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Sciaphobia, do games w Game marketing company takes down blog post bragging about how good it is at astroturfing Reddit after Reddit finds the post

Reddit is like, dude you can’t just come out and SAY it.

DoucheBagMcSwag,

Reddit be like all the play writers from South Park when Randy Marsh found out that subliminal messages were being sent to women (Episode: Broadway Bro Down)

Aielman15, do games w Game marketing company takes down blog post bragging about how good it is at astroturfing Reddit after Reddit finds the post
@Aielman15@lemmy.world avatar

I love how so many people on Reddit are acting like this is a complete shock. That site has been a cesspool of bots and targeted ads for years now, people still believed they were having real conversations with humans? I’d be surprised if legit content was higher than 50%.

Arcane2077,

That’s just the consequence of being popular. Lemmy isn’t impervious or even resistant to this

real_squids,

And of insanely easy account creation. You didn’t even need an email.

commie,

Reddit doesn’t require email either.

real_squids,

I was talking about reddit. Lemmy, at least the instances i was on, needs manual approval

Creat,

They can literally setup an instance themselves. By the time it is identified as such, the damage is basically done. Just make a new one. Or use one of the many instances not requiring approval. Or fill out the form with ai. They don’t actually need an insane number of accounts for their subterfuge. Having just “some” and keeping them tied to conversational themes/topics seems sufficient?

piyuv,

I’d argue it is resistant. Lemmy is federated, which means smaller instances, making it easier to detect this kind of activity. Crime in a city vs crime in a town situation

ExLisper,

Nah, it works for now because no one really tries to spam lemmy. If it gets popular enough companies will pay bot farms to post here and admins want be able to keep up with moderation. Bots will simply join the biggest instances. The only solution would be to defederate the main instances and have everyone pretty much host their own server.

Die4Ever,
@Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com avatar

I think to an extent yes, but not quite as bad as Reddit. Reddit admins will completely ignore reports about these. I think most Fediverse admins won’t ignore them.

groet,

And if everybody hosts their own server, than so will the advertisers and everybody will have to defederate then individually making the problem of moderation even worse.

snooggums,

When it gets bad enough the default will switch from blacklists to whitelists and the user base will consolidate to fewer and fewer popular instances that are able to address the spam.

groet,

Bots will simply join the biggest instances. The only solution would be to defederate the main instances and have everyone pretty much host their own server.

the user base will consolidate to fewer and fewer popular instances that are able to address the spam.

You spin me right round, baby, right round 🎶🎶

ExLisper,

But hosting servers cost real money so creating thousands of them may not be cost effective for spammers. Paywalls are the best defense against spammers. Of course this is all hypothetical. Self hosting will never be mainstream. Or maybe? 🤔

Aielman15,
@Aielman15@lemmy.world avatar

Oh, absolutely. Which is why I avoid popular social media: you just end up drowning in AI/botted content.

Lembot_0005,

Most people are unable to tell the difference between human and bot and, to be honest, a significant percentage of humans are dumber than modern LLMs.

HeyJoe,

As someone who never saw Instagram before yesterday, I was a little shocked at just how much crap was AI generated and just useless fake content. I kept hearing how bad AI was, but until I saw just how bad I really had no idea. I imagine reddit is getting closer to this exact model soon enough.

turdcollector69,

It’s so bad, basically every post there is pushed by bots. The entire purpose of reddit is to shape opinion by forced consensus.

It’s a propaganda machine inside the bloated husk of a forum aggregator.

Lemmy isn’t impervious but it’s much better than reddit.

cerebralhawks,

There’s a way to look at the top Karma users on Reddit. Most of them are either bots, or corporate account. There’s a Marvel one that posts movie stuff, and some Turbo something or other for gaming. They don’t comment, they just post what their corporate overlords want you to see, and they probably have bots that push their content to the top. They just aggregate popular sites, though, driving people into the ads.

When I was on Reddit, going to that leaderboard to block people was my first stop. Though, I do think there are a few that are interesting, even bots — like the haiku one is amusing. It doesn’t always get it right, but it’s fun to see it try. Then there’s a guy — pretty sure it’s a person, at least — who turns posts into poems. Not quite the same. Got a weird name. Regular Redditors know who they are. “Something for your something”, I think. I don’t block the fun ones. Just the corporate trash.

brsrklf,

Poem for your sprog, right? Not been on reddit for a while, but encountering a post from that guy was generally a fun moment.

Manjushri,

Oh, Poem for your Sprog. I remember that one. Users like that are one of the few things I miss about Reddit.

psx_crab, do games w Game marketing company takes down blog post bragging about how good it is at astroturfing Reddit after Reddit finds the post

Reddit be like

User A: i made this

Reddit: fuck off with the self marketing!

User B: my friend(definitely not me) quit their job and made this

Reddit: ohh my god this is brilliant!

mrnarwall, do games w Game marketing company takes down blog post bragging about how good it is at astroturfing Reddit after Reddit finds the post

This confirms what I expected. I thought I was going crazy the first time I saw an ask reddit repost and I recognized all the top answers. Eventually they bots will outnumber the users and dead Internet theory will prevail

There are definitely pockets of reddit that don’t have their content flooded with bots, but they are the exception in today’s day and age. I especially enjoy the college football subreddit, as there still isn’t quite something similar on lemmy

DoucheBagMcSwag, do games w Game marketing company takes down blog post bragging about how good it is at astroturfing Reddit after Reddit finds the post

Oh no WHICH marketing company so I can’t avoid them?

Edit: marketing firm is TRAP PLAN and the game that used is services was War Robots: Frontiers

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