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mnemonicmonkeys, do games w Valve's new hardware will NOT be loss leaders

I agree we don’t know if they’re loss leaders yet.

Please actually read the body of the post. Valve has already said in an interview that they won’t be loss leaders

mnemonicmonkeys, do games w Valve's new hardware will NOT be loss leaders

Regardless of the price (and whether or not I even buy one), I think it’s healthy to have another “big” player in the console market.

Tbh, I think it’d be healthier if the console market finally died and Playstation and Nintendo migrate to PC. Closed off ecosystems are anti-consumer

mnemonicmonkeys, (edited ) do games w Valve announces three new products: the Steam Frame, Steam Machine and Steam Controller

This is the second desktop PC they’ve released, no?

No. They have never designed a desktop before. The original Steam Machine was mainly a branding program for system integrators coupled with the release of the original Steam OS.

rather than reviving a brand that already failed once

Or do what they’re already doing and just call it something else.

But there’s one major thing you’re missing/ignoring: a big reason why the Steam Deck was a hit is because it has good price/performance. EGPU’s are the antithesis of that. They don’t scale well, and they add extra hardware and complexity, driving up price and limiting performance.

mnemonicmonkeys, do games w Valve announces three new products: the Steam Frame, Steam Machine and Steam Controller

No long campaigns in VR.

I recently watched a video where some dude had the VR treadmill and used it for Skyrim VR 2hrs per day for months

mnemonicmonkeys, do games w Valve announces three new products: the Steam Frame, Steam Machine and Steam Controller

Though I wonder if making a docked Deck be on equal footing with the Machine would have been a better use of R&D.

No, it would not. Buulding a Steam Deck that’s 6x more powerful (the claimed comparison for the Steam Machine) is NOT possible with today’s technology. For anyone.

The Steam Deck has to be hand portable and get somewhat decent battery life. That leaves little little space for a cooling solution. You cannot beat thermodynamics.

mnemonicmonkeys, do games w Valve announces three new products: the Steam Frame, Steam Machine and Steam Controller

You can see that each face is about the size an adult male’s hand, so it’s about 6" per edge

mnemonicmonkeys, do games w Microsoft's ambitious new Xbox: Your entire Xbox console library, the full power of Windows PC gaming, and no multiplayer paywall

I.e. Gamepass

mnemonicmonkeys, do games w Microsoft's ambitious new Xbox: Your entire Xbox console library, the full power of Windows PC gaming, and no multiplayer paywall

Hosting servers isn’t free.

And it’s game devs that pay for the multiplayer server upkeep, not the storefronts.

And I highly doubt that any money spent on XBox Live or PSN subscriptions was ever sent their way.

This is just a flimsy defense for greed

mnemonicmonkeys, do games w Microsoft's ambitious new Xbox: Your entire Xbox console library, the full power of Windows PC gaming, and no multiplayer paywall

And when you quicksave in games, you’ll need to wait 5 minutes for OneDrive to connect to Windows servers to sync up the save before you can continue playing

mnemonicmonkeys, do games w My AYN Thor

The original DS released almost 21 years ago. Because of that, the patent is now in the public domain, hence why products like this can be sold now

mnemonicmonkeys, do games w Ex PlayStation exec says Sony can't keep "increasing the graphics power" with new consoles after tech plateau, but PS5 has already "made almost every game a better game"

TBF, the dude has made millions off the game, and he doesn’t make the updates paid dlc. He just keeps adding to SDV because he loves it

mnemonicmonkeys, do games w The Shady Acquisition of EA Games

This is huge Bro energy with little understanding of AI and they are fully on the hype train.

Aparently one of the companies that made the purchase is owned by Jared Kushner. You’re probably spot on with that assessment

mnemonicmonkeys, do games w I finally decided to go full piracy against big companies

The hell does “piracy against big companies” even mean?

Paying for indies while pirating AAA isn’t that hard of a concept to wrap your head around. Sounds more like a “you” problem

mnemonicmonkeys, do games w I finally decided to go full piracy against big companies

I’m planning on yo-ho’ing CP2077, but no way an I paying even if I enjoy it. CDPR has fucked me over enough with The Witcher trilogy that they owe me a free game to make up for the time and money wasted.

After that, I might be willing to give them money again for something else, but I’m not paying for Cyberpunk

mnemonicmonkeys, do games w I finally decided to go full piracy against big companies

Supergiant Games took a payout to make Hades a times exclusive for EGS. They still have some anti-consumer practices, even if you personally don’t think it’s as bad.

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