phillaholic

@phillaholic@lemm.ee

Tech & Gaming

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phillaholic,

Need to add a good quality mouse and keyboard to your numbers at minimum. Consoles come with controllers.

Should also add a $99 Windows license too.

phillaholic, (edited )

Those are not in the same quality tier at all, at least include a wireless rechargeable mouse.

Consoles don’t have licensing issues with their OS. You can’t run every PC game issue free on steam OS or Linux.

phillaholic,

How is that a bad faith argument? The PS5 Controller is not entry level quality. It’s not my problem equivalent PC peripherals are expensive. My Razer Viper Wireless cost $150 and the build quality is just slightly worse than a Dual Sense. It’s built to be lighter weight so that’s understandable. But it’s twice the cost, and that doesn’t include a keyboard. I tried the G305 and didn’t care for the build quality personally. Equivalent wireless keyboards with the quality control of Sony are $80-$100 too. I’d probably cheap out on the keyboard before the mouse, but every keyboard I’ve used under $85 had Quality control issues from switches stop functioning to buggy software (Anne Pro II), and Wireless was terrible on all of them.

I’ve heard issues dealing with multiplayer and anti-cheat as recently as this summer, so it’s nice to see it’s better, but until games are officially supported with no third party patches or workarounds, I don’t count it.

PS5 is FreeBSD based, so yes it’s Unix-like. But that doesn’t mean anything. MacOS is also Unix-Like and it’s terrible for gaming. It all comes down to support. At the end of the day I don’t want to have to deal with drivers, or configurations to play a game. I want to press a button, and start gaming. For me personally Consoles are going to win that war 95% of the time. But I’m dumb. I spent almost 3 times the cost of a PS5 on a Graphics card last year for some reason.

phillaholic,

I can steal a PlayStation 5 too if theft is part of the discussion. Games too.

phillaholic,

Do you have a better source than www.protondb.com

I wouldn’t consider that excellent.

phillaholic,

You said no one pays for Windows. Windows cost $99. Ergo…

phillaholic,
phillaholic,

So it’s comes out the same as the Viper Wireless you mentioned.

No, it comes with the console. So to be fair, just subtract $70 from the cost of the PS5 = $330 for the Digital Version

How the fuck can you compare build qualities between a controller and a mouse

Easy, the Plastic and Switches on the Razer feel cheaper / more brittle. There is more flex to it when squeezed. The charging dock connectors are less reliable. To be fair, the mouse did come with a dock with my model, I think it may be a bit cheaper without it.

you can easily get a good quality mouse with bells and whistles in the $60-$80 space.

You absolutely can, but you didn’t include anything originally and that’s why I made a point of bringing it up.

you’re also deliberately shopping in the $40 range for stuff like the Anne Pro II Keyboard

I paid $90 for in in late 2019. Assuming that’s not a counterfeit listing (Official site lists it for $90 with $10 off but OOO). The macros and software customization is incredible… when it works. Bluetooth was worthless, I had repeated key presses from time to time, and the config kept getting erased randomly when I would unplug it.

Anti-cheat has also been on consoles for decades now

I meant anti-cheat preventing the game from working. I stopped playing competitive a long time ago.

Linux has gotten some really good support though.

Subjective I guess. ProtonDB still lists a lot of games with issues. Not a lot are natively supported by the devs.

You made it a point to talk about the price of the computer versus a console, not the ease of use of it.

Yea I did, and the Ease of use is tied to the cost through the Windows license or lack there of. In all of these comparisons the PC side neglects to include the cost of Keyboards, Mice, and Windows.

Because you deliberately chose to spend that much on a GPU that outperforms a PS5 in graphical power? I bought a $400 GPU that slightly beats the PS5 out a couple of years back, so that’s moot.

That’s the entire cost of a PS5, and a few years back an equivalent SSD was $200.

cherry picking

That’s basically my original point. You can’t leave out a mouse and keyboard.

phillaholic,

Those are grey market keys. It’ll work, but you’re paying someone for a key that’s not legal for you to use.

phillaholic,

Well I google words I don’t know when I come across them.

phillaholic,

I’ve used remote play to play a casual / non-story game while watching Sports or some other background noise show on my TV more times than I can count. This is perfect for me.

phillaholic,

Microsoft is terrible at Gaming. I fear how everyone seems to be ok with them buying companies up and putting games on GamePass. It’s not going to end well. It’s not even going well if you really take notice.

phillaholic,

What games have Sony bought exclusively too? I’ve seen them pay for development of several. Microsoft has taken away sequels from PlayStation in the past. That’s worse imo.

phillaholic,

Microsoft only did that because their first party output over the last decade was embarrassingly bad.

phillaholic,

IDK, the gaming market is bigger sure, but so are the alternatives to PlayStation. Mobile is huge.

phillaholic,

Making this all the more impressive with shortages relating to covid.

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