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slavistapl, do zapytajszmer w Jaką wolnościową alternatywę do Twitcha polecicie do robienia streamów?

Testowałem PeerTube’a do streamów, mogę polecić – działa troche jak YT. Owncast z kolei wymaga samohostowania, co może odstraszać potencjalnych “uchodźców” z Twitcha (niemniej nie znaczy to, że Owncast nie jest godny polecenia). Kazdy wybierze to, co lepsze dla niego.

lysy,

A Peertube nie wymaga samohostowania? To chyba też jest po prostu oprogramowanie, które ktoś musi odpalić ;? Chyba, że znasz jakąś fajną instancję :P

slavistapl,

Ja korzystam z tube.pol.social. Streamy działają, ale od dłuższego czasu coś jest nie tak z okienkiem czatu (nie ładuje się ono).

TrustedTyrant, do gaming w Controller for ShieldTV and AppleTV

8bitdo makes some good controllers that offer better value than the first party ones. I have the older sn30pro+ and while I would like a pro 2 mine still works so I’m not in any rush to buy it.

endeavor,

Seconding 8bitdo. I have the new 2c. For 20 bucks you get a controller that shitty brands like ms, razer and logitech charge you 250 for.

arrowMace, do games w What are some good cooperative shooters? Hidden gems?

Tiny Tina’s Wonderlands is a Borderlands spinoff shooter/RPG that’s co-op and happens to be free to claim on Epic games store this week. I haven’t played it yet but really enjoyed the Tiny Tina DLC for Borderlands 2.

kami, do gaming w It's adorable

Tbf PlayStation had all of them back then

Brunbrun6766,
@Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world avatar

So did nintendo with the 64

kami,

Right!

grue,
Venator,

It has more red than the other colours though.

Tattorack,
@Tattorack@lemmy.world avatar

They also had an opening jingle that sounded like stepping through a portal to an exotic dimension.

Venator,

That’s probably because Sega still had blue at the time.

swordgeek, do games w What games are just objective masterpieces?
  • Portal 1/2 of course.
  • Grim Fandango. (Flawed yes, but absolutely a masterpiece)
  • Psychonauts.
  • Fallout New Vegas.
  • System Shock (the original).
  • The Longest Journey.
  • Mass Effect. Maybe.
fpslem,

Portal 1 & 2 were the first to my mind as well. I really like this list, actually.

swordgeek,

Glad to hear it.

I’m tempted to add Red Dead Redemption 2 to the list, but it’s too new for me to decide yet.

I think it belongs. It was the greatest storytelling game I’ve played in a decade or more.

mohab, do games w What games are just objective masterpieces?

Well, none because favorites are super subjective, but I'll shout out my favorites because no one else did:

  1. The Wonderful 101
  2. Bayonetta
  3. Ninja Gaiden II
  4. God Hand
  5. Viewtiful Joe
  6. Catherine
  7. Gravity Rush
  8. Guilty Gear XX Accent Core Plus R
  9. Under Night In-Birth II Sys:Celes
  10. Persona 4 Arena Ultimax
  11. Crimzon Clover: World EXplosion
  12. Ketsui: Kizuna Jigoku Tachi
Krauerking,

Catherine deserves to be on someone’s list so glad you have it and Gravity rush is a good choice cause it was a fun use of mechanics.

ZeroHora, do games w What games are just objective masterpieces?
@ZeroHora@lemmy.ml avatar
  • Chrono Trigger
  • Disco Elysium
  • Sekiro
  • Zelda Ocarina of Time
  • Bioshock
  • Portal
  • Half Life
  • Nier Automata
  • Tetris

Flawed Masterpieces

  • Minecraft (surprising)
  • Dragon age Origins
  • Team Fortress 2
  • Fallout New Vegas
  • Dark Souls
  • Every Baldur’s Gate

Masterpiece in my heart: Terraria

Coelacanth,
@Coelacanth@feddit.nu avatar

Good list. I desperately wanted to put Dark Souls on my list, as the first blind playthrough of it was a magical experience. But I don’t think it’s correct, no matter how much I love it. Flawed masterpiece is about right.

darthelmet,

Yeah the souls games are something I like in spite of all of the things wrong with them. There is just so much jank and bizarre design decisions.

I kinda hate that all of the games that have tried to copy them have done so to a point of not critically evaluating everything in them. And then they have all the same flaws, but none of the unique charm that makes me look past them for FROM’s games.

jacksilver,

I’m always curious why people add things like Ocarina of Time to lists like these. While the game was revolutionary at the time, I don’t think it holds up particularly well nor succeeds where later zeldas fail.

To call it an objective masterpiece I feel like it has to be a game that someone picking up today would still enjoy and appreciate. Tetris and Portal for example hold up well even by today’s standards.

ZeroHora,
@ZeroHora@lemmy.ml avatar

The thing that not holds well in Ocarina of Time is the N64 controls and like what they supposed to do to overcome that?

jacksilver,

It’s probably me being pedantic, but for an “objective masterpiece” the game needs to stand on its own and not on its legacy. I just don’t think Ocarina of Time holds up to later zelda games in many aspects (although I do think the story and soundtrack do).

Generally I think the ps1 and N64 era just suffer from the transition to 3D. Graphically and gameplay wise many games suffered for being the first foray into 3D gaming and those challenges wouldn’t really be settled until the next generation.

tal, (edited ) do games w What games are just objective masterpieces?

Just out of curiosity, listing the games mentioned here as of this writing by their date of release:

Release Date Game
1980 Pac-Man
1985 The Oregon Trail (assuming widely-played 1985 game)
1985 Tetris
1986 Kid Icarus
1988 Mega Man 2
1988 Super Mario Brothers 3
1988 The Guardian Legend
1989 Abadox: The Deadly Inner War
1989 Ironsword: Wizards & Warriors II
1989 Monster Party
1989 Populous
1989 Sweet Home
1990 Dr. Mario
1990 Final Fantasy III
1991 Battletoads (assuming original game)
1991 The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
1992 Ecco the Dolphin
1992 Sonic the Hedgehog 2
1992 Super Mario Kart
1993 Dinopark Tycoon
1993 Doom
1993 Gauntlet IV
1993 Lufia & the Fortress of Doom (assuming first game)
1993 Mega Man X
1994 Donkey Kong Country
1994 Earthworm Jim
1994 Sonic & Knuckles
1994 Sonic the Hedgehog 3
1994 Super Metroid
1994 The Lion King
1995 Chrono Trigger
1997 Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
1997 Diablo
1997 Final Fantasy VII
1997 Mega Man X4
1997 Oddworld: Abe’s Oddysee
1997 Snowboard Kids
1998 Banjo-Kazooie
1998 Metal Gear Solid
1998 Sonic Adventure
1998 South Park
1998 StarCraft: Brood War
1999 Age of Empires II: The Age of Kings
1999 Heroes of Might and Magic III
1999 Planescape: Torment
1999 Quake III Arena
1999 RollerCoaster Tycoon
1999 Silent Hill
1999 Street Fighter III: 3rd Strike
1999 Sven Co-op
1999 Unreal Tournament
1999 Worms Armageddon
2000 Command & Conquer: Red Alert 2
2000 Diablo II
2000 Resident Evil CODE: Veronica
2000 SimCity 3000 Unlimited
2000 Tony Hawk Pro Skater 2
2001 Ace Combat 04: Shattered Skies
2001 Final Fantasy X
2001 Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty
2001 Shenmue II
2002 The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind
2003 Beyond Good & Evil
2003 Need for Speed: Underground
2003 Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
2004 Ace Combat 5: The Unsung War
2004 Champions of Norrath
2004 Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas
2004 Gran Turismo 4
2004 Half Life 2
2004 Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater
2004 The Legend of Zelda: The Minish Cap
2005 Champions: Return to Arms
2005 Psychonauts
2005 Shadow of the Colossus
2006 Ace Combat Zero: The Belkan War
2006 Ōkami
2007 BioShock
2007 Dark Souls
2007 Mass Effect
2007 Portal
2008 Clonk Rage
2008 Left 4 Dead
2008 Mirror’s Edge
2008 Super Smash Bros. Brawl
2009 Dragon Age: Origins
2009 Forza Motorsport 3
2009 Killing Floor
2009 Left 4 Dead 2
2009 Plants vs. Zombies
2009 Steins;Gate
2010 Battlefield: Bad Company 2
2010 Limbo
2010 Nier
2010 Planet Minigolf
2011 Bastion
2011 Portal 2
2011 Terraria
2011 The Binding of Isaac
2012 Hotline Miami
2012 The House in Fata Morgana
2012 Tokyo Jungle
2014 Forza Horizon 2
2014 LISA: The Painful
2015 Bloodborne
2015 Ori and the Blind Forest
2015 The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt
2015 Undertale
2016 Doom (2016)
2016 Kirby: Planet Robobot
2016 Stardew Valley
2016 The Witness
2016 Titanfall 2
2016 Tyranny
2017 Little Nightmares
2017 Mario Kart 8 Deluxe (for Deluxe version)
2017 Nier: Automata
2017 Night in the Woods
2017 Super Mario Odyssey
2017 The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
2018 Celeste
2018 Donut County
2018 Return of the Obra Dinn
2018 Rimworld
2018 Subnautica
2019 A Short Hike
2019 Disco Elysium
2019 Outer Wilds
2019 Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice
2019 Slay the Spire
2020 Cyberpunk 2077
2020 Factorio
2020 Hades
2021 Everhood: An Ineffable Tale of the Inexpressible Divine Moments of Truth
2021 Psychonauts 2
2022 Elden Ring
2022 Lil Gator Game
2023 Baldur’s Gate 3
2023 Dave the Diver
2024 Balatro
Skunk,
@Skunk@jlai.lu avatar

2025: Clair Obscur Expedition 33.

Even if the year is not finished, this game is such a perfect work of art on so many levels that it became the new favorite to me, and to plenty other players.

QueenMidna,

Going to have to disagree, especially when it comes to storytelling

Skunk, (edited )
@Skunk@jlai.lu avatar

What about it ?

The writing, the characters, the dialogues, the story, everything is new and perfectly done. It is pure art and something like 98% of the 3+ millions players would disagree with you.

But you must be part of that 2%, meh to each their own 🤷🏻‍♂️

thequickben,

I disagree with you. The story is amazingly written. Dialogue, character motivations, their fuck ups, everything is fantastic.

BlameTheAntifa,
noxypaws,

Tokyo Jungle, YES!

A game so sadly lost to time. My partner’s PS3 still has it installed, but no idea if the hard drive is still functional…

TheFriar,

Has seriously no one mentioned The Last of Us? That’s crazy.

I think the second should be included.

As well as red dead redemption 2.

The storytelling is just top tier. Better than literally almost all media made today.

AsslessChaps,

Rdr2 was the only game that I was actually emotionally tied to the characters. It was truly a masterpiece.

XM34,

Last of Us 1 was really good. But the second one was so bad, it kind of ruined the first one for me as well. And I wouldn’t call it masterpiece. Because for me a masterpiece shines in gameplay, narrative and atmosphere. The Last of Us’ gameplay serves its purpose, but there’s really nothing special here compared to e.g. Elden Ring, were story, atmosphere and gameplay are all pretty much perfect.

TheFriar,

How was the second one “so bad?” It had incredible narrative, more in depth gameplay, challenging and coherent themes, depth of storytelling, it took risks that a lot of people didn’t like, but you can’t say they were done poorly. They were just challenging for people. And that’s good. The same stories told with the same character arcs following the same hero’s journey is boring. TLOU2 challenged you with the characters making choices you wouldn’t, it challenged you with co placated character arcs that saw well-loved characters turn into the villains, while the villain of the story became the one to end the cycle of violence…it was incredible. That worldbuilding, the design, the voice acting, the mocap acting, the more varied fighting styles, the expansive world…I mean, shit, I really do want to know what you thought actually classified as “bad” about that game. It pissed people off. But that does not make it a bad game by any stretch of the imagination.

biofaust,

Missing Half-life (the first one). That game was the first one to feature scripted scenes during player interaction and it was mind-blowing. Plus, it had the most sophisticated story ever seen in an FPS before.

TechAnon,

1996: Duke Nukem 3D

mohab,

The only game I kinda like on this list is Okami.

SCmSTR, do games w What games are just objective masterpieces?

Okay, now do it all on a bell curve.

What’s the most absolute medium game, to which all other games are compared to, and if worse, fail, or are better and pass?

Coelacanth,
@Coelacanth@feddit.nu avatar

Oooooh I like that question. I feel like it would have to be some kind of Call of Duty, right? Some absolutely mediocre slop that still has enough mechanical satisfaction and mind-numbing explosion-and-cliché-filled story to keep you somewhat entertained, yet still remaining completely forgettable.

SCmSTR,

The McDonald’s of videogames.

Shardikprime,

Pong.

It’s that or tetris

weirdbeardgame,

Hell I’d make that a separate post!

LordGimp, do games w What games are just objective masterpieces?

Chromehounds was the greatest mech game on shitbox 360 and you can’t change my mind.

The sheer variety in player created metas was glorious to behold. Sure, you could play how the game encouraged you to play and hang your weapons in “normal” configurations. But you could also bury whole teams in indirect fire with a triple double from across the map. You could build a little punchy boi buggy with a dick piston, cockpit, wheels, and nothing else. You could even try to sweat the meta in the chicken leg howitzer or the turtle up in the armored crab.

The only limits were creativity and spacer availability lmfaooo

MintyAnt,

It’s pretty wack that we haven’t since had a game that captures many of the better elements of Chrome hounds.

Allero, do games w What games are just objective masterpieces?

Honestly, many of them you know full well, but that’s because yes, they are that good:

  • Minecraft
  • TES III Morrowind and TES V Skyrim
  • The Witcher 1 and 3
  • Deus Ex Human Revolution and Mankind Divided
  • Cyberpunk 2077
  • Dishonored 1 and 2
  • Warcraft III and World of Warcraft

Completely deserve their legendary status

Tattorack, do games w What games are just objective masterpieces?
@Tattorack@lemmy.world avatar

I’d say games that have set the standard for their genre, and have not been surpassed, would be the only ones that count.

  • Half Life 1 and then again with 2
  • Half Life Alyx
  • Age of Empires II
  • Baldur’s Gate 3
  • Warframe
  • Ratchet and Clank: Going Commando
  • Knights of the Old Republic
  • Fallout: New Vegas
  • Crash Bandicoot: Warped
  • Mario Kart 8 Deluxe
  • The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild, and then again with Tears of the Kingdom
  • Elden Ring
  • Hollow Knight
  • Dirt Rally
  • The World Ends With You (the original NDS version)
celeste, do games w Day 316 of posting a Daily Screenshot from the games l've been playing
@celeste@kbin.earth avatar

Always wanted to play this one, but never enough to buy a console.

MyNameIsAtticus,
@MyNameIsAtticus@lemmy.world avatar

I’d suggest Xenia, but with the problems i’ve been having i’m not sure how viable that is, especially if you don’t have a high spec computer

celeste,
@celeste@kbin.earth avatar

With most games, I don't mind just watching a playthrough, but this is one I'd actually want to play. Maybe in a few more years the emulator will have fewer bugs or I'll get a cheap 360 (or a new computer ). I'd forgotten how disappointed I was back then I couldn't play it on pc!

BastingChemina, do games w What games are just objective masterpieces?

Journey

There is not a single word in the game, barely any control but the game take you through an emotional story.

It’s multiplayer in a sense that you might meet another player, they can help you, you can help them or just continue on your path and despite not having any words it just fell like a genuine, pure connection with someone.

And the music is amazing.

dual_sport_dork,
@dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world avatar

Journey is indeed absolutely fantastic. It finally got a PC port a while ago after languishing on the PS3 for quite some years, and its hardware requirements are probably low enough in the modern era that practically anybody should be able to experience it.

My only gripe is that online randos seem not to understand the meditation achievement, and get antsy when you try to entice them to sit there with you until the achievement pops. And since you can’t type at them you can’t communicate to them what’s going on.

I got the trophy on PS3 back in the day but I haven’t successfully wrangled anybody into helping me get the Steam achievement for that yet…

Dremor,
@Dremor@lemmy.world avatar

Journey is an Art masterpiece, but one that you need to already appreciate Art to enjoy.
I got friends to try it, some of them enjoyed the experience, others found it boring as hell.

technomad, do games w Screenshot and review-ish rambling about my current game! Lies of P

That’s awesome, thanks for sharing!

I’ll be honest, I couldn’t get into it much myself for some reason but I know that it’s pretty well regarded anyway. Keep us updated, if you’d like.

Blisterexe,

Thank you! I’ll probably do a real review once I finish the game.

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