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ampersandrew, do games w After a lengthy legal battle and billion-dollar loss, 'Fortnite' is back on iOS
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

Yes, I know, Fortnite bad, but this is a big deal. The way we got here is often embarrassing, but this is a major step toward tearing down walled garden ecosystems.

Lost_My_Mind,

I mean…do we want to tear it down?

Apple is apple. They don’t make false claims about how walled off they are.

Android is android. And for people who want to strip out all the google stuff, you can. And you can use F-Droid exclusively.

But look at the typical apple user. Do you think they’re going to be happy without the apple experience?

Some things are for you, other things are NOT for you. Letting both exist is an option.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

Yes, we want to tear it down. This is a company that was taking a revenue share of any purchase made on their device, whether or not they incurred a cost in facilitating it. It’s universally bad for consumers. It’s why game prices on consoles don’t have competition like they do on PC, and it’s responsible for consumers feeling lock-in to an ecosystem, feeling as though they can’t respond to a bad product by moving to the competitor.

Yermaw,

by moving to the competitor

That’s where I am with the Xbox. I’m pretty happy with it and don’t want to switch over, but the massive digital catalogue I’ve accrued would make me really hesitant if they start shitting it up.

CMLVI,
@CMLVI@lemmy.world avatar

It helps that it’s trending towards being a pre-built PC more and more, and I do think that will help in some regard. If the PC and Xbox versions are able to be the same, then dev costs go down, and you get a pretty solid idea of what a good lower-to-mid tier spec PC can do and optimize for that. It also would hopefully mean that more and more catalog becomes playable on PC, but who knows how far back that would go. Maybe Microsoft would make an emulator that you log-in to for access to 360-onward games? May be extreme wishful thinking there tho lol

Ulrich,
@Ulrich@feddit.org avatar

But look at the typical apple user. Do you think they’re going to be happy without the apple experience?

Oh my God, they’re going to have to make decisions for themselves!? The horror!

pogodem0n,

Don’t let “perfect” be the enemy of “good”

p03locke,
@p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Especially when Apple is the one who dictates what is “perfect”.

WhatsTheHoldup,

I mean…do we want to tear it down?

Pretty sure we do.

Some things are for you, other things are NOT for you. Letting both exist is an option.

So you agree it’s good Fortnite now exists on iOS? Apple users get more options?

hanrahan,
@hanrahan@slrpnk.net avatar

Apple is apple. They don’t make false claims about how walled off they are.

That’s doesn’t make it a good thing.

2xsaiko,
@2xsaiko@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

But look at the typical apple user. Do you think they’re going to be happy without the apple experience?

The Apple experience = locked down devices? If people (and Apple) stopped fearmongering about “security” or whatever, yeah they would, or at worst they wouldn’t care. I’d certainly welcome being able to publish apps on my terms, and being able to install what I want.

Some things are for you, other things are NOT for you. Letting both exist is an option.

That’s exactly the point. You don’t have to use the parts of a theoretical more open ecosystem if you don’t want to, you can keep using exclusively the official Apple stuff. But it creates more choice for the user if it exists.

9tr6gyp3, do games w After a lengthy legal battle and billion-dollar loss, 'Fortnite' is back on iOS

Nice! Now I can play an old game at 4fps and drain my 100% charged battery in 6 minutes!

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  • 9tr6gyp3,

    No it is not 😂

    Linearity, do games w After a lengthy legal battle and billion-dollar loss, 'Fortnite' is back on iOS

    With switch emulation possible via StikDebug and now this

    It’s just W after W against Apple and I’m here for it

    trolololol, do games w After a lengthy legal battle and billion-dollar loss, 'Fortnite' is back on iOS

    Isn’t this news like 4 months old or something?

    neon_nova,

    No, Epic just recently won the court case against Apple. The Epic submitted this game to the App Store after winning, but Apple didn’t approve or reject it.

    Epic then brought another court case against Apple for not approving their app and now, without going to court, the app is back on the App Store.

    Ulrich,
    @Ulrich@feddit.org avatar

    Its recurring news going back multiple years at this point. And probably into the future.

    w8ghT, do games w After a lengthy legal battle and billion-dollar loss, 'Fortnite' is back on iOS
    @w8ghT@lemy.nl avatar

    This CRASH is NOT a “Game”… It’s (Shopping). And the reasons why our beloved hobby is riddled with GREED.

    ILoveUnions,

    Fortnite is completely free to play friendly. There is no pay to win.

    Yermaw,

    Yeah as much as I dislike the business model of microtransactions in modern games, and fortnite is the most popular and blatant example, they’re also pretty much the gold standard in how it should be done.

    I’m pretty emotionally ambivalent towards it. I both dislike and respect it at the same time.

    w8ghT, (edited )
    @w8ghT@lemy.nl avatar

    Whats “Free” when the point of said (APP) is locked behind pay-walls!? Modern day “gaming” sucks, paying for content that was once earned through gameplay is NOT Rewarding nor Gaming, it’s essentially Online Shopping. Fortnite is a Freemium Application which utilizes (In app purchase mechanics/ psychology) to lure in ‘Payer$’. Particularly the Youth which are more impressionable.

    Why don’t you do some research on your beloved Applications:

    The psychology of in-app purchase… South Park: season 18 Episode 6 (Freemium isn’t Free)… HOW microtransactions ruined gaming… HOW Season Passes ruined gaming… HOW Battle Passes ruined gaming… HOW Live Services ruined gaming

    Battle passes are replacing loot boxes, but they’re not necessarily a better deal:

    pcgamer.com/battle-passes-are-replacing-loot-boxe…

    Our Hobby is COOKED over Greed & Ignorance.

    ILoveUnions,

    Skins are not the point of fortnite. What?

    If youth are spending too much money on fortnite, that’s their parent’s failure to control them,quite honestly.

    Battle passes are ass but fortnite’s system of finances is far more ethical than most games

    w8ghT,
    @w8ghT@lemy.nl avatar

    “Skins are not the point of fortnite” You’re absolutely right. The point of fortnite is to make (BILLIONS) a Season and 37 Seasons later @ 40 BILLION DOLLARS and counting gives these EVIL Companies no incentive to produce legitimate products.

    Gone are the days were Companies actually made (Good Honest Video Games). Now companies hire behavioralists/psychologists to manipulate kids and casuals alike into spending, Not Playing. Not only that Fortnite extorts their payer base as well, which lead to a Lawsuit by the FTC:

    (Epic had to pay more than half a billion dollars for criminal behaviour)

    ftc.gov/…/fortnite-video-game-maker-epic-games-pa…

    (privacy violations, dark patterns and unwanted charges, especially targeting kids and teens).

    So (Not So) Epic “Games” are not “epic” at all! And companies like this are a poor representation of what our Gaming Hobby use to be. These are no longer Video Games. They’re Applications designed to Rob & psychologically manipulate the unsuspecting youth/ casuals into a (ENDLESS Pit Of PROFIT). Don’t shoot the messenger all of this is well documented… Look it up!

    (Now You Can Buy In-Game DLC And Pay It Off Later with Affirm)

    www.gamespot.com/articles/…/1100-6532906/

    “Fortnite generates significant revenue each season, with estimates suggesting it can earn hundreds of millions of dollars monthly, contributing to over $20 billion in revenue for 2022 alone.”

    (Fornite double helix skin worth $10,314)

    Happy Shopping, Payer$!

    ILoveUnions,

    Ah, you’re a twitter user. I played fortnite plenty. I’m well aware of the extent at which you’re overplaying it.

    w8ghT, (edited )
    @w8ghT@lemy.nl avatar

    A twitter user? NOPE (don’t let the # fool you) I don’t participate in any centralized ‘Antisocial Media’ platforms, so WRONG Again. Just like you’re wrong for entertaining The Problem you’re NOT “well aware” of… The fact you’re actively ‘down voting’ my posts for exposing these Evil Money Hungry Companies for what they are speaks volumes!

    (Not “overplaying” a single app but the industry as a whole). Being the majority use the same Seasonal Psychological MictroTRASHaction formula.

    This is why Mainstream Gaming is 99.4% destroyed and the World is in a SYSTEMATICALLY current state of decay… Reasons Why: Acceptance. Sheeple Accepting/ Supporting / Trending abysmal nonsensical behavior.

    Example: NintenDONT and their pathetic draconian Switch 2! Are you a proud owner of one? If not do you deem it to be a great “Console” as you deem Paynite to be a great “game”?

    Impressed by it’s Bricking Abilities, $80 Games, Glitchy downgraded LCD Screen, Over Heating , Stick Drift, Battery Swelling, cheap internal storage module, Crash and Freezes, Poor Emulation, Wi-Fi lag… etc?

    Just as you’re impressed by Paynites felonious practices.

    hanrahan, do games w After a lengthy legal battle and billion-dollar loss, 'Fortnite' is back on iOS
    @hanrahan@slrpnk.net avatar

    This iai going to be as drawn out as the SCO thing isnt it

    Or maybe more like the Jarndyce v Jarndyce in Dicken’s Bleak House

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