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badbytes, do games w Black Myth: Wukong producer on The Game Awards top prize snub: "I came all the way here for nothing!"

Aren’t the game awards, just a panel of a handful of members. If so, not sure the award means much.

UnbrokenTaco,

The Game Awards are chosen by an international jury of over 100 global media and influencer outlets

From the FAQ

badbytes,

Thx, aren’t many of those outlets owned by same conglomerate?

ampersandrew, (edited )
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

They run the gamut from the long-standing outlets like IGN to the Patreon-funded stuff like MinnMax.

UnbrokenTaco,

No, I don’t think so. Maybe a couple but it’s a pretty wide net. Which ones did you think were?

NuXCOM_90Percent,

There are definitely some large chunks. But there have been no signs of any of those outlets caring enough to try to vote as a bloc.

There are definitely a lot of flaws in how the jury is selected and many (most?) of the judges past and present have pointed that out. Stuff like how they are fundamentally not qualified to judge fighting games as fighting games or the mess that is the “simulation and strategy” category or whatever they call “PC games” where people are somehow comparing MS Flight Sim to Farm Simulator to Satisfactory.

But for stuff like the major awards? It is a pretty diverse crowd and there is no indication that any group cares enough to rig the vote beyond group discords where people pester other games media folk because they want to play Helldivers again and their usual crew are busy.


I’ll also add on that, for its many many flaws, the keighleys is pretty good about being aware of this kind of thing based on a few outlets that talked about how they were judges in the past and then suddenly never mentioned it again after an acquisition or the loss of a core editor.

Semjaza,

I’ll also add on that, for its many many flaws, the keighleys is pretty good about being aware of this kind of thing based on a few outlets that talked about how they were judges in the past and then suddenly never mentioned it again after an acquisition or the loss of a core editor.

Is that /s?
Because that last sentence really gives me pause for thought…

CosmoNova, do games w Black Myth: Wukong producer on The Game Awards top prize snub: "I came all the way here for nothing!"

China mad Japan won in American awards. You love to see it.

ZeroHora,
@ZeroHora@lemmy.ml avatar

This year Japan was try-harding so much

deus,

Were they? Last year they had Mario and Zelda and the year before they had Elden Ring. This year doesn’t feel particularly strong.

ZeroHora,
@ZeroHora@lemmy.ml avatar

Look at the nominee in all categories, they had Astro bot, Elden Ring DLC, FF7, Metaphor Refantazio, Like a Dragon Infinite Wealth, Zelda Echoes of Wisdom, they had a lot of games this year and they are all competing in different categories.

dance_ninja, do games w Black Myth: Wukong producer on The Game Awards top prize snub: "I came all the way here for nothing!"

Machine translated comments are here: reddit.com/…/game_producer_of_black_myth_wukongs_…

Chinese translations aren’t always the best in my experience, so hard to tell what’s serious vs what’s said in a joking manner.

My partner has been playing BMWK, and from what I’ve seen it’s an excellent effort for a studio known for mobile games. That being said, there’s noticeably rough edges, so I’m not surprised it didn’t get game of the year (whatever the decision criteria is).

Glide, do games w Black Myth: Wukong producer on The Game Awards top prize snub: "I came all the way here for nothing!"

Man, calling this a snub is a misnomer to begin with.

icecreamtaco, do games w Black Myth: Wukong producer on The Game Awards top prize snub: "I came all the way here for nothing!"
@icecreamtaco@lemmy.world avatar

That’s how awards work lmao. 5 losers, one winner

Glide,

One winner and five nominee’s. Let’s not downplay being in the top 6 nominations for “best game of the year” as “losing.” It’s an incredible achievement no matter how you look at it.

drdiddlybadger,
@drdiddlybadger@pawb.social avatar

Especially for a fresh team that’s amazing.

icecreamtaco,
@icecreamtaco@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah you’re right

cybervseas, do games w Black Myth: Wukong producer on The Game Awards top prize snub: "I came all the way here for nothing!"

As the article says, since his comments were run through machine translation, it’s possible they’re meant more in jest rather than seriously. I’ll keep a charitable perspective on this until we learn more.

inclementimmigrant,

Since last night, I’ve seen a lot of strong dissatisfaction and frustration in players’ comments - often expressed humorously or ironically, which made me laugh,"

Jest or not, this one statement is irresponsible because this will only serve to encourage bad and toxic behavior and you know that’s how immature gamers will take it, as condoning their behavior.

jaggedrobotpubes,

The comment you responded to covered all that. It’s possible it’s a translation/tone error. No reason to assume face value given the stakes.

If that ends up being not the case, then ok.

inclementimmigrant,

No the OP did not. I’m literally saying tone does not matter and even if it was a flippant remark, gamers will take that as approval of their bullshit behavior.

Let’s face it, gamers are all too often immature assholes, Westerner, Easterners, wherever.

But whatever, people disagree and that’s fine.

Lumidaub,
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Then that would be the gamers’ fault, not the producer’s. They’re not responsible for how their comment may not only be taken out of context but also translated in a disadvantageous way.

acosmichippo,
@acosmichippo@lemmy.world avatar

except we know Chinese people have been review bombing other games because BMW didn’t win. Sure doesn’t seem like a joke to them.

Viri4thus,

This is based on a shit article from the shitrag “TheGamer” that calls 500 players downvoting a game a movement. There’s 1,4B people in China, 500 votes don’t even register. TheGamer is a clickbait/ragebait shitrag that weaponises xenophobia/culture wars/ignorace to generate traffic. They are the precise example of the enshitification of the Internet. Veritable parasites.

RightHandOfIkaros,

I got heavily downvoted for pointing out “TheGamer” as a poor source of gaming journalism in a post specifically linking to that article. So I guess that tells me everything I need to know about Lemmy?

nialv7,

i read the original on weibo and he appears to be (to me at least) fully serious. tried to invoke nationalistic pride as well

HipsterTenZero, do games w Black Myth: Wukong producer on The Game Awards top prize snub: "I came all the way here for nothing!"
@HipsterTenZero@dormi.zone avatar

lol

acosmichippo, do games w Black Myth: Wukong producer on The Game Awards top prize snub: "I came all the way here for nothing!"
@acosmichippo@lemmy.world avatar

there’s an easy fix for that, don’t come anymore.

RightHandOfIkaros,

there’s an easy fix for that, don’t come anymore.

How very warm and inviting of you. Im glad there are such welcoming people as you, that are excited to see new studios trying to make good games instead of the same old slop we get from the same old companies.

/s, in case anyone couldn’t tell. What an intolerant comment.

Deceptichum,
@Deceptichum@quokk.au avatar

Oh boo hoo, they’re intolerant of a rude person. Get a grip and stop defending this adult tantrum.

RightHandOfIkaros,

Lol.

“Come to Lemmy, we are so tolerant and super chill!”

Yeah, so that was a lie.

Gradually_Adjusting,
@Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world avatar

You don’t feel you came on a bit strong? Did you actually expect a sensitive and conciliatory response to your comment?

Deceptichum,
@Deceptichum@quokk.au avatar

No one said that.

Come to Lemmy because we’re a bunch of leftists who won’t hate you for who you were born. We sure as fuck are going to hate you for being an arsehole.

leftzero,

we are so tolerant and super chill

No we’re not, fuck off.

slaacaa,

You are free to leave

Roflmasterbigpimp,
@Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world avatar

You know the fediverse is huge, you can just move to some place you like more.

(I don’t want to be rude, I’m just telling you because your comment seems to indicate that you had more unpleasant encounters here.)

acosmichippo,
@acosmichippo@lemmy.world avatar
Roflmasterbigpimp,
@Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world avatar

Another solution is to place tolerance in the context of social contract theory: to wit, tolerance should not be considered a virtue or moral principle, but rather an unspoken agreement within society to tolerate one another’s differences as long as no harm to others arises from same. In this formulation, one being intolerant is violating the contract, and therefore is no longer protected by it against the rest of society.

SnotFlickerman, do games w Black Myth: Wukong producer on The Game Awards top prize snub: "I came all the way here for nothing!"
@SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

That’s some top tier Main Character Syndrome.

bruhsoulz, do games w Elder Scrolls Online developer votes to unionise
@bruhsoulz@lemmy.ml avatar

Not sure what this means in its entirety nor what it entails but I’m p sure its good so cool. ESO is one of my fav games yknow, been trying to get that running again but sadly protons refusing to play nice for some reason atm

JokeDeity, do gaming w FromSoftware is making more Elden Ring after all, with the co-op Elden Ring: Night Reign

Co-op like the way all Souls games are or co-op like in every other game with co-op

chloyster,

I believe it’s full coop. Not like from soft games. Seems to be a kinda 3 player roguelite thing. 3 players get random builds and weapons and make their way to a spot where a circle is closing in to fight a big boss together. Not a live service. Full game for one price

Sas,

The builds won’t be random but pre set characters with special abilities and Ultimates. They each play quite different. You’ll also find weapons and can put 3 in each hand as per usual but you don’t have to worry about weight

chloyster,

Ahh I see. I like that more I think. Cool!

zipzoopaboop, do gaming w FromSoftware is making more Elden Ring after all, with the co-op Elden Ring: Night Reign

The monkey paw furls a finger…

Vodulas, do gaming w FromSoftware is making more Elden Ring after all, with the co-op Elden Ring: Night Reign

Vaatividya had a good overview video. Looks fun to me, I just hope the community doesn’t turn out to be shit…

chloyster,

Yeah thankfully I have a built in group to play with haha. I can imagine randos being toxic

Vodulas,

For sure. I hope my friends want to play, otherwise I’ll probably skip this one

Sas,

In regular coop people seemed quite nice in ER but that’s with everyone being mute

Vodulas,

That is true. I wonder if they are going to do voice comms

prole, do games w Elder Scrolls Online developer votes to unionise

Hell yeah!

MajorHavoc, do games w Elder Scrolls Online developer votes to unionise

Nice. An effective union is probably the only thing that will bring me back to shopping for AAA titles again, so this seems like a win for everyone.

eupraxia,

probably the only thing that’ll bring me back to professional game dev. especially cool to see after how brutal of a year it’s been for the industry. hope this works out for them!!

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