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ampersandrew, do games w V Rising has launched out of Early Access!
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No, they don’t automatically make a game better, but if I’m choosing between two games that are similar in themes or mechanics, I’m leaning toward the one with voice acting and better presentation. That’s worth extra money to me. It’s far easier to retain story elements when they’re acted out. Production value is still value. Not only did I get a killer RPG for $60 in Baldur’s Gate 3, but I also got some killer performances to help sell it. That extra production value is worth extra money. I could play the previous two Baldur’s Gates for pennies on the dollar, and I did, but I would certainly say I got more value out of the game that costs more. In V Rising’s case, I know of no other action RPG/loot games that have been combined with survival games in this way, playing with independent movement and aiming instead of mouse pointers, so that’s worth the money to see. I think we’re done here, but your sense of value is just very strange.

ampersandrew, (edited ) do games w V Rising has launched out of Early Access!
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Again, “more” is often to the detriment to the value of the game, because adding hours is easy. I’m saying that, on a AAA level, games were worth more to me when they were shorter. We’re currently paying less for more. But at below AAA levels, I’m often served extremely well for $35.

ampersandrew, do games w V Rising has launched out of Early Access!
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Video games are afraid to be only a couple hours because they are afraid of charging less than $10

I would love to live in a world where we get FPS campaigns that are about 8 hours long, are fulfilling, and cost $60. That used to be the norm, and we were happy with that. A Let’s Play is not a substitute.

So if you wanted to get what you’re looking for in this case, Fallout 1 and 2 are $10 each, or you can get a bundle of 1/2 and Brotherhood of Steel for $20 (more like brotherhood of steal amirite).

That assumes I don’t care about things like better resolutions and frame rates, voice acting, modern considerations for how people actually interact with games, etc. I’ve also played Fallout 1 already.

ampersandrew, do games w V Rising has launched out of Early Access!
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Put the game into turn based mode before you walk away.

ampersandrew, do games w V Rising has launched out of Early Access!
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Video games are often afraid to be only a couple of hours these days, often to their detriment, but if you multiplied a movie’s runtime by 2-3x for some extra production value in your game, you end up at that $35 price point easily for a game that’s 5-10 hours long. Even for a direct comparison to Atom RPG, I’d rather pay 2-3x as much for a Wasteland game to get what I’m looking for, and Wasteland games aren’t exactly short. Neither is V Rising.

ampersandrew, do games w V Rising has launched out of Early Access!
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The value that I get out of games isn’t measured only in hours, especially since it’s easy to inflate a game’s length.

ampersandrew, do games w V Rising has launched out of Early Access!
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I’m sorry that you don’t enjoy video games enough to pay $30 for most of the good ones, but I hope one day you can sit down with a calculator and realize why it must be that way.

ampersandrew, do games w Xbox president: Studio closures will ensure 'business is healthy for the long term'
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After the fight they had to put up for Activision, it will likely be a while.

ampersandrew, do games w V Rising has launched out of Early Access!
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Let’s say that including benefits, a developer’s salary is about $100k. Maybe a small team of 8 people worked on a game like The Thaumaturge for 3 years. Before you even factor in contract work like voice acting, that would put the development budget at $2.4M. If the game cost $20, they’d have to sell about 120k copies to break even on that investment, which is far from guaranteed. By pricing the game at $35, their break even point is nearly half of that. This is a moderately budgeted game, not a AAA game with microtransactions.

Even an experienced team like Mimimi games, who made smart development choices by iterating on what they built before to keep costs down, releasing critical successes several times in a row, ended up closing down because the money coming in was too tight. Their games ranged from $30-$50 and had every sale, bundle, giveaway, and promotional opportunity you could think of.

ampersandrew, do games w V Rising has launched out of Early Access!
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Fortunately there are enough people who value them more than you, because most games, even moderately budgeted ones, wouldn’t be able to sustain themselves at that price.

ampersandrew, do games w V Rising has launched out of Early Access!
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It peaked today at just shy of 100k concurrent players following its successful early access period, with about 70k reviews, both of which are indicators that it’s selling extremely well, as well as taking the #4 spot on the top sellers list on Steam.

ampersandrew, do games w Perfect Dark Reboot Is Allegedly In Bad Shape
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Not exactly, but I have found a taste for loot games lately, so maybe someday I’ll get around to that one. It still wouldn’t scratch the same itch though.

ampersandrew, do games w V Rising has launched out of Early Access!
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This game and the two you mentioned require what I would consider to be a very liberal definition of “indie”.

ampersandrew, do games w V Rising has launched out of Early Access!
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$35 is a deal breaker? Your financial situation is your financial situation, but compared to the rest of the industry, this is cheap.

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