I’ve played a fair amount of both but to be fair never competitively. Like for example I played tons of Warcraft 2 and 3 with friends at LAN parties. But these days I’m more likely to be drawn to a single player turn based game like XCOM, Civ, or FF Tactics style games.
For those that want an RTS game that doesn’t require a high APM, I’d recommend Supreme Commander Forged Alliance (FAF) and the Sins of a Solar Empire Games (which requires an even lower APM).
FAF absolutely benefits from action spam, to the point where it breaks the game balance.
T1 assault bots lose to T1 tanks, and they are supposed to because they are half the price and much quicker to build. You can dance them around if you click enough and they will dodge the tank shells… a few micro’d bots can then defeat 10s of tanks. That swing in mass efficiency is already enough to decide the game on maps smaller than 20km.
RTS will always benefit from intensive micro because time is another resource. Doing more actions, assuming they are of positivity utility, gives an advantage over an opponent who does not.
I like the reactiveness of RTS, but if they can somehow negate the need to be “FAST” about it, I’d enjoy it more. It’s the eternal struggle of, if pressing a button does a good thing, how do you avoid a meta that involves hitting 8 buttons a second.
Something that could have potential is putting an in-game “communications limit” that limits/punishes you for enacting too many Actions Per Minute, and encourages you to find ways to delegate broad tasks to your AI units. eg: “Please make a base at this spot, focused on building Archers”
I mostly play strategy games for enjoyment - and against the PC - so for me the slow pace of turn-based is perfect. I don’t like to be stressed when I’m playing something to relax. That’s why Civ is my go-to when I’m in the mood.
It doesn’t help that I also don’t have the hands or brain to juggle everything in an RTS. I’ve tried several and they look fun at a glance, but at the end of the day I can’t put out adequate APM to actually have fun with them.
In dark souls 2 the pursuer killed me so many times I almost quit. I don’t know what it was about that fight but I could not beat the fella.
Also in dark souls 1 I got killed by Havel the rock so many times and once I killed him and found his armour it held a special place in my heart. I’d try to wear as much of it as I could without fat rolling. Which usually left me wearing no ar in some slots.
I played the crap out of the OG Warcraft games, and thought online play would be fun, but I realized that I play at far too chill of a pace to stand a chance, but strictly turn based tactics games are teeth-grindingly slow, and even if I’m enjoying them, I still eventually get bored and quit.
The new Terminator RTS can be pretty difficult but you can just smack space to pause and asses the situation, issue orders, and then in pause. It’s got a little jank to it but it’s a really good RTS with some survival/scavenging aspects and some branching objectives.
Turn-based all the way for me. I need time to think about my moves!
I want to love RTS games, but I just don’t have the executive function skills needed to prioritise tasks and make decisions fast enough to do well. Single player against CPU is sometimes doable if there’s an easy mode or cheats, but online multiplayer is just impossible.
A bit of both! RTS games are fun as practice-repeat challenges when I have enough free time to game while I have a bit of energy. Turn based are good any time. :)
I like both, but as others have said, the apm focus in RTS games really puts a cap on my enjoyment of the genre. In theory, I should love the genre, and I usually like the single player Campaigns or skirmishes against bots, but as soon as apm becomes a significant factor, I lose interest. Maybe I should learn some with a pause function, so I can see how I feel about those.
I like both, but from this perspective my favourite so far has been BSG: Deadlock, with its simultanious turns. It lets you think and skips the gimicks of normal turn-based games.
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