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TassieTosser, do gaming w Does an MMO with no way to turn money into power exist?

FFXIV.

Not sure about ESO and SWTOR. I know WoW has the token market that technically counts as turning money into power by selling tokens and buying clears.

ericbomb,

Hmm these look sus:

store.finalfantasyxiv.com/ffxivstore/en-us/…/804 store.finalfantasyxiv.com/ffxivstore/en-us/…/822 store.finalfantasyxiv.com/ffxivstore/en-us/…/809

Maybe they’re not so popular, or in context not worth that much, but levels and money usually are no-nos for me.

dewin,

Replying 19 hours later but…

Yes, FF14 does have options to skip story or (most) character levels. They are, like others have stated, primarily targeted towards players who are levelling alts (which the game by nature doesn’t really need as much).

FF14’s story is amazing, but it’s long and not necessarily something you want to repeat.

And while this is effectively buying levels, FF14 is not designed as a pay-to-win game. The amount of experience required to reach maximum level is balanced for someone who is playing the game legitimately – unlike P2W games where requirements are artificially inflated to encourage you to spend money. You will get most or all of the experience you need to hit max level just from following the storyline and a moderate amount of side quests (on one class anyways.)

That said, many FF14 players say that fashion is the true endgame… and there are a lot of nice-looking items on the store. So I suppose it depends on what your definition of “winning” is. 🙃

shakesbeare,
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As others have said, the story skips are kinda awful.

Plus, I gotta say that it doesn’t really make a difference. They don’t give anyone an advantage over anyone else and don’t impact the way you experience the game at all. If you don’t like them, just don’t buy them.

At worst, you’ll run into some guys who are really bad because they skipped a huge portion of the game to get to modern content. But it doesn’t give them any edge over you by any means.

Again, I can’t stress enough how these affect other players 0%.

HatchetHaro,
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Some of the best gear in ESO come from their paid DLCs and Chapters. Technically locked behind a paywall, but you’ll still have to farm the gear yourself.

The microtransactions themselves only offer cosmetics, consumables (that aren’t more powerful than the craftable options), and utility stuff (race-change tokens, and skipping some of the skillpoint grind).

There is a player market for exchanging Crowns (microtransaction currency) for gold, and another player market for buying raid clears with gold. Raiding (called Trials) offer some of the best PvE gear. You don’t need to buy clears if you’re skilled enough to run those Trials and can find groups to do it with you.

If you just want to enjoy the game without worrying about min-maxing your build, all the base-game and craftable options will do you just fine.

thekerker, do gaming w Gaming often fetishises the new but many great things exist in the past, so let's strap into our time machines and talk about our favourite games released before say 2010?
@thekerker@beehaw.org avatar
  • Doom and Doom II: Hell on Earth
  • Choplifter
  • Duke Nukem 3D
  • X-Wing
  • Quake III Arena
  • MechWarrior
  • GoldenEye 007
  • Rogue Squadron
  • Shadows of the Empire
  • Metal Gear Solid
  • Siphon Filter
  • Ein Händer
  • Tom Clancy’s Splinter Cell
  • Colony Wars
  • Colony Wars II: Vengeance
  • Counter-Strike
  • Half-Life
  • Oni
  • Command & Conquer: Red Alert
  • Total Annihilation
  • Dune 2000
  • Star Control III
  • Delta Force
  • Deus Ex

So many great games from my childhood.

TheSkoomaCat,
@TheSkoomaCat@beehaw.org avatar

Quake III but no I or II? I see you’ve got DOOM on your list, I’m curious, did you not like the first two quake games or just didn’t play them? Otherwise you’ve got my list down pat (plus a few extras).

thekerker,
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Nope, I only ever played Quake III Arena.

abir_vandergriff, do gaming w Best sub-20 hour games?

Depending on your puzzle solving abilities, Outer Wilds (not Outer Worlds!) should only take around 15-20 hours.

Extra bonus, it can be played in very short sessions very easily and has a great in-game log of events in case you have to put it down for a little while.

CraigeryTheKid,

I just want to say that I also keep hearing about this game, but then can’t remember which one strangers told me to play.

abir_vandergriff,

Oh man, it’s so good. It’s my favorite game in recent memory and it’s only competition is probably Hollow Knight.

Don’t look anything up, this game is super easy to spoil because of the way the exploratory puzzles are set up.

lvl13charlatan, do gaming w Best sub-20 hour games?

Undertale and Untitled Goose Game though the latter isn’t very story oriented.

bergkoenig, do piracy w Gary Bowser is out of jail after being sued by Nintendo and would be an interesting AMA here

So long, Gay Bowser!

Segab, do gaming w Best sub-20 hour games?

I’m usually way more into short arcadey yet narrative games like Hotline Miami, but based on your list I’d wholeheartedly recommend What Remains of Edith Finch. It’s a bunch of very short story vignettes, so even if you only have 30 minutes you know you’ll complete one.

Night in the Woods might also interest you. I would always play one in-game day (which is about 1 hour each) to relax before going to bed.

CatBusBand, do gaming w Best sub-20 hour games?

Have you tried What Remains of Edith Finch? It’s a good story heavy game that’s pretty short. Return of the Obra Dinn is a deduction puzzle game that can be done in short sessions. Celeste is also good for short sessions if platformers are more of your thing.

missquote, do gaming w Does an MMO with no way to turn money into power exist?
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Final Fantasy XIV would fit the bill. The cash shop only has cosmetics, and you can pay to add more retainers (basically bank space), but in terms of actual gold buying or power upgrades, none of that exists.

ericbomb,

Hmm these look sus:

store.finalfantasyxiv.com/ffxivstore/en-us/…/804store.finalfantasyxiv.com/ffxivstore/en-us/…/822store.finalfantasyxiv.com/ffxivstore/en-us/…/809

Maybe they’re not so popular, or in context not worth that much, but levels and money usually are no-nos for me. Because the one appears to be straight up levels and gil.

Naate,
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Yeah, they’re a skip to endgame content. But they’re not any kind of “instant win.”

The couple types of pvp aren’t tied to your character level, and the most difficult raid content is best run with a group that you practice with. If you’ve never played, simply grabbing the game and one of those packages isn’t going to give you an immediate edge.

XIV is sort of a single player game with a bunch of coop boss fights.

And, not to be cliche, but you can play through the entire first two arcs (A Realm Reborn and Heavensward) completely free, with no real limitations. The only things locked out of the free tier are the more social aspects, and any content above level 60. A handful of jobs are locked, but there is a ridiculous amount of content available for free.

I’ve played a few other mmos and hated them all. XIV is something weirdly different. And the overwhelming majority of the community is chill and friendly.

TassieTosser,

I’d argue that if you never played, then getting one of those packages would actually make you play worse than someone who’s played from the start.

Templa,

I play FFXIV since 2014 and I honestly wouldn’t recommend anyone to buy this. You’re just paying to not play the game and skip the main quest (which locks up a bunch of content behind it).

liminis,

Worth actively recommending against, even.

MacaroniLove,
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Leveling up in Final Fantasy XIV is easy. Just play the story and you’ll reach max level by the time you finish it.

These items are intended for players who create an alt and who wish to skip most of the stury if they already played it.

Also reaching max level is kind of where the game begins (raids, dungeons, gearing up, etc).

Also 500,000 Gil is pocket change…

liminis,

Would disagree it’s where the game begins, given how story-directed it is. FFXIV is, to me, a single-player JRPG in the shell of MMO combat with a huge amount of multiplayer content. (Especially with the fulfilment of duty support allowing you to do MSQ dungeons with bots.)

forbiddenlake,
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Also: the included gil is a small amount. It's meant to replace the gil you'd earn from doing the story quests.

ystael, do gaming w Souls Game Recommendation?

If you are looking for “learn fight, get better, epic win” without much of a death penalty, maybe look at Monster Hunter?

It’s not the same as a Souls game - not much world exploration, not much plot, zero gothiness - but it is 3D Fantasy Boss Fights: The Game. With 14 genuinely different weapon classes to choose from.

And if you faint three times and fail the quest, all you’ve lost are the consumables you spent on the attempt. (If you give up early and bail, you haven’t even lost that.)

all-knight-party, do gaming w Best sub-20 hour games?
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If you're cool with visual novels, Doki Doki Literature Club is an incredibly interesting game, not very long. It really stuck with me.

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  • Plus_a_Grain_of_Salt,

    Hey Op don’t play it in front of the kids, you’ll thank me later.

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  • Plus_a_Grain_of_Salt,

    See, you get my worry. The tension’s not bad, just a lot for the kids.

    Crankpork, do gaming w Best sub-20 hour games?

    Journey is a game you could easily finish in one sitting. Short but sweet, and very easy to get swept up in the atmosphere.

    Segnis, do gaming w Does an MMO with no way to turn money into power exist?

    If you’re interested in games that aren’t MMORPGs, Path of Exile fits your criteria for monetization. You can only purchase cosmetics and bank storage upgrades. It’s an online ARPG but it’s mostly single player.

    etrotta,

    It is pretty much unplayable without the bank storage upgrades though. Given the amount of time they can save you, you may as well say that they are power.

    any1th3r3, do gaming w Best sub-20 hour games?

    Story-heavy: Uncharted series (between 10 and 16 hours per game), Hellblade (around 8 hours) and - if you can spare another 10 hours or so and Action RPGs are your thing - Nier Automata is really worth it (around 30 hours).
    Gris was impactful enough for me that I’ll mention it here, since it was super short (4 hours at most).

    TheKracken, do gaming w Best sub-20 hour games?

    Ori and the blind forest is a great platformer that is about 8-10 hours long.

    Donut County is a fun little game that takes about 5 hours or less.

    Axiom Verge (and 2) is a neat Metroid like game that is around 15 hrs.

    karbonkel, do gaming w Why I Probably Hate your Favorite Video Game's "Awesome Story" (an incomplete list)

    Tell me your parents never read stories to you, without telling me your parents never read stories to you.

    NuPNuA,

    I was thinking first year media studies at uni.

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