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baltakatei, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

Most problems people have with Linux, I think, come from trying to be Linux power users from the start by performing very advanced techniques beyond their time and patience: dual booting multiple operating systems (so they don’t have to buy Linux-dedicated hardware), using any graphics card (the latest and greatest GPUs are all closed source and developers who work on Linux do so because they despise closed source), using the least expensive hardware (which are typically closed source and buggy with anything except Windows), and emulating Windows apps so they don’t have to learn new workflows or abandon their favorite games (technically, Proton with Steam allows Windows games like FFXIV to be played, but it’s a neverending journey to get it working and keeping it working.

If you switch to Linux, accept that for a smooth experience you’ll have to pay more than you would for a Windows machine (e.g. System76, Framework) And if you want graphics card support for your emulated Windows games on Steam, you’re going to have to use the specific flavor of Linux the manufacturer supports.

That said, if you value free/libre open source software, then making the switch from Windows is totally worth it.

BreadstickNinja,

Can you elaborate on the incompatibility of the newest GPUs? It looks like Nvidia publishes a Linux driver for the Blackwell series and there are a number of AI applications (like supporting Triton and pysam-based methods) which seem harder to get working on Windows than on Linux.

I’m considering switching over but I hear mixed things about Nvidia support. Some people seem to say it’s a pain to get the drivers working and others seem to think that’s an issue that’s been resolved. Not sure what to think in terms of how difficult the switch would be.

dogs0n,

I’m not sure about the specific AI apps you mention, but from my personal experience the “AMD works way better than Nvidia on Linux” mindset is no longer a thing.

When I upgraded to a new gpu a few years ago, I first got an AMD gpu because of that mindset that was all over the internet (I believed them), but for the life of me I couldn’t get games to run properly with it. A week later I traded it for an Nvidia card and it just works.

I do suffer from system wake from sleep issues that I think are the nvidia drivers fault, but atleast I can play games if I decide to.

BreadstickNinja,

Can I ask what distro you’re running? Some of the gaming-focused ones like Bazzite still seem to gather some comments about working better with AMD, though it seems like there are some workarounds. I am resolved to leave Microsoft behind completely at the W11 switch so I’m trying to get my bearings!

dogs0n,

Of course, I run EndeavourOS. My guess is that nowadays it doesn’t matter if you run amd or nvidia (likely won’t run into problems with either).

Natanox,
@Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

but from my personal experience the “AMD works way better than Nvidia on Linux” mindset is no longer a thing.

Oh my god it absolutely is, and until NVK becomes the standard everywhere it will most likely stay that way. That shit breaks so often on a laptop I gonna sell soon, on my families’ computers and apparently also in computers from people in my local hackerspace. Some distros just managed to work around those drivers’ problems really well, sometimes by including them from the start of creating their own well-working packages (like Arch’s nvidia-dkms).

Mildren,

I think this may be out of date now, dual booting is relatively simple to set up and there are a wealth of tutorials online for it, setting up a graphics card (nvidia) was a breeze, and for the wide majority of games in my library (I play both indie and AAA), I’ve had very few issues running native, and most that haven’t ran out of the box have guides posted on protondb.com, most are up and running in 5 mins.

DimFisher,
@DimFisher@lemmy.world avatar

Very accurate comment!

hperrin,

New GPUs don’t work on Linux? Where did you get that idea from?

the_riviera_kid,

I had the same question, my 6750xt works just fine and it’s fairly new.

Sabata11792,

Got a 7900xtx a few days ago and worked out of the box. Had to update the drivers after install but that took 5 minutes.

TanteRegenbogen,

Many Linux distros are not very user friendly and intuitive when it comes to normal users with two left hands when it comes to PCs. Lots of Linux power users need to get off of their high horse and realize this. If I had some issues, my parents definitely will.

Rainbowblite,

You are right about trying to be power users. I switched to Linux recently and definitely struggled with my sudden reduction is understanding. I got everything I needed for gaming setup up in a few hours. Then I tried to set up some productivity workflows and slammed into a brick wall of my own ignorance. I definitely considered just going back to Windows.

Natanox,
@Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

It’s already really good to hear you got gaming set up so quickly. A lot of people struggle with that as well either because team green (Nvidia) is involved since their drivers are utter garbage, or due to trying Linux on an older machine that doesn’t support Vulkan (which is a necessity if you want Proton to just work).

The value of getting a perfectly supported machine from a Linux vendor like System76, Tuxedo, Slimbook, StarLabs, NovaCustom etc. can’t be understated. Even more so since you also buy their customer support with it. We must not forget that, even though Linux runs on basically anything, most consumer devices are first-and-foremost Windows machines.

cupcakezealot, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

too late already did switch to linux :3

DjMeas, do gaming w Weekly “What are you playing” Thread || Week of April 6th

I randomly decided to play a round of Tetris in Puyo Puyo Tetris 2 and ended up playing my best game ever of 715 lines with 54 minutes of play before losing. It was supposed to just be a quick 15 minute session but turned into something quite chaotic and fun!

SolidShake, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

yeah i need star citizen, ableton, fl studio, premier, photoshop and more before i can dedicate a jump to linux

WhyJiffie,

don’t forget that LTSC is also a solution, you don’t have to give in to 11

SolidShake,

There’s nothing wrong with windows 11 imo

desktop_user,

it’s a death by a thousand cuts situation, more friction to use a local account, less convenience in accessing rarely used settings (most recently I was trying to help someone change a setting located in the advanced power management control panel thing), more pressure to use edge, continuing to shove one-drive down our throats, copilot, implementing features that knowingly make third party tools work significanly less well without proper customization to fix it, weirdness around Multi-Display setups on laptops, the maps app getting worse at giving directions.

SolidShake,

So… in my experience edge runs better than all other browsers with the ability to mute individual tabs without an addon. I disabled copilot. I disabled one drive and use local storage only. All settings can be accessed by just typing what you want in the search bar. If you need advanced settings for anything you just click the button that says “advanced settings” To me it’s fairly simple, but it’s all I’ve ever used. My Mac knowledge is minimal and my Linux knowledge is also minimal, so for me both those OS’s are difficult to use and navigate. I also like the ability to double click something to install it and not have to open a command box and do child coding just to use something.

So I get what your saying. If I had Linux only for the last 30 years I would also find windows to be confusing and stupid.

WhyJiffie,

I had windows for 20 years. enough is enough. I’ll never accept all the bullshit of 11. but if you use edge, I see you have different values, like privacy is not really important to you

SolidShake,

What privacy would I need man? I’m not on some super secret server making plans for global domination lol.

WhyJiffie,

“super secret server” what, we are talking in discord servers now?

privacy is not for “super secret” people. it is for everyone who does not mindlessly throw it away.

SolidShake,

So you couldn’t just answer the question? What do I need security from? I don’t input credit card information. So I generally want to know

WhyJiffie,

I’m not talking about credit card information. I’m talking about all the kinds of commercial data mining that is happening basically all over the internet. Personally, I’m sick of it. and while firefox has problems, anything chromium based won’t even try to project your privacy, to the contrary, especially edge. if you like having all your digital and a lot of irl activities collected in data broker databases for profiling, targeted ads, personalized costs and whatnot, then edge is the ideal browser for you.

SolidShake,

I think you might be paranoid a little bit.

julysfire, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?
@julysfire@lemmy.world avatar

Made the jump to Linux. No issues so far, very happy with the switch

lka1988, (edited ) do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

I’ve been daily-driving Linux Mint (LMDE 6) on my Thinkpad T14 G1 for almost a year now. At this point, that laptop is easily the most dependable machine I’ve ever had. My gaming PC is the last remaining Windows machine in my house. Recently I’ve been making sure everything is backed up (Syncthing is great for this) and finding alternatives for programs that don’t have a Linux version.

My plan is to create images of both my SSDs (500GB & 2TB, both NTFS 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️) onto a 4TB hard drive. Then start from scratch, migrating data from the images (Steam games, config files, personal documents I may have missed, etc) when/if I need it.

csm10495, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?
@csm10495@sh.itjust.works avatar

If ya want to not be plugged into the internet, or use new external media, ya can probably run it safely forever.

tacosplease,

That’s my plan so far. I just use it for emulators anyway.

EndlessNightmare, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

I have 11, so not directly affected. But with “no more security updates” being the only real reason one needs to change, the obvious question here is if there is 3rd party software that can protect a Windows 10 system?

I remember when anti-virus software was in common use.

MDCCCLV,

It should be easy to get updates with a little hacky help, they’ll be available on the long term support schedule.

lka1988,

Windows 10 LTSC gets updates for a while longer. I forget the exact number, but I wanna say it goes into the 2030s?

LockheedTheDragon, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

I’m going to move over to Mint on my laptop, it’s older but still working great after I swapped an SSD drive in. Biggest issue is backing up the laptop before installing Linux. I have another computer I plan on duel boot with Windows 10 so I have access if I need windows for certain programs. I have no control over my work computer so Windows 11 there.

And unless one of my brothers steps up and buys our Dad a Windows 11 computer (I bought the Windows 10 computer, which is why it was so cheap it can’t take 11. 😆 ) since I’m his tech support if my brothers don’t step up he is going to Linux. No matter what I’m going to have to listen to him complain about how it is different so it will be a good time to move to Linux. Probably a version that tries to mimic Windows.

Adulated_Aspersion, do games w I really need these games ported to Steam. What do y'all have on your lists?

Mercenaries / 2

eezeebee, do gaming w Weekly “What are you playing” Thread || Week of April 6th
@eezeebee@lemmy.ca avatar

Dark Souls 2, again. I’m helping a new player and the really bad co-op mechanics might be enough to push me to try out some mods like seamless co-op and the lighting engine which looks gorgeous.

Dome Keeper. I didn’t realize it was made in Godot which is neat and encouraging to see. I really like the gameplay loop and graphics and look forward to unlocking more things to shake it up.

New Super Lucky’s Tale. The burrow mechanic was pretty fun. While the game wasn’t very challenging it was still a good playthrough and visually strong. The best part was the bonus world at the end where you really get to let the abilities rip, especially in combat. I wish there were more enemies around in the rest of the game because the way you can chain together attacks and create a “flow” was fun and seriously under-utilized.

MoistHoagie,

I’ve been playing with the seamless co-op mod with a friend on Dark Souls III and it is the best way to play in my opinion. Same goes for Elden Ring. No way I would have played through 5 times with the built in co-op.

kerrigan778, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

What does Bill Gates have to do with this, he hasn’t been directly involved in Microsoft in 17 years? He hasn’t even been on the board for 5 years.

Kobie123, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

Dual booting with EndeavourOS now. Once i know i can repeat my workflow on it, i’ll switch over for good.

pycorax, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

Unpopular opinion but I’m just using 11. I deal with enough problems with Linux at work and as hard as it is to believe, Windows just work and fits my workflow too well. Linux works great on my Steam Deck but the occasional weird quirks it has with certain games/launchers means I can’t use it as my main gaming platform, it’s only fine on the Deck because it has advantages for the form factor.

novacomets,

All games work in 11. You will get the best picture quality for graphics on 11. More DX9 games work in 11 than worked in 10. Path tracing is best on 11. I have some games that are DVD installs, no game store launcher.

There are different Linux programs that address most Windows issues but not all. With Windows, you can install Win 11, install GPU driver, and start playing games. I do avoid using Steam due to their extortion, so eventually I find games that can’t run on Linux.

gnuplusmatt,

Windows 11 has better image quality? I’m sorry what?

AvailableFill74, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

Linux has some problems that I just can never find answers for.

#1. Can’t do 4k 340hz on my display port 1.4 cable. Even though I can on windows and Mac. In Linux the option is there with the nvidia driver, but the screen goes black anytime I try to use it. No solution.

#2. Ubiconnect won’t work with Ann 1800 even though it’s good on proton.db and others are reporting it works great, I was never ever able to get it working or find reliable steps to get it working.

It’s a needle in a haystack trying to find fixes for things like this. Linux offers a lot, but still doesn’t offer the most important thing ease of fixing problems quickly so you can just do what you want to do.

Run a game and work at the native resolution.

SL3wvmnas,

Yea thats how my spouses laptop ended up with fedora and our main/gaming PC ended up with Nobara. For some reason certain distros and certain configurations do not go well with each other.

TanteRegenbogen,

To point 1.: WTF?

Sabata11792,

#1. Can’t do 4k 340hz on my display port 1.4 cable. Even though I can on windows and Mac. In Linux the option is there with the nvidia driver, but the screen goes black anytime I try to use it. No solution.

I had a similar issue on my 1080ti, I fixed it by setting Adaptive Sync to Never in my display settings.

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