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averyminya, do gaming w How are you all playing these insanely complex games?

The game does not explain any of this. I went to watch a tutorial online to try and wrap my head around all of this. The first tutorial just assumed you knew a bunch of stuff already. The second one I found was great but it was 1.5 hours long. There is no in-game tutorial I could find.

Why do you need to know? Just pick one and go with it!

Deep Rock Galactic

I haven’t played much but, it’s not complicated? There’s a main lobby where you select a quest, then you go on it. It generally involved following a path and gathering/dropping off stuff with some fighting in between.

Overwatch

This one is just anticipating other people’s movement on a map, which can be chaotic but I don’t really think it’s complicated? Honestly if you’re having issues just play Paladins instead I would stick by 1 or 2 teammates and just focus on staying with them no matter what. Over time you’ll learn what works and doesn’t work.

Destiny

Now THIS one is complicated bullshit. lol

cheesymoonshadow,
@cheesymoonshadow@lemmings.world avatar

I’m a casual gamer and I used to play Overwatch. There’s always the practice range or training room, I forget what it’s called. But what really got me learning all the characters was playing Mystery Heroes over and over.

exponential_wizard,

As with any competitive game, in overwatch you are expected by other players to understand complex strategies that have evolved over time, which can be stressful for a newcomer.

It doesn’t help that many players who don’t understand the Meta aren’t afraid to chime in. Standing in front of you holding up my shield isn’t my job, learn how to use cover fool.

frank,

Dan Olson has a good video on this topic. It’s tough to get into some larger player base competitive games

m.youtube.com/watch?v=BKP1I7IocYU

helenslunch,
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

Rocket League has a really great ranking system that ensures that I’m always playing with members of a similar skill level, but also always challenging myself to move up the ranks.

I really wanted to like BattleBit but couldn’t be bothered to grind to get the better weapons while constantly being slaughtered by much more experienced players with much better equipment.

cheesymoonshadow, do gaming w Weekly “What are you playing” Thread || Week of November 19th
@cheesymoonshadow@lemmings.world avatar

I’ve been trying to play Guardians of the Galaxy but have been too busy with work and school since September. I only recently saw the movie based on a friend’s recommendation, and I loved it. Thought it would make a fun RPG, and sure enough there was already one, and it was on sale when I looked so I snagged it. Maybe I’ll finish it someday.

Overzeetop, do gaming w How are you all playing these insanely complex games?

Yeah, I’m with you and it’s keeping me from really starting a new game. I got back into gaming with Elite Dangerous and got a kick out of the hours of offline research (because the in-game tools were fucking terrible when they even existed). It took me a while to get past the cool graphics and flight, but it got boring and tedious managing stuff. I failed to start Witcher 3 twice before just diving in and deciding I was going to not figure out anything and just play. It’s a far more forgiving system than most, and the gameplay benefits from it (to the suffering of realism).

While I enjoy the games, I loathe the min-max and inventory management necessary in most games. That’s not technically necessary if you spend a couple hundred hours perfecting technique. While that’s less than a month for a full time gamer, it’s about 5 years of play time in my life, so I end up looking up some obscure bit on line and chasing crafting for no good reason except to make my gaming time no fun. As a result, most of my SteamDeck time has been on simple arcade shooters and a couple of card-combat games. It’s frustrating to know there are good games out there if I just had 20-30 hours to get into them, and also knowing that I’ll have 20-30 hours free on a regular basis only when I retire some day. I guess my nursing home days will have lots of content, so I’ve got that going for me.

Squirrel, do gaming w Weekly “What are you playing” Thread || Week of November 19th
@Squirrel@thelemmy.club avatar

Divinity: Original Sin 2 with my wife. A holiday break cut off our first game at the end of act 2, so I hope we make it through this time.

Soulstone Survivors by my lonesome. I’m on a bullet heaven binge, and this one seems pretty good.

limeaide,

Recently started my first play through. Enjoy!

WeLoveCastingSpellz, do gaming w How are you all playing these insanely complex games?

I already was a dnd fan so I understood how character creation worked but still spent a good one and a half hour in the character creator. This is something I enjoy though.

helenslunch,
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

Wow!

Glide, do gaming w How are you all playing these insanely complex games?

BG3 is a unique example in that its built in a system many players already know and understand, AND the whole thing is so watered down that you can absolutely just wing it with a rudimentary understanding of how things function and be fine. You don’t need to min/max to enjoy the game, and if it’s too hard there are multiple difficulty levels. It’s fine to hit explorer difficulty pick a class for RP and just enjoy the game. The “GaMeR” police aren’t going to kick down your door.

The answer to the wider question is: No, I don’t. I like learning systems and I’ve practiced learning systems very rapidly. I’ve been quickly learning new systems for some 20+ years, so by now, I am just good at it. I do not spend any real length of time researching how to play these games; I load in, read and absorb what’s in front of me, and try thngs. Things that don’t work, I throw out, and I try new things. After a few iterations of this, if I am still heavily struggling I may Google some build repository so I can glance over some ideas of what other suggest work and then incorporate those ideas into my own setup, but even then, that practice is preserved for more competitive games. Games like BG3, Deep Rock, Warframe, Darktide, Inkbound, and Cassette Beasts, just to name some I’ve played in the last couple months, I’ll never look up how others build and play. This is in part because I don’t need to, and in part because crafting my own builds and finding my own solutions is a large part of the fun for me.

Die4Ever, (edited ) do cerevant w On how the Threadiverse should work
@Die4Ever@programming.dev avatar

randomly found this post, but this is exactly what I do with lemmy.mods4ever.com

only my admin user is on there and it isn’t subscribed to any remote communities, Lemmy is barely using any resources on my server it’s basically free

I’ve actually thought about running 2 separate instances like lemmyusers.mods4ever.com and lemmycommunities.mods4ever.com or something like that

Titan, do gaming w How are you all playing these insanely complex games?

No need to watch tutorials on how to create a character brother. Figuring things out as you play is the fun part

Klajan, do gaming w Weekly “What are you playing” Thread || Week of November 19th

I picked up Starsector again this weekend and having a blast with a modded playthrough.

Magnus, do gaming w How are you all playing these insanely complex games?

Wing it, discovering that I’ve made a massive mistake is part of the fun, I don’t want to spoil any game with let’s plays. I don’t try to get the most optimal build I’m just looking to have fun. I use what ever gun I enjoy the most in borderlands, yeah when it starts to feel weak I swap but I’m not going to use a gun I hate because it does two more damage that one I love.

Quexotic, do gaming w How are you all playing these insanely complex games?

I have been playing with another person and we were both confused. just guessed my way through it.

Pxtl, do gaming w How are you all playing these insanely complex games?
@Pxtl@lemmy.ca avatar

Deep Rock is good at letting you ignore what you don’t care about. I’ve never needed a wiki for it. It’s just fun and silly co op action, with massive complexity mostly about trivial things.

jumbodumbo, do gaming w How are you all playing these insanely complex games?

Use your thinkbox

helenslunch,
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

Thanks dumbo

limeaide, do gaming w How are you all playing these insanely complex games?

I recently started playing Divinity Original Sin 2, and I went through this problem as well until I changed the way I approached the game.

I just let go of trying to make the most optimized decisions and instead just make the decision I, or my character would make (if I’m role playing).

I just realized that no matter what decision I make, it will still lead me to finish the game. If I really want to, later I can go back and play it again to see more of the game. Only if I like my first play-through though.

helenslunch,
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

Good stuff, thanks!

potterman28wxcv, do gaming w How are you all playing these insanely complex games?

For a first time don’t try to get the strongest character possible. It’s a time sink to do that. Usually the main campaign of games are beatable even if you screw up something. The worst that can happen is you backtracking a bit and spending time to level up before doing the next quest.

When you played the game once and got used to the mechanics you can make a 2nd char and plan it more deeply ahead if you wish. You know what mechanics you like so the prospect of finding what to invest in what is worth etc… becomes more streamlined. But you don’t have to. You can just be happy to have finished the game and call it a day.

That’s what I did for Diablo 4. After the main campaign I did not feel like venturing more into the game or making another character so I started playing another game. If you really want to 100% a game it does require a ton of time and planning but you don’t have to

ursakhiin,

This. For bg3 I started by looking up a simple question around class complexity. Landed on fighter for my first class and then only looked up specific questions I had about how something works if I wanted to consider it.

That was only to verify I understood what it was saying it did correctly.

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