make sure he’s not coming across as being a little bit odd.

FooBarrington,

Not sure what you mean - “Mario and Princess Beach” is obviously peak cinema

BrainInABox,

And maybe somebody to check all the women characters, and make sure he’s not coming across as being a little bit odd.

Yeah…

And Death Stranding is better about its female characters than most of the MGS games…

MidsizedSedan,

I JUST started collecting chrysalis crystals. (so mabyt 4-5 delvilvery/walking sim missions in)

To quote an old meme, ‘I know nothing Jon Snow’ but one i saw the ::: spoiler Title Hand prints in the sand, :::

I knew this was more than a walking simulator

Blackmist,

By the time you finish the game, whatever you’ve seen so far will seem like the most normal thing in the world.

Definitely a lot of standard Kojima gameplay in there, among the apocalyptic Deliveroo simulator and bonkers 4th wall breaking.

Crankenstein, do games w Nier creator Yoko Taro reveals the sad reality of modern AAA game development, “there’s less weird people making games”

Capitalism at its finest.

hark, do games w Nier creator Yoko Taro reveals the sad reality of modern AAA game development, “there’s less weird people making games”
@hark@lemmy.world avatar

The weird people are still there, but development teams are much larger now, so their input is not as prominent. Plus the budgets are so large that a flop can heavily damage a company or even ruin it, so they’re very risk-averse. We need more AA or A games instead of relying so much on heavy-hitters.

jol,

The weird people still make tons of indie games.

SCmSTR,

Indie games are great and all, but everybody I know is still waiting for great AAA games again that we can play together.

MITM0,
@MITM0@lemmy.world avatar

Well you need better friends

jol,

I mean, sure, complaining and while doing the same thing and expecting a different result is one strategy. AAA games are purely capitalistic endeavours.

Zaleramancer, do gaming w Nier creator Yoko Taro reveals the sad reality of modern AAA game development, “there’s less weird people making games”

The pressure applied by the need for video games to act as investments is not aligned with artistic expressiveness, innovation or quality.

This is why games from smaller Companies or indie developers continue to be the huge, genre-changing breakout hits. They’re still being made with the intention of making a game that’s fun, weird, or interesting as a primary concern, rather than just being a vehicle for profit.

This trend will continue.

some_guy, do games w Nier creator Yoko Taro reveals the sad reality of modern AAA game development, “there’s less weird people making games”

That’s the entire tech industry. I got in at the tail end of it being full of nerds who were interested in computers. Then jocks and the like found out it pays really well and now it isn’t fun anymore.

AnalogNotDigital,

Yeah man all those well known jocks like Spez and Zuckerberg sure did a number on tech.

burgerpocalyse,

hey mark does ju jitsu and he’s totally really good at it and all the other martial artist guys love hanging out with him

AnalogNotDigital,

Is he actually good at it or are guys who want to hang out with a billionaire saying he’s good at it?

axby,

+1 to this, I feel like having a ton of money is what corrupts leadership, not necessarily their technical background.

Maybe Spez and Zuck haven’t changed much, but I feel like some others started out as relatively reasonable people who were also technically brilliant, but eventually their companies started doing shitty things and they are both aware and apparently unwilling to stop it.

Perhaps corruption in the Soviet Union is a good example of how even people from normal hard working backgrounds (i.e. not billionaires who have never worked a day in their life) can still be corrupted by power and a lack of accountability.

Baguette,

Jocks != Business c suite

bystander,

Too many business majors joined game dev teams

Valmond,

What’s a jock if it isn’t the highschool quarterback?

Non usa-ish here

Valmond,

Yeah, it was nice as long as it lasted, now it’s all meetings and stupid “agility” (as agile as DPRK is democratic) and measurings of your percieved productivity.

I’m still looking, maybe some c/c++ old legacy system needs a geek somewhere?

Shardikprime, do games w Nier creator Yoko Taro reveals the sad reality of modern AAA game development, “there’s less weird people making games”

After Spec Ops The line, everything went to shit, the bar was too high

SupraMario,

Dunno why you’re being downvoted, that game was insanely good. Mediocre shooter, but the story was amazingly good.

pycorax,

Because there were still plenty of good games that came out after that?

pugnaciousfarter,

Yeah, personally a huge fan of the game, but if you think spec ops the line is the last best game, then you really haven’t played that many good games since.

There’s also such a thing as subjective tastes and I believe that it’s more so significant in games because of how diverse they are.

SupraMario,

That’s true. I was more commenting on how good a game it was though, but I do think it’s peak story for me. KCD series is second. There hasn’t been another game for me that had such a crazy twist in it than spec ops.

outhouseperilous,

More than ‘story’, the way they made every part of the game about it.

It was mediocre/workmanlike when viewed entirely as a shooter. But most of the gameplay just used ‘shooter’ as framing.

ansiz, do games w Nier creator Yoko Taro reveals the sad reality of modern AAA game development, “there’s less weird people making games”

Everyone should go check out The Alters, it is a pretty weird game but a lot of fun with a great story and atmosphere. It’s a space survival, resource/building, race against incoming death game.

Coreidan, do games w Nier creator Yoko Taro reveals the sad reality of modern AAA game development, “there’s less weird people making games”

I stopped playing AAA games years ago. They are all trash.

Indie games are where it’s at

Edgarallenpwn,
@Edgarallenpwn@midwest.social avatar

I’ve mainly been an Indie gamer since 2012 or so. My last gaming build is almost 7 years old, but I think the last AAA game I played was during lockdown and that was just because it was a way to hang with friends. At this point I just play indie ports on my phone.

Funny enough, after going through my Steam recently played, the last AAA game I enjoyed was Nier.

maniajack,

I dunno I like elden ring and rdr2. Some are still good, just not most, anymore

Regrettable_incident,
@Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah I’m playing cyberpunk for the first time and really enjoying it. i don’t know how much it innovates, but I’d say it was certainly a good game.

dil,

The good ones are solid tho and last a long time, I do prefer indie/smallteam for the most part now

dil,

vrs got some cool unique stuff, vtol vr is solid gaming still got some really cool stuff coming out, I wanna live in a world where vtol vr is as popular as cod

REDACTED,

Some are quite good tho

Sixtyforce,
@Sixtyforce@sh.itjust.works avatar

Not all, but yeah. 75% of my wishlists are weird and interesting indie stuff from the constant Steam demo fests.

Blackmist,

They’re polished, but nearly all of them are too safe.

The ones that subvert things a little are always best for me, and these always get mixed reactions from people who went in with a set idea of what they wanted from it.

Red Dead Redemption 2 being a slow paced wild west simulator rather than Grand Theft Horse is a prime example. It didn’t play by safety and doing popular things. It did what they wanted it to be, and it’s all the better for it.

Kolanaki, do games w Nier creator Yoko Taro reveals the sad reality of modern AAA game development, “there’s less weird people making games”
@Kolanaki@pawb.social avatar

I don’t think you need to be weird to make weird games. I mean, it wouldn’t hurt but it’s not necessary. Just do what Fromsoft does: make the game first using the rule of cool, then write the story around it instead of the other way around.

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA, do games w Nier creator Yoko Taro reveals the sad reality of modern AAA game development, “there’s less weird people making games”
@HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world avatar

i mean if he just wants weird, i’m available for hire. got experience in storytelling and turning food into poop.

tisktisk, do games w Nier creator Yoko Taro reveals the sad reality of modern AAA game development, “there’s less weird people making games”

"Do you think video games are silly little things?"

TwoBeeSan,

no.

That entire credit sequence is high water mark for games as a medium.

Every emotion.

Drunk ass man writing his characters, crying in a room alone. The thing we need more of lol. Will purchase any game his name is attached to.

tisktisk,

I couldn't agree more

ijedi1234, do games w Nier creator Yoko Taro reveals the sad reality of modern AAA game development, “there’s less weird people making games”

There are plenty of weird people making weird games if you know where to look. itch io and DLSite, for instance.

FeelzGoodMan420,

That was literally his point…that the weird people make indie games and not AAA games.

grrgyle,

Read the article, you say? What a radical notion.

FeelzGoodMan420,

It’s pretty short too!

innermachine,

I didn’t even read the article that information is right in the title LOL

ijedi1234, (edited )

Sorry, I’m illiterate (this was written by my editor).

Rooty,

And it’s for the better, the AAA games industry devours talent and spits out mediocrity and burnouts. I would prefer that small indie studios keep control of their creative output rather than being devoured by the money machine.

outhouseperilous,

There is a space between ‘itch.io freebie that runs in terminal’ and ‘TROUT: Sacred Band 8’ and the unprecedented level if sliders for dicks in character creation

blazeknave, do games w Nier creator Yoko Taro reveals the sad reality of modern AAA game development, “there’s less weird people making games”

That’s why bg3 felt so special. For us by us at that scale

SaharaMaleikuhm, do games w Nier creator Yoko Taro reveals the sad reality of modern AAA game development, “there’s less weird people making games”

No worries. There is plenty of weird to find with indie games.

andros_rex,

Yeah, but how survivable is making indie games? Unless you make it big, you aren’t paying rent that way.

redwattlebird,

That’s why you need public funding to support and nourish the industry. We’ve got that in our state where we can get grants to start up studios. This allowed for studios such as Massive Monster to be created.

VC funding isn’t great because they can pull out if the project or investment doesn’t suit them. See League of Geeks.

mohab,

This take sucks. There's a clear cap on what indies can do because they have a limited budget. Whatever their output is, it's not comparable to big studios output.

What the market lacks is quirky games on a medium budget, which's not what indie scenes provide.

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