I thought this trailer looked fantastic, I don’t know what the rest of you all are smoking. As a fallout fan it was more than enough to get me excited for the series, also Walton Goggins as a ghoul chefs kiss.
That was my impression too. The costumes and CG seemed a bit goofy to me. But then again, so did the original Witcher trailer, and that ended-up looking mostly fine when I actually watched it, so…
It’s west coast fallout by Bethesda, and I really don’t know how I expect them to handle the established material. I hope they do justice to what’s been written already
That said, I thought the first few seconds right up until Dogmeat started eating the Radroach looked pretty mid. I got really psyched and excited when I saw the BoS power armor
People need to remember that fallout isn’t the last of Us or god of war, fallout is a cool series with a cool world, but it’s not a masterpiece of story telling and writing. These showrunners aren’t making Lord of the rings over here, it’s not gonna be hard to make a decent show based in an established world.
They’re keeping the aesthetic and design, so I’m happy. But so many people don’t have a nuanced opinion anymore, and a show is either a perfect 10 or it’s “unwatchable garbage”. I’ve seen and loved shows that I give a solid 8 to, but anything below a nine gets called “shit” these days.
What? It’s almost universally accepted that New Vegas is one of the greatest RPGs of all time. Go through any “top RPGs of all time” list and you’re pretty much guaranteed to find New Vegas there, usually in the top half of the list.
Those clickbait bot written posts have a bigger significance than your “No it’s not lmao”. I’m gonna side with the bots rather than some self-important contrarian.
I can’t really think of a worse way to spend my time. Just go explore bro. If new Vegas is fantastic to you there’s a whole world of gold out there to find.
Go explore what exactly? That is literally what I was asking. What are those exceptional games that I’ve missed in my 20+ years of gaming that turn New Vegas into a turd? But if you can’t be bothered then just say you have shit taste and don’t know what you’re talking about and we can end it there.
Haha, look at you. So angry because of some slight criticism of your little game. Is Fallout New Vegas with you in the room right now? Blink if you need help. For your sanity sake I want to point out I literally called it a good game. You can stop stomping your angry little feet now.
Because I’m talking to an AI. No intelligent thought, just words strung together to make a sentence. Really, your last 5 comments on this thread have literally no substance. You could’ve written “Goo Goo Gaga” every time and it would’ve been just as informative as what you actually wrote.
Greatest action RPGs, perhaps. But even that has little bearing on TV show writing, since the important writing aspect of RPGs is the mass of options, not the actual writing itself.
Wheel of Time is not bad imo. At least not season 2. The thing with that series is that it’s not possible to adapt every single thing from 14 books to 8 seasons with 8 episodes. I went into it as a new turn of the Wheel, and while the first season didn’t do much for me, with the second one I can actually see the beginnings of something that can become really good. I’m cautiously optimistic about the coming seasons now.
The thing with that series is that it’s not possible to adapt every single thing from 14 books to 8 seasons with 8 episodes.
Completely fair, but when they spend entire episodes on things that could have been easily and faithfully reduced to a 10 minute scene, or spent more than half of the first season on “who’s the dragon? it’s such a mystery!!” when that wasn’t even a plot point of the first book. It’s a fair argument, but not when they completely squandered their available screentime on frivolous things. At that point it’s just a cop-out.
I went into it as a new turn of the Wheel
I get this was the approach of a lot of viewers, but when you have to do personal mental gymnastics to justify liking the way the adaptation was done, then you’ve already admitted that it’s bad. And forget things like the order of events and such. I’m talking about radically changing the world rules, how the One Power works, and characters assassinations. Rand is supposed to be one of the most gentle and caring people alive. To the point that was slowly driving himself mad with trying to keep everyone safe and alive. The effort to do the right thing was breaking him inside and it’s one of the major aspects of his character. And then in the show he murders a guy to get into the hospital where Logain was living. Nope, I have no interest. I have the books and I can enjoy those.
Rings of power was alright once you accepted it’s just a completely different adaptation with no connection to the previous films. And is also not being true to the books to a T. It’s far enough away from the events that I love in that world that I can separate it enough and still enjoy it.
I still would’ve preferred a more page by page adaptation of the Hobbit onwards though, especially the hobbit since it’s my favourite LOTR book.
No it isn’t. It’s terribly written. The speech of Sauron to Galadriel was something a five year old wrote. Galadriel just jumped into the middle of the ocean? Also she took a pyroclastic blast right to the face and doesn’t even have a scratch? Whereas other characters are fully blinded.
And all the changes, which each on their own might be forgivable, but there where just so many that it all added up to something off-feeling and weird. It would be like shifting each note in a Mozart piece by a little in different directions, and then listening to the whole thing wouldn’t be pleasant. This is another one of those things where they made changes for sake of change or to fit a particular story/reveal they wanted to write. Tolkien’s works were already a masterpiece, what was the benefit in changing it? At best it adds absolutely nothing to the final product itself, and at worse just makes the whole legendarium muddied and disjointed.
For example, when the show took place Aman was not cut off from Middle-Earth yet. Specifically because it was cut off after Sauron poisoned the hearts of the Numenoreans and convinced them to attack the Valar and invade Aman. As a punishment Eru Illuvitar sunk Numenor into the sea and made all of Middle-Earth “round”, so that sailing west would just bring them back around to the other side of Middle-Earth. So to get to Aman after that required sailing through a special path that only the Elves knew about, which is what we see in the show. But before the sinking of Numenor, anyone could sail west to Aman. And, IIRC, in the show we actually see a glimpse of Aman in the distance of one of the Numenorean ships. They regularly would see the shores of Aman in the far distance and wonder about it.
So if Aman was only reachable by the secret path, why could the Numenoreans see it from their ships? But in either case, this is a huge change in the lore and order of events. It might not matter to the casual viewer, but to fans of Tolkien (the people who are the hype-men for these kinds of stories, and generally the reason shows like this ultimately get green-lit) it doesn’t make sense and breaks the story.
You might want to re-read what I said cause I agree with a lot of that. Accepting it’s so different that I don’t even consider it a part of lord of the rings is what allowed me to enjoy my time watching it.
Sorry, I didn’t mean to shoot you down or anything. I just really didn’t like Rings of Power. There were things I did like, such as Durin and his wife (although all Durin’s are supposed to be black-haired). But overall I think it’s terrible.
I mean fallout certainly has the world and stories to be turned into a series of movies or a tv show. I just hope they don’t focus too much on the woke aspect and actually take advantage of the source material and storytelling
I’m against producers hamfisting woke ideals into content, like if the whole series was just shallow men=evil, women=strong, or every single character is non binary and points are constantly being made about it and things like that.
When it feels more like a circle jerk than just realities of the story, going out of its way to basically virtue signal removing focus from the actual interesting stories
There’s not enough wackiness in the trailer. Fallout has always had a thin veneer of grimdark with a whole hidden iceberg of goofy bullshit and it was amazing.
There are a lot of reasons to not judge it yet. First and foremost, the director/show runner has zero input on the trailer. That’s all the marketing department, and the trailer is designed to get as many eyeballs as possible on the final product. Numerous examples exist of trailers which bared little resemblance to the movie/show/game/whatever.
Secondly, they buried the lead on the director. Jonathan Nolan did direct much of Westworld. But he also wrote a bunch of award winning films for his brother, Christopher Nolan. Movies like Memento, Interstellar, The Prestige, and Dark Knight. He’s no slouch, and I’ll reserve judgement until I see it.
J. Nolan also did “Person of Interest”. It’s a lesser-known show but it was very good.
It felt like a classic 80s show at first(the hero is a badass supported by an eccentric rich guy to help random people) but, without spoiling it, it takes a very interesting turn.
Strange, I got the exact opposite feel from the teaser. If anything they nailed the tone of fallout in that 2 and a half minute spot. Plus the set design and costumes don’t look cheap or fake. Im cautiously optimistic.
The vault costumes definitely looked cheap, more cosplay fan film than professional production in my opinion. And the cgi on the mechs was very uncanny valley
I haven’t found a place in my life for these types of TV series. Looks good though just prefer the complete arc of a movie or a mini-series.
Sets look kind of big budget artificial, soapy? Like that is some wicked blue dye on the suits, very fresh. Lovely hair and makeup. All good though I realize it’s just not my thing. A cinematic 90 minute fallout movie laser focused on 2-3 character arcs would be exciting to me.
I’m kinda scared that the trailer was knee deep in “from the ____ who did _____ .”
Granted, it’s a teaser trailer, but it would have been cool to see a little more of what this show has to offer. e.g. The Boyz is great, because the story adapted from it’s source material was already interesting. I’d love to learn more about the story of this adaptation, esp since there’s a lot they’d have to do to turn the non linear, choose your own adventure source material into a non-interactive story.
Feels like the showrunners and story writers would have the opposite challenge of, say, The Last of Us. There, it was all about retelling an existing story and resisting the urge to reinvent too much.
Here they’d need to pick one of many stories and fill in a bunch of gaps.
Even though each game is a player driven RPG, there’s a canon “through line” of major events from 1 to 2 to New Vegas. 3 and 4 are set far enough away or in a different enough period of time that the plot impact is more minor.
Personally though, I hope this is less of an adaptation and more of a “side stories in the setting”.
From what I’ve read about the series it’s actually set 4 years after Fallout 4 events. So it’s more “side stories in the setting” rather than straight up adaptation.
If it’s an anthology series following different people in different parts of the world dealing with different scenarios then I’m waaay more on board from that than what they showed us in the trailer.
If you’re a fallout fan, you’re already on board. Our viewership is a given, and is theirs to lose. But for people who aren’t big fans, having big names attached shows it’s serious business. It’s meant to convince people on the fence that it’s worth an initial watch since there’s money and names behind it so maybe it’s not just “some dumb low budget video game shit.”
I don’t know. I’ve played every Fallout game (except tactics and that weird PS2/Xbox game) and it won’t even be on my radar until word of mouth confirms it’s good. The moment I saw Todd Howards name my interest plummeted. I’m happy that Bethesda has kept the franchise alive but Fallout 3 and 4 are a whole step below what Black isle/Obsidian created. If the show is going to be based on the Bethesda vision of Fallout then it’s instantly going to be at odds with the fanbase.
Maybe it’ll be good, maybe it won’t. But after the 400+ hours I spent in fo4, I’m willing to commit to another hour to see if the first episode is any good. I’ve spent longer than that hunting for literal trash in-game. :)
Idk where it looks great comes from, this looks like the Fallout 76 trailers. So focused on cheesey looking high budget CGI, the colors on the suits look too fresh and vibrant(imo), power armor CGI looks honestly too expressive- not like a hydraulic walking tank.
Edit: I just clicked the link, I think this is a different version of what I watched, this looks much better
There’s not really any limits for content anymore. Look at Amazon’s The Boys.
The way you play Fallout / Skyrim / Bethesda games might end up being a perfect format for a television adaption.
You can have a main character and follow their travels in a really strange setting. You can have 1 off episodes with perticular styles much like the quests in the game. You can easily switch from a dark horror filled vault to a campy town the next episode. Kind of like the files would have lighter episodes then some really dark ones and occasionally an episode about the main characters.
Because the fallout universe has a lot to be explored you a smart writing team could do a lot.
Fallout is not a masterpiece of story telling or cinematography. It was written by non writers mostly. It’s not the godfather. It isn’t going to be hard for professional writers to make it work better than the games, and clearly they’re not fucking with the visual designs of the series.
If Howard is involved your can bet the show will be boring and cheesy as fuck.
I’m honestly shocked so many of you are giving this show a chance after the disaster of Fallout 76, Starfield’s mediocrity + the weird ass review controversy. It’s incredible how much loyalty a corp can command
I agree that their games have been shit for a while, I didn’t even think F4 was good, and NV demonstrated that Bethesda shouldn’t be the ones developing the series.
F3 was great at the time, but after playing NV, you can see that Bethesda is interested in creating a very railroaded experience (pun not intended).
However, I think a TV show might be fine, seeing as though the stories of Fallout haven’t been bad; it has just been bad mechanically.
I was never a fan of the Fallout games (just couldn't get into the setting for some reason), but this looks surprisingly good. I'll probably give this a watch. Hoping it's a better adaptation than The Last of Us was, as I love when a video game adaptation succeeds.
In my opinion, it very quickly became a generic zombie apocalypse survival story after a couple episodes. I thought the fungal angle to a zombie outbreak was a very interesting take, and I would've liked to see a bit more focus on that aspect of things. But they hardly showed off the zombies at all. It gave me TWD vibes for most of the episodes. And not the good "look at the flowers" vibes, but the "spend half of Season 2 walking up and down this small stretch of road looking for a girl who isn't there" vibes.
The cast were all fantastic, but I just wasn't that hooked with the storytelling, I guess.
I couldn’t disagree about genericness more. Also, the zombies have never been the central source of conflict for TLoU; they are just a plot device used as backdrop to flush out interpersonal and fundamentally human conflicts.
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